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  • I thought it might be helpful to have a separate topic related to the vaccine.  If this is too much duplication, mods please delete this thread.  I thought it would be good to talk about who can get the vaccine, where they can get it, what side effects people are seeing, and in general what is going on with distribution.

    The CDC has published vaccine distribution guidelines, and if you care, they are worth reading.  They are dividing the timeline into:

    • Phase 1 - Potentially limited supply of COVID-19 vaccine doses available
    • Phase 2 - Large number of vaccine doses available
    • Phase 3 - Sufficient supply of vaccine doses for entire population

    Who you are will determine if you are eligible for a vaccine in the various phases.

    Phase 1 is divided into a Phase 1a and a Phase 1b:

    • Phase 1a - Mostly healthcare workers
    • Phase 1b - Other essential workers, people with higher risks, people over 65

    If you are eligible to get the vaccine and they have in in stock and you want to get it, it is important to go get it.  Both of the first two vaccines can spoil, so if a dose is sitting there and you aren't there to get it, they might have to throw it away.

    Both vaccines require two shots.  It is important to go get that second shot.

    Who fits in phase 1b and who has to wait until phase 2 might be a sticking point.  The "people in higher risks" category includes a lot of folks, maybe more than you would think might be in that category.  Hopefully we can quickly get to phase 2 so that we don't spend too long arguing about who is or is not in Phase 1b.

    Anyway, I'm interested in everyone's experience with the vaccine and especially getting the word out for those that can go get it, so that every dose ends up in an arm rather than in the trash.

     

     


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    Brisketexan

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    26 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

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    Yet again, assholes in the name of "liberty and freedom!" violating one of the core principles of libertarianism -- your freedom to make your own choices ends at the point that your choices harm others.

    Some anti-vax horse paste aficionado is taking up a hospital bed that Jack needs.  That's selfish, cruel, and evil.

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    midtown

    Posted

    9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    Some anti-vax horse paste aficionado is taking up a hospital bed that Jack needs.  That's selfish, cruel, and evil.

    That's because there is nobody with a set of balls that will stop treating non-vaccinated in the hospital.  Out patient all of them and just tell them to fight it at home.

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    hobbes2702

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    17 hours ago, closetohumping said:

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    USC fucked around and found out.

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    KaiserSoze

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    On 8/21/2021 at 11:52 AM, JesusSweatDuck said:

    Cross posting this, but a free antibody study ongoing through UT. They're studying vaccines and antibody levels. Testing locations all over.

     

    I got the gimp J&J 5 moths ago but had a really strong reaction. I'll share my numbers when I get them

     

     

    https://sph.uth.edu/projects/texascares/

     

    I signed up over the weekend and had my first blood draw this morning- curious to see the numbers (allegedly in 2-3 days).

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    dcbc

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    9 minutes ago, KaiserSoze said:

     

    I signed up over the weekend and had my first blood draw this morning- curious to see the numbers (allegedly in 2-3 days).

    I got mine this morning as well.  Had the 5G pfizer booster last Tuesday.  This will give me a good idea over the next two draws for how long the booster stage lasts.

    KaiserSoze

    Posted

    My 2nd shot was late January and I'm planning to do the 3rd in mid-late September (followed by draws 2 & 3 at some points after that).

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    burntorangebongos

    Posted

    Thanks KaiserSoze. I got the same gimp J&J so I signed up. My older sister and her husband were able to get their boosters, I think they took Pfizer shots. I haven't been told shit about when I can take one so at least I can get an antibody test. It didn't hurt at all nor did I have any side effects when I took it. That has xort of made me nervous.

    JimmyJames

    Posted

    On 8/21/2021 at 4:41 PM, Earl Haffler said:

    He's dead.

     

    Well. At least he died for a good cause. 

    JimmyJames

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

    Yet again, assholes in the name of "liberty and freedom!" violating one of the core principles of libertarianism -- your freedom to make your own choices ends at the point that your choices harm others.

    Some anti-vax horse paste aficionado is taking up a hospital bed that Jack needs.  That's selfish, cruel, and evil.

