Tom Herman Fired as UT Football Coach

24 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

Did he, tho? We don’t know, and I doubt we ever will.

Strong was named as “the other man” in a divorce trial between Louisville boosters. He then slept in another room for months after having to disclose that to his wife and give a deposition. Some of that can be looked up, obviously the rest I’m passing on from folks who worked with him daily. I’m not saying he’s a bad guy, just pointing out that some of the facts around the extramarital affair were public. 

I’m in the camp that doesn’t give a shit if the HC is a nice guy or a “good man”.  Give me wins on the field and don’t embarrass the program. Otherwise, go home and play with your kids. Charlie Strong’s incompetence made UT fan life miserable, and I don’t know the guy, so fuck him but I’m not wishing for bad things to happen to him that aren’t football-related. I will laugh my ass off when bad football shit happens to that dumbass though.

Tom Herman went out of his way to hurt people and lord power over them at Texas. He hired and held onto Casey fucking Horny. He sucked generally. I actually do cheer against that guy beyond the game, as unapologetically petty as that may be. 

That all said, if we’re trapped in college football hell and the devil tells us we have to live through four more years of one of these guys as HC, who are you taking? I’m taking Tom Herman on a bullet, personally. 

edit: answered above

Edited September 29, 2021 by CurlyDumps

I’m aware of the public facts. But given that the case was settled, we don’t really know what the truth was, which was my only point. I’m not making any sort of claim either way.

54 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Strong was named as “the other man” in a divorce trial between Louisville boosters. He then slept in another room for months after having to disclose that to his wife and give a deposition. Some of that can be looked up, obviously the rest I’m passing on from folks who worked with him daily. I’m not saying he’s a bad guy, just pointing out that some of the facts around the extramarital affair were public. 

I’m in the camp that doesn’t give a shit if the HC is a nice guy or a “good man”.  Give me wins on the field and don’t embarrass the program. Otherwise, go home and play with your kids. Charlie Strong’s incompetence made UT fan life miserable, and I don’t know the guy, so fuck him but I’m not wishing for bad things to happen to him that aren’t football-related. I will laugh my ass off when bad football shit happens to that dumbass though.

Tom Herman went out of his way to hurt people and lord power over them at Texas. He hired and held onto Casey fucking Horny. He sucked generally. I actually do cheer against that guy beyond the game, as unapologetically petty as that may be. 

That all said, if we’re trapped in college football hell and the devil tells us we have to live through four more years of one of these guys as HC, who are you taking? I’m taking Tom Herman on a bullet, personally. 

2 hours ago, formermav43 said:

Did he, tho? We don’t know, and I doubt we ever will.

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3 hours ago, formermav43 said:

Did he, tho? We don’t know, and I doubt we ever will.

Dang, where was Case with his camera when we needed him?

What did I miss? Tom fucked Charlie? Charlie's friend? Been on a project so cannot keep up. 

On 9/28/2021 at 11:22 AM, 927 E. 41st said:

I'm 10/10 glad that Tom is gone, I hated the stubbornness, arrogance and immaturity he demonstrated multiple times during his tenure. 

However, I was happy when he got here and was pretty sure just about anyone could do a better job of pointing us in the right direction than Charlie. He did leave us in better shape than Charlie. That and having an A.D. and President pulling together has me hopeful/ optimistic.

I don't hold any ill will toward Charlie or Tom, but I'm overjoyed that they are gone. 

Sounds like a healthy attitude.  Clearly some people can't manage to move on.  Jfc.

Just have one question, why are we still talking about this arrogant, narcissistic, piece of s*** loser when he's gone? I would just prefer to forget he ever existed.

5 hours ago, Fletch said:

 

Bill Burr is fucking awesome. His show F is for Family on Netflix is just...amazing. 

Just bumping this to summarize the page 1 and 2 reactions to Sark being hired.  They were . . . spot on.

On 1/2/2021 at 10:45 AM, mdmost said:

I'm stunned, I'm pissed. It's Sark. 

