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I've got some friends in LT who are pretty plugged in to the Wilson recruitment (not Longhorn94 bullshit) and here's what they are telling me: - Wilson still fully supports Meyer and OSU, he knew about the domestic violence and Meyer turning a blind eye to it before he committed. In fact, it was one of the main reasons he committed. He just fucking loves domestic violence. It's like in the NCAA football games how you can pick what pitch to give to a recruit, if you picked domestic violence, you would get Wilson's commit 100% of the time. Meyer knew this and really played up that angle. It's why he's one of the best in the game. - However, Herman is not going to just give up on Wilson. He's just biding his time until he drops his ace in the hole: Casey Horny. Herman knows if Wilson likes domestic violence, he's going to love the guy involved in a systemic program put in place at a university to cover up widespread, violent sexual assaults. Once the season is over, Herman is going to promote Horny to a coach like he did with Carrington last year. Horny's only job is going to be recruiting Wilson and Herman is confident that he can get him to flip. - One dark horse to watch in Wilson's recruitment: Michigan State.

/notsofastmyfriend

ok, this orange lunatic is unhinged today: fucking judicial watch, lulz. remember when they were reporting isis were coming over the mexico border? i remember. remember when shaggy posters cited judicial watch and the fucking express as fact? i remember. too funny. also, there's more! i mean, this one has already been posted, but he's on a fucking RECORDING saying he had no idea she was fired and did not want that to happen. also, his fixation with "firing dogs" continues to fascinate. of course, par for the course is using insulting imagery for a black woman, such as crazed, lowlife dog....yeah. this is following a day where kellyanne conway was cornered on television unable to name a senior member of the white house staff who was black. good job, good effort, donald. but wait, there's more! ANIMALS, but maybe some of them are good people. i dunno. but WAIT! there's still more! because he's definitely never watching tv and not fox and friends (despite quoting the show every morning on twitter. i mean seriously.) remember when donald said he would be working too hard to vacation and golf? i remember. BUT WAIT! there's still more! the patented fox and friends double dip this morning. anyways, gregg jarrett wrote this book, i guess: because that makes sense. AND YET THERE IS STILL MORE: peter strzok started the investigation? can anyone verify this? oh, right. no. he lies all the time. i forgot. okay, at this point, i'm out of things to type, and i'm just tugging on my eyebrows, laughing nervously. there's still one more: and he's still watching television. that's all he does. think about that. while we shlep into work to try and make what hay we can while the sun shines, this fucker is sitting in his pajamas, stuffing his face with some terrible food looking for self-validation on the fucking cable news channels. that's the leader of the free world. that's our president. goddammit.

Poor Urban. Urban the Sacrificial. Urban the loving subordinate employee. Urban the Victim. Right. Urban Meyer is under fire and in danger of losing his job in part because he's a fucking liar. More importantly, however, is the fact that he's under fire and in danger of losing his job because he's led a cover-up and enabled the continued abuse of a victim by a buddy and employee on his staff. He might actually keep his job if he's able to get away with all of the equivocating and obfuscating he and his camp have been a part of since the news broke, not in a dissimilar fashion the equivocating and obfuscating you've twisted yourself into knots performing over the past 3 pages of this thread. I'm going to go through and neg as many of your posts as I can. I want to be clear with the facts before you bend them in some other manner, though. I'm going to go and do that in the hopes that enough other people also do it and that it winds up leading to you being banned. It's not because I disagree with your "opinion". It's because it looks as though you're one of the many mouthbreathers who are choosing to do what's convenient and aligned with your personal needs and wants, rather than finding and living by the courage of your convictions. Rape apologists. Pedophilia apologists. Wife-beater apologists. You fucking people are all the same and you're all pathetic.

Wait, what? "getting an answer wrong in a press conference??!?!?" He fucking lied. He fucking lied solely in an attempt to hide the cesspool that his program has become under his watch. He not only lied, but he tried to discredit the reporter who was working on it.

