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    I thought it might be helpful to have a separate topic related to the vaccine.  If this is too much duplication, mods please delete this thread.  I thought it would be good to talk about who can get the vaccine, where they can get it, what side effects people are seeing, and in general what is going on with distribution.

    The CDC has published vaccine distribution guidelines, and if you care, they are worth reading.  They are dividing the timeline into:

    • Phase 1 - Potentially limited supply of COVID-19 vaccine doses available
    • Phase 2 - Large number of vaccine doses available
    • Phase 3 - Sufficient supply of vaccine doses for entire population

    Who you are will determine if you are eligible for a vaccine in the various phases.

    Phase 1 is divided into a Phase 1a and a Phase 1b:

    • Phase 1a - Mostly healthcare workers
    • Phase 1b - Other essential workers, people with higher risks, people over 65

    If you are eligible to get the vaccine and they have in in stock and you want to get it, it is important to go get it.  Both of the first two vaccines can spoil, so if a dose is sitting there and you aren't there to get it, they might have to throw it away.

    Both vaccines require two shots.  It is important to go get that second shot.

    Who fits in phase 1b and who has to wait until phase 2 might be a sticking point.  The "people in higher risks" category includes a lot of folks, maybe more than you would think might be in that category.  Hopefully we can quickly get to phase 2 so that we don't spend too long arguing about who is or is not in Phase 1b.

    Anyway, I'm interested in everyone's experience with the vaccine and especially getting the word out for those that can go get it, so that every dose ends up in an arm rather than in the trash.

     

     

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    MonkeyDoughnut
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    Finally after many months of work including flying out to persuade... my parents (late 70's) finally got their first vaccine dose today. Can't tell you how relieved I am that they've started the process finally.

    By all accounts well educated, smart people, just didn't want to get it for various reasons.  I was finally able to push them over the hump this weekend. They said they were getting closer to getting it but my talk gave them enough to take immediate action.  Their indecision was in large part to my mom's adverse reaction to many, many medicines, combined with relatively good health - my dad's never taken/needed an antibiotic in his life, and their hope that it would "blow over".   I finally said, based on what's going on in schools and the fact that the rest of the world is way behind as well, that it is no longer a matter of "if" but a matter of "when" they where getting the vaccine. Also added the true fact that I was personally starting to lose sleep and was physically taking a toll worrying about them not being vaccinated.  Another couple months I'll be even happier, but at least there is major progress.

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    Pato del Muerto
    1 hour ago, SizzleChest said:

    Meanwhile, in the Ozarks...

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    Saw this yesterday on a thread i think, then later last night after my Mond let go of hail merry it occurred to me that the mayor seems to believe that access and knowledge are the problem for the docs, that he can fix by showing up with some ivermectin and some truth. As if the hospital doesn’t have and can’t get ivermectin.  I’m sure parasitic infections are quite common around lake of the ozarks. 

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    Zepol87
    57 minutes ago, Shaddie said:

    What is crazy about my sister, is she has had bad asthma since birth. 
    She and her husband were stationed in Spain about 1985 and she had bad attack and was hospitalized.  Me and my other sis went to Houston to get passports cause she might not make cause she was intubated. 
     

    You would think somebody who has been there would do anything not to be there again.  
    We need to absolutely kill this right wing bullshit that this is leftist or against freedumbs. 

    This is my brother. Bad ashtma still as an adult and has to use his inhaler almost daily. Lungs are all sorts of fucked up and he is still saying he won't get it. He isn't very political but his in laws are but I am not sure what his reasoning is. He is literally only alive because of fucking medicine. He was at Childrens Dallas pretty much monthly with asthma issues when we were growing up. I don't understand it and I keep fucking trying but he won't get the damn vaccine.

    Quick edit: My mom in a group text asked him why? He responded "I don't get flu shots and I am still here"

    I guess that is his reasoning what a fucking moron

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    Shaddie
    9 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

    This is my brother. Bad ashtma still as an adult and has to use his inhaler almost daily. Lungs are all sorts of fucked up and he is still saying he won't get it. He isn't very political but his in laws are but I am not sure what his reasoning is. He is literally only alive because of fucking medicine. He was at Childrens Dallas pretty much monthly with asthma issues when we were growing up. I don't understand it and I keep fucking trying but he won't get the damn vaccine.