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:46 AM, Foosters said:

Lol wut

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:46 AM, HornOnTheBayou said:

No, no, no. This better be some sick, cruel joke.

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:47 AM, Effyourcouch said:

This is very confusing news. I’m torn, Tom is gone but Sark is in. 

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:48 AM, Spider2YBanana said:

Fuck. Jesus Christ. Why? What a fucking disaster this is going to be. 

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:49 AM, Auto Driller said:

Underwhelming for sure.

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:49 AM, Hunt Stevenson said:

Jesus what a terrible move.  I’d rather keep Herman.  

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:49 AM, capnamerca said:

And the desert wandering continues ... this dude might actually die on the sidelines.

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:49 AM, Vic Mackey said:

Lmao what a fucking joke. Might as well kept Herman if this is who we are replacing him with.

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:50 AM, FigurelliPwC said:

Should we start the Fire Sark thread yet?

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:51 AM, 4Pete said:

not a fan of the hire.  

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:51 AM, 6th Street said:

Worse than Herman

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:53 AM, Scheiss Meister said:

What in the chicken fucking hell?  I guess that CDC has taken leave of his senses.

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:53 AM, htownjd said:

Uhh what

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:54 AM, MonkeyDoughnut said:

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:56 AM, DanTheHorn said:

His best year was 9-4 at USC in 2014. I am not liking this hire at all.

 

On 1/2/2021 at 10:57 AM, DigglerontheHoof said:

We are fucked.

Holy shit, this will be a disaster.  JFC

 

On 1/2/2021 at 11:00 AM, The Ace of Aces said:

Herman probably has more upside than Sarkisian. This is a terrible hire imo. 

 

On 1/2/2021 at 11:03 AM, AUS-97HORN said:

I am stunned. I am pissed.  Its fucking Sarkisian....     how soon do we get drunk......

 

fuck me.  I wanted Herman gone as well, but this is NOT a good replacement.    this is a fucking SEC style replacement. Which isnt going to fucking help at all. 

 

On 1/2/2021 at 11:05 AM, Beau Vine said:

Seven Win Steve is not an upgrade.  If he does the same stuff he did at Washington, he will beat OU regularly, then regularly lose the next two games to Tech and K-State.

 

On 1/2/2021 at 11:06 AM, hornmpa96 said:

If it’s Sark, CDC need to go - He’s already failed at a high profile job

 

On 1/2/2021 at 11:06 AM, immamac said:

this sark news is fucking stupid sark isn't the guy.

 

We’re still paying Tom, right?  Draft him back into the game! 

Are you fuckers serious? That prick left Sark with one actual football player and a 80 JAGs. Jesus Christ, just when you think you've seen it all. Though I would like y'all to have seen Herman try to coach without a good-to-great QB. 

Yeah but how did Herman take these same guys and win 7 games last year? It wasn't just Sam. 

last year we finished 4th place in the Big 12. We had to make a change, but we probably picked the wrong guy.

Fuck Tom Herman

Yeah but how did Herman take these same guys and win 7 games last year? It wasn't just Sam. 

Sam pulled some rabbits out of the hat last year. The last two games featured teams decimated by covid as well.
We also had ossai, cosmi, more we depth, rb depth was similar, and upgrades and just about every position defensively.

Even then, today snowballed more than it should have. We weren’t gonna win this game either way, bad matchups all over

We aren’t gonna win the recruiting beauty contest, but these guys need to bring in whatever they fuck they think they need to field a competitive squad next year.

If they can’t find quality outside of the obvious world beaters, then we’ll be talking about the next hire in about 3 years

18 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Are you fuckers serious? That prick left Sark with one actual football player and a 80 JAGs. Jesus Christ, just when you think you've seen it all. Though I would like y'all to have seen Herman try to coach without a good-to-great QB. 

Lol

 

 

Sark has already been blown out more times at Texas in 8 games than Herman did in 4 seasons.

 

at some point the “it’s the players” argument is clearly bullshit.