Let that sink in for a bit.

I don't think about you at all.

200.6 lb after the gym/ mowing the lawn today. Officially have lost 40 pounds over 153 days. When it drops below 200 it might get dusty.

If this is true, then it blows away any notion that Meyer had any claim to ignorance or plausible deniability for said beatings. If they were involved in the counseling, then not only did he know this was a systemic issue well beyond just two police reports, (one which he claimed not to know of until recently) but it also means he had enough information to be fully prepared for his press conference and have a better answer than just lying right to the face of the entire Big 10 media room. You can't have it both ways, dude. Either he was had plausible deniability for his complete ignorance, or he believed in second chances and was actively working to rehabilitate Smith and chose to overlook his criminal behavior for the sake of forgiveness. Which makes the lies even more egregious. So which one is it, as you've argued both in this thread. By the way, your hinting that Meyer should keep his job because of the economic impact of many families and a region of the country several times in this thread is fucking disgusting and far beyond the pale of acceptance for any human being who considers themselves even remotely moral. Happy Valley and Waco see your point, however.

Meh. Garret Wilson seems like he sucks. As a person. Not as a football player. Tired of hearing from, and about, this kid. Let him go burn couches with that garbage person urban Meyer.

It's called a kuato.

How can Donald Trump "be president?" Free your mind, brah.

I know we are past the part of the thread where we talk about how we grew up Republican but I’m going to chime in (again). As a child, I had one Democrat in the family if you include extended family on both sides. Rush was always on the radio. Democrats hate America and Jesus and want to take all your money. Needless to say, I was a Republican through college. Voted in every major election but not straight ticket. I went through and voted against the democrats when there was no Republican opponent. Then I graduated from college and started working as a teacher in 2007. I continued to listen to politicians and talk radio about how liberal teachers were indoctrinating the kids and never taught reading or math. It didn’t jive with what I saw on a daily basis. I saw teachers busting their asses and spending their own money on their kids/classrooms. I saw the “lazy liberal teachers just in it for the pension” adopting their students or raising money to help with medical bills. The parking lot always had cars in it on sundays with teachers working to get ready for the week. When I turned on talk radio in the car on the way home I started to get pissed about the lies. Then came the funding cuts. My medium sized district depleted their savings and had to cut 27 million in one year. No stone was unturned with admin and teachers losing jobs. Many single teachers or two teacher families require second jobs. Hell, I still drive for Uber. Then Perry said to look at the superintendents and not him. I still voted republican because of other issues. Then came dan Patrick. My wife and I became reliable democrats and disowned the Republican Party. He was the last straw. Then came trump. We became democrat donors as well as voters. Getting older and having more real world experience made me much more liberal. tldr: fuck Texas Republicans, I ain’t goin back.

If Bonney is the difference in us beating or losing to Tech this year then we have much bigger problems.

So at least one of us has met her. Who is it?

LOL, 2 fucking minutes apart.

I take it "lie" is one of those big ugly labels you despise so much seeing as how you refuse to call his lie what it was and instead are going with "incorrect answer" over and over. What a bunch of bullshit. A lie is not an incorrect answer, it's a lie. There is a difference.

Gotta say it's refreshing to see how the Maryland president is handling this as opposed to the leadership at Penn State, Michigan State, Baylor and now, presumably, Ohio State. They'll pay a hefty, multi-million dollar settlement. And the incident will be over.

Aside from the shitty grammar, I have the same question.