    Quick edit: My mom in a group text asked him why? He responded "I don't get flu shots and I am still here"

    I guess that is his reasoning what a fucking moron

    Hope he sees the light before it is too late. Don’t know y’all’s situation but maybe send him some pics of people in ICU. Say “dude I don’t give a fuck what you believe but I love you and want you around so I can give you shit at family picnic.”

    Hope all works out. 

     

     

     

     

     

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    atomheartbevo
    25 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    As if the hospital doesn’t have and can’t get ivermectin.  I’m sure parasitic infections are quite common around lake of the ozarks. 

    So is incest but we don't see anybody recommending it.

    Missouri is such a weird state.  Some really awesome areas and cities/towns, but also still got some Arkansas in them.

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    Pato del Muerto
    31 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

    Quick edit: My mom in a group text asked him why? He responded "I don't get flu shots and I am still here"

    I guess that is his reasoning what a fucking moron

    If my brother said something that stupid I’d start hoping he catches a bad case.  Dumb should hurt. 

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    Shaddie
    13 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    If my brother said something that stupid I’d start hoping he catches a bad case.  Dumb should hurt. 

    Dude, all fun and games till it’s family. Calm the funk down. 

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    conVINCEd
    12 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    If my brother said something that stupid I’d start hoping he catches a bad case.  Dumb should hurt. 

    My aunt is in the hospital.  Unvaxxed senior citizen.  That entire branch of the family tree was poisoned by her now dead evangelical husband.  None are vaxxed.  I’ve run out of fucks to give.  Whatever happens happens.

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    Shaddie
    2 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

    My aunt is in the hospital.  Unvaxxed senior citizen.  That entire branch of the family tree was poisoned by her now dead evangelical husband.  None are vaxxed.  I’ve run out of fucks to give.  Whatever happens happens.

    Sorry to hear that. Understand the give a fuck response though. 

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    dcbc
    13 hours ago, Shaddie said:

    Nice. Think I will go this weekend and get my 1st Pfizer. Wink wink. 
    Seriously though do pharmacies have both and they ask you or do you have to research where your previous is being administered?

    When I signed up on CVS, I selected pfizer (because that's what I'd had before) and it only showed options that had pfizer.

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    dcbc
    13 hours ago, Liquor and Poker said:

    So the third shot doesn’t have the two-week lagtime before it starts working?

    Supposedly 1 week.  Or, in my case, less time.

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    Newdoc
    13 hours ago, SizzleChest said:

    Meanwhile, in the Ozarks...

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    Important to know that he keeps his boat at the marina. Makes the case for Ivermectin all that more compelling. I will be praying that Dennis Newberry and Dennis Meiser's family both STFU about Ivermectin and let the doctors and nurses who trained for a combined bajillion hours do their jobs with their own expertise.

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    Anastasis

    JNJ start to release some of their two shot regimen data.  No efficacy data I see. 

    https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson-announces-data-to-support-boosting-its-single-shot-covid-19-vaccine

    In July, the Company reported interim Phase 1/2a data published in the New England Journal of Medicine that demonstrated neutralizing antibody responses generated by the Johnson & Johnson single-shot COVID-19 vaccine were strong and stable through eight months after immunization.

    In anticipation of the potential need for boosters, the Company conducted two Phase 1/2a studies in individuals previously vaccinated with its single-shot vaccine. New interim data from these studies demonstrate that a booster dose of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine generated a rapid and robust increase in spike-binding antibodies, nine-fold higher than 28 days after the primary single-dose vaccination. Significant increases in binding antibody responses were observed in participants between ages 18 and 55, and in those 65 years and older who received a lower booster dose. The study summaries were submitted to medRxiv on August 24.

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    Muy Frio
    7 minutes ago, Bevo said:

    Great so now we will have an uptick in diabeetus and heart disease.

    A donut a day keeps the risk of severe illness and death from covid away. 

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    Homercles

    Just got my Moderna booster in cedar park.  No questions asked, second initial dose was first week of March but being married to an educator + unvaccinated young kiddos = wanted to get it done now. 
     