17 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Yeah but how did Herman take these same guys and win 7 games last year? It wasn't just Sam. 

You’re right, it was helped by an NFL OL and rush end. We’re probably a 2 loss team with a LT, elite pass rusher and QB who can complete passes against actual competition.

3 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Yeah but how did Herman take these same guys and win 7 games last year? It wasn't just Sam. 

A) It wasn't the same guys. 

B) It was just Sam.

And I could pose you a question -- maybe he would have been able to win more than 7 games if he'd played Bijan a little more. 

As I said repeatedly long before we hired that prick, he had never won anything with his own recruits, his image as a great recruiter at UH was derived entirely from Ed Oliver's mama telling him he was gonna go play with his brother, and when he didn't have a healthy Greg Ward running the offense, he sucked ass. And also, that he revealed himself to be an asshole and a fraud and thin-skinned pussy to the Houston media on multiple occasions, but they just kind of shrugged it off because they don't like pissing off dumb UH fans and nobody else gives a shit about the program. The only time the city collectively cared about anything UH has ever done athletically was the Phi Slama Jama era, and even those teams didn't sell out Hofheinz regularly. 

Longing for Herman is as dumb as those few dudes on here who long to bring back Mack. They remind me of those lone Japanese soldiers they found on remote islands in the 1970s who still thought the war was on. 

Firing Sark is not the answer. Not this year or next or even the year after that, barring the elephant in the room, personality wise, and you know, I don't think you could fire him if he volunteered to go to treatment first, unless there is something in his contract specifying something like "if you eat one rum ball at an Xmas party, that is cause for termination with cause."

At some point we need to accept that we will have to settle on a coach who will bring this program back to Holiday Bowl status, and that might be when you make a move. 

Meanwhile, we've pissed away two chances to hire Jeff Traylor. One I admit was not realistic, but it would been a very bold move to fire Charlie and everyone off his staff and offer Traylor then. Yes, pie in the sky, but isn't it true that we are supposed to be Texas, where what happens changes the world? That move would have challenged the entire paradigm of head coaching hires, but more importantly, would have brought a level of continuity to the locker room, and still more importantly, continued the positive steps Strong was bringing to our talent evaluation and recruiting. 
 

And then we had another chance this year, but evidently being a mediocre head coach at multiple stops with a widely publicized risk factor personality-wise, and a quick turn as Saban right hand man, are better credentials than being the architect of an unlikely Texas HS dynasty who'd done nothing but prove himself in his brief career in the college ranks. 

And now too many of our arrogant fans are comforting themselves with the thought that he will settle for some school like Tech, TCU, or SMU. He'll just wait for us to come calling, these people seem to think. Um, no. I would not be surprised if he doesn't end up at LSU (if they don't snatch Jimbo) or A&M (if they do.) And then we will be even more proper fucked than we are now. 

 

20 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Fuck Tom Herman

Correct answer. The hire after, that was wrong.

5 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Lol

 

 

Sark has already been blown out more times at Texas in 8 games than Herman did in 4 seasons.

 

at some point the “it’s the players” argument is clearly bullshit.

Um, it's hard to win when your players suck. That is not even football 101. That is some remedial-ass shit right there. 

26 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Are you fuckers serious? That prick left Sark with one actual football player and a 80 JAGs. Jesus Christ, just when you think you've seen it all. Though I would like y'all to have seen Herman try to coach without a good-to-great QB. 

Agree with this to a degree. This season would’ve looked a lot differently with Sam taking snaps. He had his faults but he’d have masked a lot of deficiencies and is clearly head and shoulders above either Card or Thompson

1 minute ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Um, it's hard to win when your players suck. That is not even football 101. That is some remedial-ass shit right there. 

Why have his players sucked at EVERY HC stop he’s ever had?

 

90 or so games worth of data. 
 