    Just don’t admit them or kick em out when you can. A married couple I know who didn’t get the vaccine got kicked out of the hospital last week and sent home with a whole shitload of oxygen tanks and some written instructions on how to use them. They’ll probably be ok but I doubt that’s the optimal standard of care. 

    atomheartbevo

    Posted

    Just keep reminding anti-vaccine people you know that if they are worried about "experimental" vaccines, they haven't seen anything if they get admitted to a hospital and start getting pumped full of experimental drugs to keep them alive - drugs that have seen far less testing than the vaccines.

    Some of these people are acting like they are going to break the Warp 10 barrier  if they get vaccinated and evolve into another lifeforms.

    My Voyager peeps know what I'm talking about.

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    Deej

    Posted (edited)

    Just so you know the idiots just don't reside in the U.S., a cousin from, and in, New Zealand just posted this shit...

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    sadly it’s proven the vaccinated people spread it to so there lies the problem
    Vaccinated or not vaccinated it doesn’t matter as you all spread it
    So it’s everyone’s right to chose whether they want a rushed drug in their system
    Fuck that
    Could be another agent orange or any of those drugs that they gave pregnant woman that caused birth defects
    So many people now in so many countries are now asking questions
    And so many no longer trust governments and politicians
    Time will tell
    No haters please from these comments
    It’s mine and so many others choice
    I’d rather deal with a virus that kills bugger all people percentage wise
    Than a drug that’s been made in under a year

     

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    Anastasis

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, elfenix said:

    Dr. Fauci on All Things Considered for 11 minutes on meaning of Pfizer's full authorization, where moderna is, where kids are, etc.

    https://www.npr.org/2021/08/23/1030430529/dr-fauci-weighs-in-on-the-fdas-approval-of-the-pfizer-vaccine

    Also, Germany's last beer brewing nun:

    https://www.npr.org/2021/08/23/1026707774/a-pilgrimage-to-meet-germanys-last-beer-brewing-nun

    Fauci says we are moving as quickly as possible with the pedi authorization, but this is simply not true. 

    Post Oak

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

    Fauci says we are moving as quickly as possible with the pedi authorization, but this is simply not true. 

    Why do you say that?

    Anastasis

    Posted (edited)

    14 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

    Why do you say that?

    They have delayed the trial with a "request" for additional sample size.  The sample size increase is not sufficient to definitively establish the risk profile for the events of concern. We won't have sufficient sample size to resolve the issue until there is broader roll out.  So we have delayed the read out of data to support an EUA for what is an inevitable outcome, authorization with real world data ultimately informing a definitive safety assessment. 

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    wildcat09

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    9 hours ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

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    I can't imagine the murderous rage I would feel if I was this kid's father.

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    Pato del Muerto

    Posted

    9 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

    I can't imagine the murderous rage I would feel if I was this kid's father.

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    Gatorubet

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    Just don’t admit them or kick em out when you can. A married couple I know who didn’t get the vaccine got kicked out of the hospital last week and sent home with a whole shitload of oxygen tanks and some written instructions on how to use them. They’ll probably be ok but I doubt that’s the optimal standard of care. 

    Dunno about optimal, but sure seems overly generous. Why not let ‘em do the horse paste and prayer warrior route.
    KaiserSoze

    Posted

    On 8/21/2021 at 1:42 PM, JesusSweatDuck said:

    My wife got moderna in April. She had 1290

     

    On 8/21/2021 at 2:21 PM, fluff said:

    End of March for Moderna for me and I was at 1154 on Thursday.

     

    On 8/21/2021 at 2:49 PM, Brisketexan said:


    What’s a “good” number?

     

    On 8/21/2021 at 2:55 PM, Homercles said:

    Studies I read said anything over 350

     

    Mine came back at 978. My 2nd shot (Moderna) was late January. 

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    Bevo in VA

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    “I’ve got to be honest, I don’t see the approval for kids 5 to 11 coming much before the end of 2021,” NIH Director Francis Collins said. The vaccine remains available to children 12 to 15 under an emergency use authorization, or EUA. The reason, Collins said, is a matter of data. “I know a lot of people are really anxious to see this move forward,” he said, especially as children return to classrooms for the new school year.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/24/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/#link-CFOWGQO7HJCP3CM4SOLOEUTT2Q

     

    This sucks.  They really need to speed up the process to get the younger school-age kids vaxed.  Anyone out there got a hook up with a doc that is willing to give my 11 and 7 year olds doses off-label?

