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The thing that pisses me off, possibly the worst save the whole fuck democracy thing, is that while old, it's obvious Biden fucking loves America. And he loves America in a way that is dwindling to the point of not existing anymore. He does hard shit as president, he does shit he doesn't like, but he does it. But in moments like this, you can see his pure, unadulterated joy in bringing Americans home. This is the shit he fucking lives for as President. It's just genuine happiness to be able to bring folks home. This right here is the guy who was best friends with John McCain, right here. Meanwhile, the other fuck has never fucking laughed in his life and never enjoyed anything about being president other than worship and personal immunity.

She better love it, because an illegal from Guatemala is about to take it.

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If y’all Beetlejuice that miserable fuckstick Chainsaw back into this thread right now, I will massacre you…I will fuck you up

Thank you that's very kind. There's a lot of work in the political science field on this topic and the easiest way to characterize it is that the VP pick matters, but not in the sense of delivering a discrete result from a place or group. Where it seems to have the greatest effect is in positively or negatively reflecting on the judgment and priorities of the Presidential candidate, in that it's a reflection of what they think is important. in other words - of course it helps if your VP is popular in a battleground state and how much is a matter of degree, BUT it's hard to find an example of a VP "delivering" a close or battleground state. Bentsen didn't deliver Texas, Gore didn't deliver (or subsequently win) Tennessee. Biden already had Delaware, but arguably helped a little in PA. That said - the VP choice says a lot about the presidential candidate. Palin told the world McCain was desperate and would cater to the weirdos in the GOP. Biden told older white people that Obama wasn't a revolutionary. Cheney told the money guys that Bush was serious about playing ball. Kaine told America that Hillary couldn't handle a strong #2 and thought she had the election in the bag. Vance tells coomers with waifu pillows that Donald Trump understands their loneliness. So, part of why I give a slight edge to Walz over Shapiro is that while Shapiro is very popular in a crucial state, Walz conveys the desire to return to normalcy - the idea that it's important to laugh off the madness and go do stuff and be nice people. Shapiro is good at the politics of the moment, but nobody loves those, and conveys to Democrats that this is a must win election, but at what cost?

It's such a breath of fresh air having multiple national stage Dems not being pussies.

I would prefer a candidate for VP that people can rally around that won't instantly piss off the purity testing left. Walz or Beshear fit the bill. Shapiro's state is the only thing I like from him. He has the most possible negatives. Walz and Beshear's only negatives are they don't have enough name recognition and their states aren't that key to winning. That said, I think both could greatly help with reaching out to the middle in the Rust Belt. Walz is a midwest guy, hell he's the stereotype. Beshear can get you red state people. I also think Beshear gives you something that is a perfect antidote for white people who might be leery about voting for a black woman. He is representation. He's a young, white male. He has the perfect suburban looking family. People can see themselves in a guy like him. Yes, that's an appeal to a form of racial bias but I think he and his family would play really well with that demo. I think Walz could charm anyone over to his side with his Minnesota attitude. He feels like the living embodiment of Tommy Callahan Sr from Tommy Boy. My preference would be Walz>Beshear>>>>>>>>Shapiro. With that said, if Kamala and her team pick Shapiro then let's just fucking go. Winning is all that matters now.

More people need to stop using Twitter. Musk can’t suspend you if you don’t use his products.

This Tim Walz interview with Ezra Klein is refreshing. He’s literally the anti-Greg Abbott. “I want Minnesota to be the best state to raise kids” and he lists about 20 things they’ve done to improve the lives of mothers, kids and families. Abbott only pro-family agenda is to say “it could have been worse” 2 hours after Uvalde shooting. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000664114455

God damn, that is one professional, articulate ass whipping right there.

This is some of the dumbest, double-standard shit I've ever read.

Potential VPs bitchslapping Vance in a debate Buttigieg, Shapiro, Beshear Walz

You don’t post well enough to post at other posters like this.