4 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

Agree with this to a degree. This season would’ve looked a lot differently with Sam taking snaps. He had his faults but he’d have masked a lot of deficiencies and is clearly head and shoulders above either Card or Thompson

Mainly, he was the Samdozer.  Unafraid to run, on- or off-schedule, and pretty fucking good at it.  Neither Card nor Thompson have that ability or desire.

Passing-wise, he's kind of similar to Thompson, but seems to be a bit smarter about it with less fucked up mechanics to go with his middling arm.

When your OL sucks balls, having a QB threat is a third dimension to the offense that we currently completely lack.  We have about 1.5 dimensions:  Bijan/Roschon and Worthy.

Edited November 7, 2021 by TwiceHorn

Fuck Tom Herman, but I think he's probably a better HC than Squatty Sark. Who knows with recruiting, as we'll either see an exodus or they'll hang on. I think that kid from Alabama (Finkley) will stay. He seems to go to the beat of his own drum, much like Bijan. 

8 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

Agree with this to a degree. This season would’ve looked a lot differently with Sam taking snaps. He had his faults but he’d have masked a lot of deficiencies and is clearly head and shoulders above either Card or Thompson

With this line I don't know if he'd be able to even get out of the pocket and tuck and run. 

And this is not the worst OL we've had. That would be the one Mack left Charlie that ended up with Marcus Wilkins a starting tackle. 

Should have kept Tom around to coach the second half and let Sark coach the first.  What's that stat....Sark 0 and like 900 when losing at halftime or something?

I don’t know about you guys but I could not take another year of Herman.  His teams )except a small part of one year) were just excruciating to watch.   Let’s see if Sark can do anything in year 2 with a real QB and a DC who’s not a meathead.  Gotta get some linemen though. 

The weirdest thing is that first-half OU has been about as good as  UT team has looked in forever.  Herman's teams never looked that good, even for a half.

And the dookystomping of Rice was something Herman could never pull off against the weak sisters on our schedule.  

The Arkansas game didn't seem to break us, but OU did.  Or maybe it was a progressive destruction from OU to OSU to Baylor to ISU.  At least their fragile psyches got some boost from Rice, TTU and surviving TCU after Arkansas, but they couldn't handle two and then three losses in a row.

But, if you insist on talking about what last year's team did, you'd have to admit that the OU, OSU and ISU games were a crapshoot last year (and two losses and an OT win) and would have been this year under Herman, assuming the same trajectory.

I assume that this would be an even bigger shitshow with Herman wearing his own "talent."  Maybe better on D, because PK seems to be a disaster.

It's so fucking bizarre. 

 

Edited November 7, 2021 by TwiceHorn

12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The weirdest thing is that first-half OU has been about as good as  UT team has looked in forever.  Herman's teams never looked that good, even for a half.

And the dookystomping of Rice was something Herman could never pull off against the weak sisters on our schedule.  

The Arkansas game didn't seem to break us, but OU did.  Or maybe it was a progressive destruction from OU to OSU to Baylor to ISU.  At least their fragile psyches got some boost from Rice, TTU and surviving TCU after Arkansas, but they couldn't handle two and then three losses in a row.

But, if you insist on talking about what last year's team did, you'd have to admit that the OU, OSU and ISU games were a crapshoot last year (and two losses and an OT win) and would have been this year under Herman, assuming the same trajectory.

I assume that this would be an even bigger shitshow with Herman wearing his own "talent."  Maybe better on D, because PK seems to be a disaster.

It's so fucking bizarre. 

 

the win over Georgia in the Sugar was pretty dominant, the final score not being indicative. 

UT doesn't play well on the road, at night. It's been that way for a long time. 

1 hour ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Um, it's hard to win when your players suck. That is not even football 101. That is some remedial-ass shit right there. 

Dude we have a lot of the same players as last year and all of them except Bijan look worse under Sark. Casey Thompson's straight up looked BETTER than Sam when he came in during the second half of the bowl game last season. Now he looks like trash and I'm not even sure we make a bowl game this season. We fired Herman after a 3 loss season because we thought we should be blowing everyone out.  Now that Herman's gone, it's unfair to expect the new guy to not GET blown out every other game while having basically the same roster. Without COVID canceling cupcakes Herman would have gone 10-3 last year.

