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  • Enough bitching, enough sitting on the sidelines, CDC isn't doing fucking dick but we can! Introducing Surly Horns Burnt Ends NIL Program. This is how we make a difference, if we can get enough interest and hit the numbers that we forecasted, that is a huge step towards getting at least one position group taken care of (possibly two pending interest and people actually putting their money where their mouths are) with the hopes that others will follow with other less appreciated position groups. Bijan, Card, even guys like Jamison and Overshown won't have issues getting paid when the NIL is fully rolled out (hopefully fucking soon, looking at you @closetojumping)or when CDC gets his head pulled out of his ass (Doubtful, fucking moron).

    Next Steps, I gauge interest through this article and see what the financials actually look like (You won't be charged dick till this shit actually gets rolled out), we get a liaison in the TE room to help facilitate scheduling, we get this bitch through compliance (Don't think this should be an issue but....), then we start to roll it out to the TEs! All the profit is going directly to the TEs, and the website will be handling the money (No Ketch bullshit). We will mail everyone's Cups and stickers and shit once things have been rolling. We will need some help designing a logo (paging @TreatyOak). This is a great opportunity for us to have some fun with the NIL, get some kids some cash legally and above board, help improve TE recruiting and keep talented TEs on the team and out of the portal. If you have any suggestions, questions or grievances shoot me and @immamac a DM. This is how we help!

     

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    Burnt Ends- NIL Program.pptx

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    ClubWhatever

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    Who set the funding goal and how was it set?  It seems arbitrary.  

    Wulaw Horn

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    2 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

    Who set the funding goal and how was it set?  It seems arbitrary.  

    Looks like the goal is to get everyone $1,000 a month.  That's arbitrary in the same way that all round numbers are, I suppose, but that's everything in life.  


    Ha- I was going off what I thought I saw here. That's $15,500 a year or 1292 a month- you are right- that is random.  I think though the goal was to add the camp at about 4500 a player so $20k a year I guess?

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    RGBIII

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

    Who set the funding goal and how was it set?  It seems arbitrary.  

    It is arbitrary and I was very drunk. Seems like a good number as a baseline, I expect we will grow well past it

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    Hornlover

    Posted

    What about bringing back the SSS forum for subscribers above a certain dollar threshold?

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    immamac

    Posted

    27 minutes ago, RabidM said:

    What constitutes value though?  Look at the artwork deal for that Oregon defensive player.  Hypothetically, if we had a whale on the hook, couldn't just concoct something of nebulous value and charge whatever we want for it? 

    This isn't an NFT - this is a subscription that gives access to certain content and privileges. 

    The players are creating said content and are brand ambassadors. It all has to make sense for the IRS, the NCAA, the University and the players. 

    JesusSweatDuck

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

    It is arbitrary and I was very drunk. Seems like a good number as a baseline, I expect we will grow well past it

    The math on that PPT revealed you were drunk

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    Wulaw Horn

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    6 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

    It is arbitrary and I was very drunk. Seems like a good number as a baseline, I expect we will grow well past it

    Looks like the middle option is in the most danger of not getting to it's goal.  I think we ultimately sail past the $10 a month and the $50 a month.  

    immamac

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    7 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

    Looks like the goal is to get everyone $1,000 a month.  That's arbitrary in the same way that all round numbers are, I suppose, but that's everything in life.  


    Ha- I was going off what I thought I saw here. That's $15,500 a year or 1292 a month- you are right- that is random.  I think though the goal was to add the camp at about 4500 a player so $20k a year I guess?

     

    6 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

    It is arbitrary and I was very drunk. Seems like a good number as a baseline, I expect we will grow well past it

    Started arbitrary, needed to turn into a guaranteed minimum I was comfortable funding personally. 70k (10k each) seemed right when I looked at it. 

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    Wulaw Horn

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    1 minute ago, immamac said:

     

    Started arbitrary, needed to turn into a guaranteed minimum I was comfortable funding personally. 70k (10k each) seemed right when I looked at it. 

    That 70k minimum count the camp money or no?  

    RGBIII

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

    That 70k minimum count the camp money or no?  

    Nope, camp is a separate deal that will also have to get through compliance

    SydneyCarton

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    6 minutes ago, immamac said:

    As a web marketing guy, you need a clearer call to action, my man. Looks good, but give it "Join Now" or "Contribute Now" button. Clicking on images and getting a blown up image isn't intuitive when you're trying to capture momentum in the shopping process. 