That....is about as savage as it fucking gets. From one of the most popular living Americans. Who is part of a display happening on a global stage, in front of a record-sized American audience (that MAGA olympics boycott ain't working out so well), demonstrating for the "DEI is our code word for the N-word!" crowd that....diversity is our strength. Shit, just yesterday, the United States of Fucking America took gold and bronze in the women's all-around, and the competition ended with a black American and a Korean American joyfully and PROUDLY parading around the arena with an American flag. THAT is America. THAT is the reality, and the good and simple vision, that is on the table this election. Do you want jubilant Americans of all stripes working for and celebrating this country, or do you want angry fundagelical white assholes inflicting pain on everyone else? Simone's the fucking GOAT. MAGA can get fucked. The vibe is more like the Obama vibe than I expected. It's energized, and it has something to fight for, and against. Truly, imagine if term limits weren't a thing, and Obama could run again...and imagine an Obama v. Trump race in 2024. That's the kind of energy were talking about....except it may be even more than that, because women. I very much expect and fear this will happen. And it will be good for something like a +2 to Trump's numbers.

Meanwhile.

Twitter?

Look at this. This is how you do it. The man gets it. We are getting on a bus. It's going to get us to our destination in the general vicinity of where we want to go. Get on the fucking bus!

I think over the last two weeks, I've thought "Let's not overthink this, just choose _______" about probably four different people. These all appear to be better options than, say, Tim Kaine.

It’s kinda hard to appear on the 2024 Doak Walker Award Watch List when it hasn’t been released yet.