It was the same thing with Strong. Strong gets here and all a sudden the cupboard is empty and seemingly unfillable. No guys getting drafted, team getting blown out regularly etc.. Then Herman comes along and WOW we have a few standouts, and the team isnt getting run off the field anymore. We weren't lighting the world on fire but we could compete. Herman leaves and oh no! We suck again!

Edited November 7, 2021 by Gigglebush

2 minutes ago, Gigglebush said:

Dude we have a lot of the same players as last year and all of them except Bijan look worse under Sark. Casey Thompson's straight up looked BETTER than Sam when he came in during the second half of the bowl game last season. Now he looks like trash and I'm not even sure we make a bowl game this season. We fired Herman after a 3 loss season because we thought we should be blowing everyone out.  Now that Herman's gone, it's unfair to expect the new guy to not GET blown out every other game while having basically the same roster. Without COVID canceling cupcakes Herman would have gone 10-3 last year.

It was the same thing with Strong. Strong gets here and all a sudden the cupboard is empty and seemingly unfillable. No guys getting drafted, team getting blown out regularly etc.. Then Herman comes along and WOW we have a few standouts, and the team isnt getting run off the field anymore. We weren't lighting the world on fire but we could compete. Herman leaves and oh no! We suck again!

This entire post is basically garbage. Casey looked great against Tech and the first half of OU, but he's been figured out. Much like Jerrod Heard was figured out. It was also the Bijan show in that game. If we could run with any consistency, the O would work better.

Herman was fired because he lost the team, recruiting was going in the tank, and he had plenty of off the field circumstances to deal with. He was also effectively "blown out" a few times in his first year, third year, and last year. Go back and look how many times a TD in the last minute or so made a loss look more respectable than the game actually was. All this with NFL players at multiple positions.

Herman's best players were Strong's guys for the most part. He brought in Ossai and Cosmi. He also gets credit for Gary Johnson, Calvin Anderson, Parker Braun, and that RB from Cal. 

The best player Herman left Sark was Bijan. Who else is worth a shit? Collins has a chance to be good, Rojo is a solid depth guy. Whole lotta meh from shitty recruiting classes. That's a big reason why we suck again.

The coaches we hired misjudged and likely overestimated our talent, if CTJ's info was real, then Sark was already saying this team was no bueno behind the scenes. 

Tl:dr - Herman sucks, Sark & Co. likely suck too, but maybe they can be better than Herman's drinking buddies if they can churn this roster.

23 minutes ago, Gigglebush said:

Dude we have a lot of the same players as last year and all of them except Bijan look worse under Sark. Casey Thompson's straight up looked BETTER than Sam when he came in during the second half of the bowl game last season. Now he looks like trash and I'm not even sure we make a bowl game this season. We fired Herman after a 3 loss season because we thought we should be blowing everyone out.  Now that Herman's gone, it's unfair to expect the new guy to not GET blown out every other game while having basically the same roster. Without COVID canceling cupcakes Herman would have gone 10-3 last year.

It was the same thing with Strong. Strong gets here and all a sudden the cupboard is empty and seemingly unfillable. No guys getting drafted, team getting blown out regularly etc.. Then Herman comes along and WOW we have a few standouts, and the team isnt getting run off the field anymore. We weren't lighting the world on fire but we could compete. Herman leaves and oh no! We suck again!

On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being Charlie Strong and 10 being Nick Saban, Herman was about a 5. Sark is somewhere between a 2 and a 3.

1 hour ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Fuck Tom Herman, but I think he's probably a better HC than Squatty Sark. Who knows with recruiting, as we'll either see an exodus or they'll hang on. I think that kid from Alabama (Finkley) will stay. He seems to go to the beat of his own drum, much like Bijan. 

Yet, that fuck managed to lose to Maryland twice and wasted 8 games last year before coming to the realization that Bijan Robinson is really good at football.