That is not how the law works in regards to the charges on Zach Smith. A cop has no legal right to tell anyone they can't go to someone's home/business, unless the home/business owner request the police to do so. Well I guess they could, but it would not result in a criminal trespass arrest/summons. The angry police officer would have to find something else to arrest them for. It's cool you are trying to buy points with your "police power trip" rant, but this isn't the bernard forum from the Shaggy days. Nobody gives a shit about your opinion about police on this matter. It's irrelevant to the story. Also, show me the court order that says he can only drop the kids off at the house and I'll admit you are correct. If that language is not there, you are throwing a big old fat red herring to explain away the unexplainable. If Courtney says she doesn't want Zach at her home, has the police advise this in writing, and he shows up anyway, he broke the law. Plain and simple. You can disagree with her decision to tell him not to come, but that really doesn't matter does it? Courtney has the absolute right to feel secure in her home and not be hassled by someone she is afraid of. It doesn't matter that she fucked up and had kids with the person. That doesn't give the father of the kid free access to her property against her will. You are coming off like a real asshole who likes to victim blame over fucking sports. At the end of the day, sports are just entertainment. It's nonsensical to automatically assume Courtney is full of shit because some Ohio St homer blogger got her estranged mother to go on record. McMurphy has shown hard evidence, the other side has just shown personal attacks on the victim. You tell me which one is usually on the right side things when it all plays out.

Have you ever met one of those dorks?

"You can safely assume you’ve created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do." - Anne Lamott

Yes, you remember the big obvious activity that a dog would also notice. All you knew of the political situation was what your dad told you. You were 10. There literally are Hispanic white supremacists, so there's no need for the quotation marks. All those people with 1488 and SS tattoos waving Nazi flags aren't Nazis? They're, uh.... concerned patriots? ANTIFA is far less appalling than the Nazis. - They don't kill people. - They don't advocate genocide. - They are far more representative of actual local populations (ANTIFA groups are primarily locals defending their cities and towns while the parade of Nazis are primarily brought in from out of state). - They are not an actual political movement seeking authority and power (they are explicitly and openly anti-authority). - They are beating the Nazis and making them cry online. 10 year olds are notoriously excellent at deciphering political movements.

sorry

I also used to believe that climate change was a bunch of bull$#@!; that there was some sort of conspiracy to deprive Americans of their constitutional rights to private property via the scare tactics and fear-mongering of global warming/climate change. Then I went back to school, took a course in Chem 101, Physics 101, 102, and had instructors throughout the sciences and maths who contributed to the body of climate change research (including a a Calc IV/Diff EQ instructor with a masters in meteorology who flew into Rita ... of all people). To anyone who is on the fence on climate change or perhaps with an affinity for the truth, I urge them to set aside the politics and supernatural religious woo-woo long enough to learn the science themselves. Don't listen to the politicians, pundits, or liberal arts column writers/bloggers who don't have the expertise in science to render an expert opinion. For me, I learned that the science itself is settled ... as settled as anything ever is in science, and that the waters have been muddied by $$$, politics, and useful idiots who are ignorant of science. 97% of the peer-reviewed papers of scientists qualified to have a non-ignorant opinion (via education) agree that climate change is very real and is indeed anthropogenic. The politics of what to do about it is a whole other matter. But the rampant denialism ... that $#@! has got to go. I urge that conservatives cease the anti-science crusade, accept reality, and to start working on solutions that aren't steeped in collectivism and aren't a rejection of individual rights to ownership and liberty.