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    Brew

    Posted

    My two kids got their second shots over the weekend with virtually no issues (couple weeks late on the second because of their schedules.) The school they go to is over 60% in grades 7-12 with at least the first shot which is way higher than anyone expected. We are running at virtually no one out while the other local schools are averaging 15% of the population out a day with several districts shutting back down again. The numbers locally have been stupid high, but kids getting vaccinated and the school keeping most of the policies in place from last year have made a huge difference at least in our school.

    Wulaw Horn

    Posted

    For all the hand wringing on here about this being an "American problem" here's a little data on European doses per 100 people

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1196071/covid-19-vaccination-rate-in-europe-by-country/


    Europe is 2 points older than us (percentage 65+) of which we have almost everyone in that age group vaccinated (I saw something like 91% for 65-75), and 2 points less kids (who can't be vaccinated) so that gives them an advantage on both ends of the age curve.  Even with that advantage for them you can see we (America) are at 110 doses per 100 people.  That puts us right in a tier with Sweden, Finland, Germany, Norway and Austria. I would argue that if we had their age demographics we would have almost the exact same dosage rates as those countries while being somewhat behind Italy, France, Netherlands, UK, Spain etc. 


    Texas lags the national average.  We also have 26% of our population that's kids, only 1/4 of which are eligible to get vaxed- and that only under emergency authorization.  


    So- this "selfishness" doesn't seem to me to be an American problem but rather one of a human nature.  

    How that works into a scheme to convince more people to vax I don't know.  

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    F250

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    1 hour ago, KaiserSoze said:

     

     

     

     

    Mine came back at 978. My 2nd shot (Moderna) was late January. 

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    Neonmoon

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    27 minutes ago, Bevo in VA said:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/24/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/#link-CFOWGQO7HJCP3CM4SOLOEUTT2Q

     

    This sucks.  They really need to speed up the process to get the younger school-age kids vaxed.  Anyone out there got a hook up with a doc that is willing to give my 11 and 7 year olds doses off-label?

    Your 11 year old is 12 if want them to be. Many have already done this. Just don’t go to a store or vax site that has their info on file. 

    Kringelbert Fishtybuns

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    41 minutes ago, Bevo in VA said:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/24/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/#link-CFOWGQO7HJCP3CM4SOLOEUTT2Q

     

    This sucks.  They really need to speed up the process to get the younger school-age kids vaxed.  Anyone out there got a hook up with a doc that is willing to give my 11 and 7 year olds doses off-label?

    Moderna trail was bringing in kids this week and next for first jab/placebo.  No idea if there are slots still open.

    Muy Frio

    Posted

    When confirmed, they believe the turnaround on a new booster would be 95 days. 

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    TexEx15

    Posted (edited)

    2 hours ago, KaiserSoze said:

     

     

     

     

    Mine came back at 978. My 2nd shot (Moderna) was late January. 

    Just got mine back.  Second shot (Moderna) was beginning of February.  994.  

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    fluff

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

    Just got mine back.  Second shot was beginning of February.  994.  

    Thank you for all you guys reporting numbers!  It is interesting to see how the numbers shake out.

    Liquor and Poker

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    2 hours ago, KaiserSoze said:

     

     

     

     

    Mine came back at 978. My 2nd shot (Moderna) was late January. 

    My wife at 587 from early February 2nd Pfizer.  CPL not showing my results yet.  

    Neonmoon

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    23 minutes ago, Muy Frio said:

    When confirmed, they believe the turnaround on a new booster would be 95 days. 

    (Casually buys more toilet paper online) 

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    LurkingHorn

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    26 minutes ago, Muy Frio said:

    When confirmed, they believe the turnaround on a new booster would be 95 days. 

    Am I the only one that thinks 95 days is a stupid long number for turnaround? Seems like they should be able to make the changes and start production within 30 days. 

    fluff

    Posted

      Vaccine Last Shot  
    Fluff Moderna March  1154
    TexEx15 Moderna February 994
    KaiserSoze Moderna January 978
    JesusSweatDuck Wife Moderna April 1290
    Babysdaddy Pfizer March 714
    Liquor and Poker Pfizer February 587

     

    Thought I would see if there are any trends here...Let me know if I missed anyone and I will add them.

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    Wulaw Horn

    Posted

    Just now, LurkingHorn said:

    Am I the only one that thinks 95 days is a stupid long number for turnaround? Seems like they should be able to make the changes and start production within 30 days. 