Now imagine Herman with the current offensive personnel minus Worthy.

13 minutes ago, Atticus said:

This entire post is basically garbage. Casey looked great against Tech and the first half of OU, but he's been figured out. Much like Jerrod Heard was figured out. It was also the Bijan show in that game. If we could run with any consistency, the O would work better.

Herman was fired because he lost the team, recruiting was going in the tank, and he had plenty of off the field circumstances to deal with. He was also effectively "blown out" a few times in his first year, third year, and last year. Go back and look how many times a TD in the last minute or so made a loss look more respectable than the game actually was. All this with NFL players at multiple positions.

Herman's best players were Strong's guys for the most part. He brought in Ossai and Cosmi. He also gets credit for Gary Johnson, Calvin Anderson, Parker Braun, and that RB from Cal. 

The best player Herman left Sark was Bijan. Who else is worth a shit? Collins has a chance to be good, Rojo is a solid depth guy. Whole lotta meh from shitty recruiting classes. That's a big reason why we suck again.

The coaches we hired misjudged and likely overestimated our talent, if CTJ's info was real, then Sark was already saying this team was no bueno behind the scenes. 

Tl:dr - Herman sucks, Sark & Co. likely suck too, but maybe they can be better than Herman's drinking buddies if they can churn this roster.

Yeah. I didn't want buy what Sarkisian was privately telling people either, but after 9 games it's more than apparent this team really does suck.

We have two all conference players in Bijan and Worthy. Any good defensive coordinator in this league is going to be able to exploit that fact especially when our QB play is in the bottom tier of the conference.

2 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Yet, that fuck managed to lose to Maryland twice and wasted 8 games last year before coming to the realization that Bijan Robinson is really good at football.

Now imagine Herman with the current offensive personnel minus Worthy.

Yeah, true. I wasn't a fan of either hire, but even more so with the Sark hire. I'm at the excuse making part since I still despise the Sark hire. It's looking exactly like I imagined  

7 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Yeah, true. I wasn't a fan of either hire, but even more so with the Sark hire. I'm at the excuse making part since I still despise the Sark hire. It's looking exactly like I imagined  

You don't like the results, but at least the offensive plan is sound. Worthy is an AA because the offense puts him position to succeed more times than not. Bijan was an early season Heisman candidate before the QB play took away any reason for DCs to not key on him. That's a marked improvement offensively from last year when Sam ran around and made plays. Even our 2nd tier WRs are finding the grass, just can't finish the execution from either the throw and catch aspects consistently.

Edited November 7, 2021 by HtownHorn

20 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Yeah. I didn't want buy what Sarkisian was privately telling people either, but after 9 games it's more than apparent this team really does suck.

We have two all conference players in Bijan and Worthy. Any good defensive coordinator in this league is going to be able to exploit that fact especially when our QB play is in the bottom tier of the conference.

I don't follow the recruiting threads that closely, but there were rumors that Sarkisian thought he was in deep shit with this roster?

On the one hand, I can see how it might be difficult to figure out that your roster sucks (not just compared to what you had at Alabama), but it also seems like a good football coach should be able to figure that out.

Also, with respect to the portal, just like a brand new coach probably doesn't want to come in and say "this team fucking sucks, we're going to lose a lot," he probably doesn't want to dismiss two dozen players from the roster to fill their spots from the portal, even if he knows that's what he needs to do to win this season.

Remember the uproar when Strong dismissed some less-than-solid citizens?

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

The weirdest thing is that first-half OU has been about as good as  UT team has looked in forever.  Herman's teams never looked that good, even for a half.

And the dookystomping of Rice was something Herman could never pull off against the weak sisters on our schedule.  

The Arkansas game didn't seem to break us, but OU did.  Or maybe it was a progressive destruction from OU to OSU to Baylor to ISU.  At least their fragile psyches got some boost from Rice, TTU and surviving TCU after Arkansas, but they couldn't handle two and then three losses in a row.