    Looks good though.

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    Wulaw Horn

    Posted

    Just now, RGBIII said:

    Nope, camp is a separate deal that will also have to get through compliance

    I imagine that they don't all need to do it to be ok, right?  In other words if just one of them wanted to do it would they get $25k or would we just not do it?

    ClubWhatever

    Posted

    This is an interesting application of NiL.  All TEs get paid and, if the program continues in perpetuity, they are paid regardless of their specific name, image, or likeliness.  You can have no face and be named Shit Fuck or Joe Blow and be getting the money as long as you have TE by your name on roster, sign the forms, and go to the events.  Then you graduate and are replaced by the next unknown TE.  It seems like one step up from Big Red Motors.  And yes I know many other schools have position groups getting similar deals. 

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    Hiphopopotamos

    Posted

    Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

    I imagine that they don't all need to do it to be ok, right?  In other words if just one of them wanted to do it would they get $25k or would we just not do it?

    I don't know - but I'm guessing the majority of them would love to earn a few grand extra just for hanging out at a park and watching a bunch of overweight septuagenarians break a hip trying to relive their glory days.

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    JohnnyRage

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    1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    Id do 100/mo but depends on what further benefits could be added. 

    Sugar Babies coupon/voucher

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    JesusSweatDuck

    Posted

    Just some feedback on the flair (I know y'all have your hands full right now) but the image doesn't look great in dark mode.  There's still some white in the middle of the B for example. 

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    immamac

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    5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    As a web marketing guy, you need a clearer call to action, my man. Looks good, but give it "Join Now" or "Contribute Now" button. Clicking on images and getting a blown up image isn't intuitive when you're trying to capture momentum in the shopping process. 

    Looks good though.

    go incognito. On the right side there is a signup widget that talks about signing up that is only visible to lurkers/guests though.

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    SydneyCarton

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    1 minute ago, immamac said:

     

    go incognito. On the right side there is a signup widget that talks about signing up that is only visible to lurkers/guests though.

    That seems...needlessly complicated? Why would you make any funnel or silo smaller than necessary? Maximum eyeballs at all time. Maybe some regular posters who are cheap finally get worn down. Who knows. But I don't understand why you'd lessen eyeballs when it's giving money. 

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    immamac

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    6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    That seems...needlessly complicated? Why would you make any funnel or silo smaller than necessary? Maximum eyeballs at all time. Maybe some regular posters who are cheap finally get worn down. Who knows. But I don't understand why you'd lessen eyeballs when it's giving money. 

    What about now?

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    immamac

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    19 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

    This is an interesting application of NiL.  All TEs get paid and, if the program continues in perpetuity, they are paid regardless of their specific name, image, or likeliness.  You can have no face and be named Shit Fuck or Joe Blow and be getting the money as long as you have TE by your name on roster, sign the forms, and go to the events.  Then you graduate and are replaced by the next unknown TE.  It seems like one step up from Big Red Motors.  And yes I know many other schools have position groups getting similar deals. 

    DM Sent

    immamac

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    19 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

    Just some feedback on the flair (I know y'all have your hands full right now) but the image doesn't look great in dark mode.  There's still some white in the middle of the B for example. 

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    yeah I couldn't get it out, when I have more time I'll try to get to it. 

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    Hiphopopotamos

    Posted (edited)

    3 minutes ago, immamac said:

    https://www.burntendsnil.com

    Send this link to everyone you know

    Broken link...  looks like a security issue.  http worked for me - can anyone else confirm?

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    TKthunder2

    Posted

    3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

    Also, not sure what the deal is @immamac but I definitely signed up for a Burnt Ends membership, and I don't see muh bling or my burnt orange name, sir. 

    I thought I signed up too but not seeing my bling or it under my subscriptions I’ll check my account and if it didn’t go through I’ll try to sign up again tonight.

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    Tx74

    Posted

    3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    From my experience it processes within the hour.

    I'm an old guy and I'm in. I got the same message but it processed in a minute or two.

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    RollLeft

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    Lol, Surlyites to Imamac...

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    RollLeft

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    You want flare?

     

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    SydneyCarton

    Posted

    1 hour ago, immamac said:

    What about now?

    I gotta tell you man, I don't really want this to come across like me perpetually seeming to quibble. Have the subs up top is an improvement, but the call to action itself isn't straight intuitive. I'd consider a 2 page checkout with Join now, then radio buttons to select their level. But the point is you have something, and that can be blazed out to folks. 