I may end up regretting this post, but fuck it. I have no problem with responsible, sensible, well thought out regulation of trans women in sports. I've stated that from the beginning. Some progressives in my life have expressed dissatisfaction with that. But the idea that the issue is simple or that there should be a complete ban is laughable. I know some trans women (who are not competitive and not athletes) that say fuck it, just resign from it all to a complete ban, agree with those that want the complete ban and let's move on. Their reasoning is that there are bigger issues to address. I say fuck that. They are all big issues. I will go to my grave believing the right to compete is as important of a fundamental human right as any other. I also think the innate need to compete as a hallmark of being human goes back to the beginning. All you have to do is look at some of the earliest depiction of human civilization to find humans competing in athletic events against each other. It's wired into us. and for those of us who do wish to compete, it's worthy of finding a way that - and this is the key - works for everyone. The desire for an outright ban is based in prejudice and discrimination, pure and simple. Almost all of the people who advocate for a complete ban also advocate for a complete ban on transition before 18 years of age predestining trans women to a complete ban in athletics by fiat and by law. I've even heard people talk about socialization as an advantage in athletics and that should also prevent trans women from competing with other women. That's absurd. Raise your girls to be as competitive as you can, it's a cut throat world out there. Even among AFAB women, those who have cultivated a competitive drive at the highest level are the ones that will win. Granted that's not a physical trait but I've heard it used many times. Again, absurd. However, there are things that should prevent trans women from competing in women sports, namely time to complete their transition, and this is controversial - effectiveness of transition. Completion and effectiveness of transition cannot be a hard and fast rule at 1 year (NCAA rule). That's preposterous. The problem with Lia Thomas is she met the bright line test from the NCAA. The NCAA set that rule a while ago probably under pressure, probably without a lot of knowledge and certainly from the standpoint that they didn't want to be seen and didn't want to be discriminatory. But in the end, Lia Thomas hurt the cause in ways that have become nearly unrecoverable. She was already an athlete and good enough to be a college athlete, she transitioned for 1 year and I think still trained. I don't think she had any surgery, if she did she would have undoubtedly had to stop training and she would not have been back in the pool competing within 12 months. Surgery has a tremendous recovery time and she wouldn't likely be cleared to jump in a pool for months, let alone train vigorously. Point is, 1 year is definitely not enough time for nearly anyone except those transitioning really early, if even then. This may harm trans women who are staring at the athletic clock whether it be age or college eligibility, etc. but fairness is fairness, it has to work for all. I think AFAB women should be protected from trans women who are in transition. Lia Thomas was still in transition, she had not completed transition. At age 36 I began my transition. I don't think I was finished for at least 4 years. But by the time I was 40 when I picked up the tennis racket, it was clear while athletic I was not a man playing women's tennis. I have a coach who coaches D1 players from time to time when they are in town for vacation or the summer. He laughed out loud when I asked if I could compete with men at the same USTA rating I had. I also play women who hit harder, run faster, and are mentally tougher than me. I think what a lot of men fail to realize is that there are some wickedly athletic and fiercely competitive women out there. This shows up in the number of men who think they could return a serve from a pro tennis player like Coco or Serena. Same probably would be the case for hitting a fast pitch softball off Canady. The list goes on. My tennis record post-transition is mixed, as I gained experience and skill I got better, I won more. As I approached next level I was winning a lot, and no doubt some would say because I'm trans. That's complete bullshit. When I moved to the next level I got my ass kicked. Some of these women were 10+ years older than me, some 10+ years younger. I've lost 0-6 / 1-6 and I've won 6-0 / 6-1. My anecdotal story is only that, but it's indicative of 99% of trans women in sports, who already represent a tiny fraction of the athletes in women's sports. But when it comes to participation and when it comes to winning at the highest levels, there is a scenario where trans women can win and should not be penalized and be told it's just because you're a man or just because you were a man or because of testosterone or whatever. And if we figure out how to measure effectiveness of transition, then I really believe we have a solution. I have friends who were not sensitive to estrogen, even after the testosterone was removed, they did not shed muscle mass, they did not gain fat weight. Did you know there are at least 4 ways to take estrogen? and that doesn't take into account dosages. Some of my friends have had to cycle through those methods to find what works, and different dosages. Some trans women have an underdeveloped sensitivity to testosterone (some have postulated it's one of the many factors in what causes a person to be trans) making estrogen take faster. The point being, transition is complex, it's not one size fits all and I think we need to take the time to ask two questions of trans women athletes - are you done with transition and was your transition effective? The IOC and NCAA have no framework to determine how receptive a body is to hormones or other aspects of medical transition. And this is the controversial part - if your medical transition isn't taking, you shouldn't be able to compete. It sucks, it may not be fair, but it's not fair to others either. And by effectiveness of transition, I don't mean do you look hot, I mean did you shed the physical traits that would be akin to the doping East Germany swim team or not? If you didn't, not sure it's fair to compete. What does that framework look like? I don't know. But I do believe it's doable. I also think the standard should be heightened for sanctioned high school, college, pro and Olympic sports and events and can be relaxed for club, recreational leagues and play, especially where there are inherent levels so that competition is structurally organized by talent/skill level. In the end, trans women and progressives need to be more understanding, but the latent and in some cases overt -isms run rampant on this issue as much as any other and for those of us who believe there is a way to get this done and who believe the right to compete is a fundamental human right, it's severely damaging. I do believe reason, logic and sound judgment can be used here to create a system that is inherently fair to everyone, and I think the importance of athletic competition demands we do it. Unfortunately, I'm afraid we are at least decades away from having the will as a society to find that solution that works for everyone. That deeply saddens me and is one of the most troubling aspects of living in this world as an (admittedly aging) trans-athlete.

I'm tempted to go look at what she had to say about Atwater and Gingrich. If she wanted civil discourse she should have said something about it back then. Did she have a problem with Cheney telling Leahy to fuck off? Nah, she doesn't get off that easy. You made the monster. Because it's uncomfortable and tawdry now you don't get a pass when Atwater taught you how to whistle. Time to pay the piper.

He does sound like him tho- somebody called him “Baruch Obama.”

Holy shit, that's my BIL!

Obama's 2008 campaign manager

She's a Texan and she's arguably the best ever in her sport. Why the hell wouldn't we want to celebrate that?

Wrap it up. We are done here. Donny just resolved the debt issue with his big brain.

Menswear guy is savage.