    Link for anyone interested
never got a confirmation email or anything, but I was in the system:  https://portal.gorev.com/preregister.aspx?s=JoVdzXWbZQ2gQxn7b2zAUg%3d%3d&f=9LZqFYfNjGnUWxG4cOtfXw%3d%3d&l=NNwEBfPJTAkRyf2X4Dd38Q%3d%3d

     

     

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    smoky

    Aren't we coming up on open enrollment season for most employer provided health plans?

    Seems like a ripe opportunity to, ahem, encourage folks with varying premium options depending on your vaccination status...

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    Liquor and Poker
    1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

    JNJ start to release some of their two shot regimen data.  No efficacy data I see. 

    https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson-announces-data-to-support-boosting-its-single-shot-covid-19-vaccine

    In July, the Company reported interim Phase 1/2a data published in the New England Journal of Medicine that demonstrated neutralizing antibody responses generated by the Johnson & Johnson single-shot COVID-19 vaccine were strong and stable through eight months after immunization.

    In anticipation of the potential need for boosters, the Company conducted two Phase 1/2a studies in individuals previously vaccinated with its single-shot vaccine. New interim data from these studies demonstrate that a booster dose of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine generated a rapid and robust increase in spike-binding antibodies, nine-fold higher than 28 days after the primary single-dose vaccination. Significant increases in binding antibody responses were observed in participants between ages 18 and 55, and in those 65 years and older who received a lower booster dose. The study summaries were submitted to medRxiv on August 24.

    Ninefold increase sure does sound good, though.  

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    Oh, and if you thought that, for most anti-vaxxers, FDA approval wouldn't move the needle at all, because their decisionmaking is fundamentally irrational and not tethered to any reality, you'd be right:

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    We wanted to see if the FDA's approval had changed the minds of those who don't want to get the shot.

    “Absolutely not,” former Houston Methodist nurse Jennifer Bridges said. “And for a lot of reasons.”

    Bridges is among the former Houston Methodist employees who filed state and federal lawsuits against the hospital system after they were told to pick between a vaccine and their jobs.

    RELATED: 153 Houston Methodist employees who refused to get the COVID-19 vaccine have resigned or been fired

    “What I question is if this is so safe and effective, everybody and their mother would be rushing to it,” Bridges said. “You would not have to pay people, bribe them, coerce them, threaten them to do it.”

    The nurse said full FDA approval isn’t enough to convince the employees who were let go from the hospital to get a shot.

    Because reasons.  If it's so safe and effective, everybody and their mother would be rushing to it!  Ummmm.....

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    The biggest vaccination campaign in history is underway. More than 5.02 billion doses have been administered across 183 countries, according to data collected by Bloomberg. The latest rate was roughly 36.4 million doses a day.

    In the U.S., 364 million doses have been given so far. In the last week, an average of 860,114 doses per day were administered.

    Over 5 billion doses of ANYTHING definitely falls into the "everybody and their mother" category.

    Nothing will convince the insane morons.  Nothing.

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    conVINCEd

    Aunt is now on a vent.  Her kids are still not vaccinated, nor are her eligible grandchildren.  And they’re very proud of the fact that they’re not vaccinated.  These were completely normal people 10-15 years ago.  

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    Bevo in VA
    2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

     

    It's confusing because in a related NPR written article discussing the interview, they seem to imply that he was specifically referring to full approval - not to emergency use authorization.

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    Parents and caregivers may have to wait until the end of 2021 before a COVID-19 vaccine is fully approved for young children ages 5 to 11. The news comes from Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, in an interview with NPR's Morning Edition.

    Collins said both Pfizer and Moderna are still collecting trial data, trying to understand — among other things — whether young children should receive a smaller vaccine dose than what has already been approved for adults.

    Pfizer could submit its data to the Food and Drug Administration for review by the end of September, Collins said. But he added, "I've got to be honest, I don't see the approval for kids — 5 to 11 — coming much before the end of 2021."

    While full FDA approval is likely several months away, Pfizer's vaccine could be cleared for emergency use earlier, possibly in October, after the submission of its trial data.

    . I'm still holding out hope for October.

     

     

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    Brisketexan
    1 minute ago, conVINCEd said:

    Aunt is now on a vent.  Her kids are still not vaccinated, nor are her eligible grandchildren.  And they’re very proud of the fact that they’re not vaccinated.  These were completely normal people 10-15 years ago.  