Religion is a fucking scourge

I don't think it's a phenomenon at all unique to the folks we're thinking of here -- largely rural white folk. It's also true of urban populations, including minorities. I've related this before, but I remember a police procedural show many years ago where the focus of the episode was LA area hispanic gangs, with precisely defined turf. The detective explained that some of these kids lived within 20 blocks of the ocean, but had never actually seen it. I'm sure it was hyperbole, but the point was that many people tend to stick with what they know. If you grew up in the projects, and all you saw was folks living and dying in the projects, the suggestion that you go to school, apply yourself, go to college, and end up getting a good job with GE in New York....you'd look at that person like an alien. You have no frame of reference to even conceive of that possibility, much less really understand what it takes to make it reality. Same goes for someone living in a poor agrarian area in Latin America, etc. Limited perspective and frame of reference, which either leads to or combines with limited imagination, and you have generation after generation stuck in a rut. This phenomenon is why mentorship, and just showing kids an example of another way, can go really far. My dad grew up in a poor border town. He had ONE teacher who really believed in these kids, and that they could go to college. On weekends, on his own time, he'd take the school's bus and drive the kids to Austin, or College Station, to tour the campus, meet other kids there, and see a football game. To get them to open their eyes to "hey, I could go here." He was (alas) a big aggie. Because of him, dozens upon dozens of kids from a dinky border town went to A&M and got college degrees. I go to some of my dad's reunion events, and there are all of these reasonably successful, college-educated hispanic kids from the border -- because of ONE teacher. Perspective is that important. The challenge in rural areas is that folks don't want their small town to die because everyone goes away. But the only way to move up in the world is to GTFO. Hard to reconcile that. So, frustrated with the catch-22 of a shitty life, they lash out. And note, this applies to all of the demographics.

Katy durr?

Sometimes you make the decision to do the right thing and tell your lawyers tough shit. The lawyers around here will agree with that strategy, because then they can work with an honest client of good moral character and work to minimize the financial impact instead of working with a piece of shit client who is trying to stiff the parents of a kid whose death the client is responsible for.

In the Land of Make Believe and Pretend

my mom lives in VZ county. i hate visiting. i don't have the same experience as many of yall, with my mom watching foxnews all day, but she definitely supports trump. she's in poor health, on medicare, has some in-home care, but made a solid life for herself before retirement. growing up, she definitely leaned more left, and was the one teaching me tolerance while my father, god love him, was pretty racist, and not at all reserved about it. i knew every major racial slur by age 2. it is sort of similar where my mom grew up as well. coal mining country in the ohio river valley. lots of racists. yet, these people used to be union democrats. now they are solidly pro-trump. salt of the earth, old people, voting R because they are afraid of something, i think. and yet, so many of my family members get government benefits. they decry welfare, yet they wait for that check and buy lottery tickets. it's the strangest thing. i don't want my mom to die, nor do i want that for any other members of my family who have irrationally gone hard right. i don't mind it as a policy position - i probably agree with a lot of supposed conservative policies. but this is an emotional turn, not a rational one. we see it with certain posters on this board as well (ahem, slorch, onboard), where it manifests much more as an "against" policy than a "for" policy. i really hope beto can turn out more "for" voters than cruz can turn out "against." and having thought about it - that's beto's ultimate strategy here. he is making himself human to those emotional voters, who hated hillary because she's an evil bitch, etc. he's presenting himself and being nice and polite and texas, and he's not really trying to sway them over to his side, but he's dulling that rote emotional "against" vote. he's hoping maybe they stay home because they don't hate him. it's not a stupid strategy at all.

Holy shit was that just one big run on sentence?

How are they not embarassed by that shit?

or or He's got a deep bench of stupidity to call on.

So two players that couldn't hack it at Texas are more comfortable at a place that's supposedly more physically difficult than Texas? Um, ok.

Hook’um?? Not so sure about you

If I’m being honest, I’m really sick of discussing the guy on this thread. I’m at the point of cheering for his failure because I’m irritated having to wade through all of the posters wishing him luck.

He "stuck his neck out for the guy" as long as it was kept under wraps. The very day that his actions became public, he fired him. To me, that's not sticking your neck out for a guy. That's cockroaches scurrying when the light comes on.

I fed your mom some cucumber extract

reading Bucknuts...I mean wow, those people are insane. Penn State - it’s a conspiracy to bring down our school. Joe Paterno is innocent. He didn’t know. (Ignore evidence) Baylor - it’s a conspiracy to bring down our school. Art Briles is innocent. He didn’t know (ignore evidence) Ohio State - it’s a conspiracy to bring down our school. Urban Meyer is innocent. He didn’t know (ignore evidence) Football is not one man. Don’t go full Baylor