    Only one?  Probably not.  But I was amazed that they were saying 95 days. I have no idea what goes into that stuff but it seems incredible to me how well they've done with it to date, and 3 months from outbreak to booster seems pretty incredible.

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    Liquor and Poker

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, fluff said:
      Vaccine Last Shot  
    Fluff Moderna March  1154
    TexEx15 Moderna February 994
    KaiserSoze Moderna January 978
    JesusSweatDuck Wife Moderna April 1290
    Babysdaddy Pfizer March 714
    Liquor and Poker Pfizer February 587

     

    Thought I would see if there are any trends here...Let me know if I missed anyone and I will add them.

    Just to fuck up your chart.  My wife was 587, and I just got my results and I am 1393.  Both got Pfizer second shot early Feb. 

    Sbbruin

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, fluff said:
      Vaccine Last Shot  
    Fluff Moderna March  1154
    TexEx15 Moderna February 994
    KaiserSoze Moderna January 978
    JesusSweatDuck Wife Moderna April 1290
    Babysdaddy Pfizer March 714
    Liquor and Poker Pfizer February 587

     

    Thought I would see if there are any trends here...Let me know if I missed anyone and I will add them.

    Sorry, what trends are you trying to track?  FWIW, I was Moderna and 2nd shot 3/25.

    Brisketexan

    Posted

    43 minutes ago, Muy Frio said:

    When confirmed, they believe the turnaround on a new booster would be 95 days. 

    Which re-raises my question.  There is an annual "variant" of the flu every year.  That is, the flu vaccine is different from one year to the next in terms of the exact virus it targets, but there's not a whole FDA approval process for each year's version.  So....how does that work, and could the COVID vaccine follow a similar path -- that is, it can be adjusted for new variants without having to do the whole long-term new approval process?

    kevwun

    Posted

    They all had their antibody levels tested.  The higher the number the better.

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    Pato del Muerto

    Posted

    12 minutes ago, Liquor and Poker said:

    Just to fuck up your chart.  My wife was 587, and I just got my results and I am 1393.  Both got Pfizer second shot early Feb. 

    I wonder if a higher than average antibody count would hint at a successfully fought off exposure/infection that triggered the war machine. 

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    DDD Dad

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    Which re-raises my question.  There is an annual "variant" of the flu every year.  That is, the flu vaccine is different from one year to the next in terms of the exact virus it targets, but there's not a whole FDA approval process for each year's version.  So....how does that work, and could the COVID vaccine follow a similar path -- that is, it can be adjusted for new variants without having to do the whole long-term new approval process?

    I believe that is the case.

    StruggleBus

    Posted (edited)

    32 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

    Am I the only one that thinks 95 days is a stupid long number for turnaround? Seems like they should be able to make the changes and start production within 30 days. 

    what the fuck GIF

     

    Most companies can't pay an invoice within thirty days. A 95 day timeline is incredible. 

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    CooterBrown

    Posted

    28 minutes ago, fluff said:
      Vaccine Last Shot  
    Fluff Moderna March  1154
    TexEx15 Moderna February 994
    KaiserSoze Moderna January 978
    JesusSweatDuck Wife Moderna April 1290
    Babysdaddy Pfizer March 714
    Liquor and Poker Pfizer February 587

     

    Thought I would see if there are any trends here...Let me know if I missed anyone and I will add them.

    From that chart, it could be inferred that Moderna is to Pfizer what OG Kush is to Ditch Weed.

     

     

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    fluff

    Posted

    22 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

    Sorry, what trends are you trying to track?  FWIW, I was Moderna and 2nd shot 3/25.

    I have no idea.  Some of it might be self serving as I have a severe immunoglobulin deficiency, so I am sort of interested to see how my response to the vaccine has been compared to others that might not have an immunoglobulin deficiency...

    conVINCEd

    Posted

    Not part of this study, but I had my 2nd Moderna shot in late April, caught a mild case of COVID in early June and was 1163 3 weeks ago.

    Nonbryan

    Posted

    Are those chart antibody numbers taken right after they received the 2nd shot?  Or are they #s from the recent past?

    Liquor and Poker

    Posted

    31 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    I wonder if a higher than average antibody count would hint at a successfully fought off exposure/infection that triggered the war machine. 

    The UT Cares thing distinguishes between disease antibodies and vaccine antibodies.  I have 0 of the former. 

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