But, if you insist on talking about what last year's team did, you'd have to admit that the OU, OSU and ISU games were a crapshoot last year (and two losses and an OT win) and would have been this year under Herman, assuming the same trajectory.

I assume that this would be an even bigger shitshow with Herman wearing his own "talent."  Maybe better on D, because PK seems to be a disaster.

It's so fucking bizarre. 

 

The more I think about it, even if you assume Herman would have achieved roughly the same results with this roster this year (which is a highly suspect proposition), you're kidding yourself that he would have a better record right now.

As pointed out, he lost to ISU and OU last year, had OSU in overtime (thanks to Sam) and probably would have lost the TCU game, again, at least one of TCU and Baylor.  And, given his propensity for openers, probably would have lost ULaLa, too.

Odds are damned decent that Herman would be sitting on the same or a worse record this year, even "duplicating" last year's performances.  Factor in this dogshit roster, and it's probably 3-6.

And, it occurs to me that maybe this team learned it's tendency to let up and cave in the second half from Turtle Tom Herman himself.

 

Edited November 7, 2021 by TwiceHorn

Herman doesn't lose to Arkansas. Sark is pure ass gas and will not give the fans a break.

Sark needs to GTFO.

 

18 minutes ago, F250 said:

Herman doesn't lose to Arkansas. Sark is pure ass gas and will not give the fans a break.

Sark needs to GTFO.

 

Maryland 

15 minutes ago, F250 said:

Herman doesn't lose to Arkansas.

Show your work. What on earth makes you think this guy could take these scrubs into one of college football's most hostile environments -- I don't give a shit about capacity: you saw and heard that horde of screaming hillbillies --  and come out with a win?

 

6 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

Maryland 

5 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Show your work. What on earth makes you think this guy could take these scrubs into one of college football's most hostile environments -- I don't give a shit about capacity: you saw and heard that horde of screaming hillbillies --  and come out with a win?

 

Historically, Herman wins these type of games then loses to Big 12 bottom feeders. I think Casey starts under Herman.

4 hours ago, mdmost said:

Yeah but how did Herman take these same guys and win 7 games last year? It wasn't just Sam. 

Narrator: It was Sam

17 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Show your work. What on earth makes you think this guy could take these scrubs into one of college football's most hostile environments -- I don't give a shit about capacity: you saw and heard that horde of screaming hillbillies --  and come out with a win?

 

Herman definitely wouldnt have gotten run off the field by Arky. In 4 years Herman only lost by more than 2 touchdowns once and that was in his first year to a TCU team that finished top 10 in the AP poll. Sark has already had it happen to him twice to very mediocre teams.

I will say that Sark hasnt gotten to Charlie Strong levels yet. In year 1 alone Strong lost by more than 2 touchdowns 5 times.

Edited November 7, 2021 by Gigglebush

4 minutes ago, Gigglebush said:

Herman definitely wouldnt have gotten run off the field by Arky. In 4 years Herman only lost by more than 2 touchdowns once and that was to a top 10 team in year 1. Sark has already had it happen to him twice and it was to very mediocre teams. I will say that Sark hasnt gotten to Charlie Strong levels yet. In year 1 alone Strong lost by more than 2 touchdowns 5 times.

Still three games remaining including KU. If Sark loses to KU he should be immediately fired.

11 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Narrator: It was Sam

Sam and Ossai. This is what our defense looks like with no pass rush at all. 

We we are an average D last year with one of the best edge players in the country. I definitely overvalued what our D would be without Ossai but we don't have a single player on the edge that would start for any top 40 caliber team. 

1 hour ago, texasstrong12 said:

Sam and Ossai. This is what our defense looks like with no pass rush at all. 

We we are an average D last year with one of the best edge players in the country. I definitely overvalued what our D would be without Ossai but we don't have a single player on the edge that would start for any top 40 caliber team. 

After the bowl game Collins had, it looked like Herman had been hiding Ndamakung Suh on the bench...