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    Hornlover

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    I gotta tell you man, I don't really want this to come across like me perpetually seeming to quibble. Have the subs up top is an improvement, but the call to action itself isn't straight intuitive. I'd consider a 2 page checkout with Join now, then radio buttons to select their level. But the point is you have something, and that can be blazed out to folks. 

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    Also, sometimes the div surrounding the product buttons shrinks (see screenshot below), obscuring the products and making it hard to tell that you're supposed to click on them.

     

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    BurntOrange&White

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    9 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    I gotta tell you man, I don't really want this to come across like me perpetually seeming to quibble. Have the subs up top is an improvement, but the call to action itself isn't straight intuitive. I'd consider a 2 page checkout with Join now, then radio buttons to select their level. But the point is you have something, and that can be blazed out to folks. 

    Engineer out the stupid....make it boomer proof.

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    RGBIII

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    Engineer out the stupid....make it boomer proof.

    Page 1

    Short Mission Statement

    Tiers and what they receive

    GIANT BOOMER PROOF JOIN BUTTON

    Page 2

    Drop down menu selecting their tier

    Check out options- Paypal CC Stripe etc

    Page 3

    Confirmation Screen

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    Horn Dogg

    Posted

    13 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

    Page 1

    Short Mission Statement

    Tiers and what they receive

    GIANT BOOMER PROOF JOIN BUTTON

    Page 2

    Drop down menu selecting their tier

    Check out options- Paypal CC Stripe etc

    Page 3

    Confirmation Screen

    What about the titty pictures?

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    RGBIII

    Posted

    36 minutes ago, Horn Dogg said:

    What about the titty pictures?

    Thats the confirmation screen

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    Hiphopopotamos

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

    Thats the confirmation screen

    Is this a new feature - I fear I may have signed up too early.

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    BurntOrange&White

    Posted

    @RGBIIIjust saw your thread…..and a comment you made to someone.  So for this….someone can’t come in and just drop $20k and call it a day? They have to order 33.33 of the $600 1 year subs? 

    Horn Dogg

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    8 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

    Is this a new feature - I fear I may have signed up too early.

    I guess you have to go donate more so that you don’t miss anything.

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    RGBIII

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    @RGBIIIjust saw your thread…..and a comment you made to someone.  So for this….someone can’t come in and just drop $20k and call it a day? They have to order 33.33 of the $600 1 year subs? 

    Basically yes, it wouldnt pass compliance if we just let someone donate whatever without any additional tangible benefit but @immamac could clear that part up

    immamac

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    23 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    @RGBIIIjust saw your thread…..and a comment you made to someone.  So for this….someone can’t come in and just drop $20k and call it a day? They have to order 33.33 of the $600 1 year subs? 

    You would need to buy 33 and then you could buy 3 of the regular ones too if you felt like. 

    You would need to invite 32 friends to dinner though. lol

    Wulaw Horn

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    15 minutes ago, immamac said:

    You would need to buy 33 and then you could buy 3 of the regular ones too if you felt like. 

    You would need to invite 32 friends to dinner though. lol

    Invite v hunger games style contest for Surly poors... potayto/ potahto 

    immamac

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    16 hours ago, immamac said:

    Finished the day at:

    86/150 for 10/mo or 120/yr

    43/150 for 25/mo or 300/yr

    27/50 for 50/mo or 600/yr

    3285/mo - we are officially more than halfway there. 

    101/150 for 10/mo or 120/yr

    46/150 for 25/mo or 300/yr

    32/50 for 50/mo or 600/yr

    3760/mo

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    RGBIII

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    6 minutes ago, immamac said:

    101/150 for 10/mo or 120/yr

    46/150 for 25/mo or 300/yr

    32/50 for 50/mo or 600/yr

    3760/mo

    Nearly 3/4 of the way there

    RGBIII

    Posted

    Just now, Hiphopopotamos said:

    calculator.com

     

    I said nearly, had to cover myself. 3/4 is like 4200 right?

    jwtexan

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    12 minutes ago, immamac said:

    101/150 for 10/mo or 120/yr

    46/150 for 25/mo or 300/yr

    32/50 for 50/mo or 600/yr

    3760/mo

    102/150

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    JesusSweatDuck

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    11 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

    Nearly 3/4 of the way there

    Thing that's interesting is the "middle" option is usually the one that gets picked the most.  Instead it's very linear.  Need some more "flair" for $25/mo




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