    I'm sorry.  And I'm furious on your behalf.

    Assuming you are Christian, God gave Mankind numerous gifts, among them the top intellect among all creatures.  Man has used that intellect to create many things that improved our health and survival: we can build shelters from the elements, we developed tools to help us grow crops to feed billions, we have developed tools to fight fires, to fight bacterial infections, to perform "miraculous" surgeries to cure complex conditions, to create immunotherapies that knock back cancer......all of those things flow from the singular gift that God gave Mankind.  Yet this ONE thing -- this particular vaccine -- well, that doesn't fit with all of the other things man has developed to make his life better.  Because.....reasons.

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    dcbc
    10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    I'm sorry.  And I'm furious on your behalf.

    This.  None of the reactionary rep buttons seemed singularly to convey it well. 

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    Storm the Field
    1 hour ago, midtown said:

    Delta Airlines adding a $200/mth surcharge to all unvaccinated employees in their health plan.  

    Delta doesn't want to run afoul of Kemp and the GA legislature by "mandating" vaccines, so are having to be clever on how to force the issue.

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    3 minutes ago, Storm the Field said:

    Delta doesn't want to run afoul of Kemp and the GA legislature by "mandating" vaccines, so are having to be clever on how to force the issue.

    Basically, this.  Thankfully most of the Georgia government is so fucking stupid and morally corrupt that they'll just see this as free market solutions over a socialistic mandate regarding vaccines.  Then about 48 hours from now, they'll wake up in a cold sweat and posit the argument, "Charging more for personal choices and freedoms is UnAmerican!!!!!"  And they'll attempt to make it illegal for health/life insurance companies to charge more for smokers and chronic heroin users.  

    It's impossible we're this fucking stupid.  But here we are.  Every insane fucking idea we can think of that these people will say and do to justify their moronic belief system, is constantly usurped by what they actually come up with in real life.  Every fucking time.  

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    Anastasis
    20 minutes ago, Bevo in VA said:

    It's confusing because in a related NPR written article discussing the interview, they seem to imply that he was specifically referring to full approval - not to emergency use authorization.

    . I'm still holding out hope for October.

     

     

    I hope that is right.

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    JesusSweatDuck

    Just found out that my immunocompromised mom who can't get vaccinated (Dr's orders) was exposed on Monday by a coworker that decided to come in sick to work.  Worked the full day, felt worse yesterday and got tests.  Yes, coworker is a relatively healthy young person who didn't get vaccinated.  Fuck

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    conVINCEd
    22 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    I'm sorry.  And I'm furious on your behalf.

    Assuming you are Christian, God gave Mankind numerous gifts, among them the top intellect among all creatures.  Man has used that intellect to create many things that improved our health and survival: we can build shelters from the elements, we developed tools to help us grow crops to feed billions, we have developed tools to fight fires, to fight bacterial infections, to perform "miraculous" surgeries to cure complex conditions, to create immunotherapies that knock back cancer......all of those things flow from the singular gift that God gave Mankind.  Yet this ONE thing -- this particular vaccine -- well, that doesn't fit with all of the other things man has developed to make his life better.  Because.....reasons.

    It is what it is.  My uncle died a few years ago.  A very rare form of cancer.  They tried every experimental treatment known to mankind, even had an apartment in Houston (they live in DFW) so he could be at M.D. Anderson as often as was required.  They threw the kitchen sink at his cancer, but rolling up your sleeve and getting a shot during the middle of a pandemic is apparently a bridge too far.  You don’t need to be furious on my behalf, I’ve more than got that covered.

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    Cheeseweasel
    47 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

    Just found out that my immunocompromised mom who can't get vaccinated (Dr's orders) was exposed on Monday by a coworker that decided to come in sick to work.  Worked the full day, felt worse yesterday and got tests.  Yes, coworker is a relatively healthy young person who didn't get vaccinated.  Fuck

    This is what I don't understand. It's been banged in everyone's head for almost 2 years. If you are sick, stay home. Get tested.

    But I had an employee ask me on Monday morning (via text, thankfully) "I couldn't taste my breakfast this morning, what should I do?"

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