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  • I thought it might be helpful to have a separate topic related to the vaccine.  If this is too much duplication, mods please delete this thread.  I thought it would be good to talk about who can get the vaccine, where they can get it, what side effects people are seeing, and in general what is going on with distribution.

    The CDC has published vaccine distribution guidelines, and if you care, they are worth reading.  They are dividing the timeline into:

    • Phase 1 - Potentially limited supply of COVID-19 vaccine doses available
    • Phase 2 - Large number of vaccine doses available
    • Phase 3 - Sufficient supply of vaccine doses for entire population

    Who you are will determine if you are eligible for a vaccine in the various phases.

    Phase 1 is divided into a Phase 1a and a Phase 1b:

    • Phase 1a - Mostly healthcare workers
    • Phase 1b - Other essential workers, people with higher risks, people over 65

    If you are eligible to get the vaccine and they have in in stock and you want to get it, it is important to go get it.  Both of the first two vaccines can spoil, so if a dose is sitting there and you aren't there to get it, they might have to throw it away.

    Both vaccines require two shots.  It is important to go get that second shot.

    Who fits in phase 1b and who has to wait until phase 2 might be a sticking point.  The "people in higher risks" category includes a lot of folks, maybe more than you would think might be in that category.  Hopefully we can quickly get to phase 2 so that we don't spend too long arguing about who is or is not in Phase 1b.

    Anyway, I'm interested in everyone's experience with the vaccine and especially getting the word out for those that can go get it, so that every dose ends up in an arm rather than in the trash.

     

     


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    kevwun

    Posted

    Have a friend who got a JNJ shot this week and she felt like ass afterwards.  She had a mild case of covid around Christmas.  Looks like there is no escaping the post-shot symptoms. 

    Surly Bevo

    Posted

    1 minute ago, kevwun said:

    Have a friend who got a JNJ shot this week and she felt like ass afterwards.  She had a mild case of covid around Christmas.  Looks like there is no escaping the post-shot symptoms

    Yes yes, one anecdote from a friend easily applies to 300+ million Americans.  🙄

    kevwun

    Posted

    I posted that in case anyone was leaning towards JNJ in the hopes of avoiding them.  I haven't seen much info on it since it's only just started to be widely distributed.

    Sawbonz

    Posted

    On 4/2/2021 at 2:50 PM, Borachio said:

    I thought you guys would be interested in this.  I am in the Moderna trial and had my second dose the 3rd week of September.  Two weeks after my second dose I had a spike protein antibody test done at the lab I work at.  (Euroimmun ELISA test for the qualitative determination of IgG antibodies to the S1 domain of the spike protein, for you medical types.)

    A result value greater than 1.09 is positive, below is the reference range.

    Back in Oct., two weeks after my second dose, my result value was 8.99, which was flagged as high.  I had the same test done 2 days ago, 6 months after being "fully vaccinated" and my result value is now 6.88, which is still being flagged as high.  It only dropped 2 points in 6 months!  Is that good?  That seems good.   I'm a 43 year old male for reference.

    That doesn't even include the T Cells waiting inside the castle to kick some butt if needed.   Yay science!

    Interpretation:
    Ratio <0.8 Negative
    Ratio 0.8-1.09 Borderline
    Ratio >1.09 Positive

    Have you been unblinded yet?

    Borachio

    Posted

    46 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

    Have you been unblinded yet?

    Yes, first week in February.

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    gyroprotagonist

    Posted

    On 4/2/2021 at 11:27 PM, LABEVO said:

    We are working remote not from home past 3 days for a change scenery 3+ hours out of Austin

    I called every place with 30 mins of our Airbnb, everyone had availability but only 1 would allow non-residents appointments. 
     

    this is fucked. Next time, I’m just paying to cut in line...

    did you look at CVS?  They have no city residency as far as I know.  I live in Dallas and got jabbed in Lubbock and set up 2nd shot back in the DFW area.  

    kevwun

    Posted

    HEB doesn't check addresses either.

    Paper_jam

    Posted

    I got Moderna #2 yesterday, and getting out of bed this morning was haaaarrd. Achy all over and a little feverish. Right shoulder is angry. But at least no severe chills or headache.

     

    texasdago

    Posted

    Wife had Pfizer #2.  Zero adverse impacts.

    Anastasis

    Posted

    Moderna 6 month data from small sample of Phase 1 participants...

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2103916?query=featured_home

     

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    Although the antibody titers and assays that best correlate with vaccine efficacy are not currently known, antibodies that were elicited by mRNA-1273 persisted through 6 months after the second dose, as detected by three distinct serologic assays. Ongoing studies are monitoring immune responses beyond 6 months as well as determining the effect of a booster dose to extend the duration and breadth of activity against emerging viral variants. Our data show antibody persistence and thus support the use of this vaccine in addressing the Covid-19 pandemic.

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    Anastasis

    Posted (edited)

    EMA (European FDA) says that there is a link between AZ vaccine and blood clots, but benefits still outweigh risks. 

    ETA: Retract post, ban user. EMA head of vaccines indicates that he sees a clear link, EMA not making a definitive determination yet. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/06/ema-denies-already-finding-causal-link-astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clots

    Europe’s drug regulator has denied it has already established a causal connection between the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine and a rare blood clotting syndrome, after a senior official from the agency said there was a link.

    In a statement to Agence France-Presse, the European Medicines Agency (EMA) said on Tuesday it had “not yet reached a conclusion and the review is currently ongoing”, adding that it expected to announce its findings on Wednesday or Thursday.

    Marco Cavaleri, the EMA’s head of vaccines, had earlier told Italy’s Il Messaggero newspaper that in his opinion “we can say it now, it is clear there is a link with the vaccine … But we still do not know what causes this reaction.”

     

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    bborange

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    2nd Moderna shot 4 hours ago in Taylor.    So far so good.

    The location in Taylor by appointments, but they are also taking walk-ins as they have about 100 extra shots a day for the next 2 days.  They are doing first and second shots.  I was in and out in less than 30 minutes.

    If anyone wants to head to Taylor, just reply to this post and I will go find that address and post it.   

    XYZ

    Posted (edited)

    Who the hell coined the term “vaccine passport”?

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    Armybrat

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, XYZ said:

    Who the hell coined the term “vaccine passport”?

     

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    Captainant

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    Holy shit y'all gotta tone down the antivaxx in here, it's starting to smell like aggy in this thread. 

    https://time.com/5952532/vaccine-passport-history/

    Vaccine passports were critical to the successful containment and eradication of smallpox in the US, but sure, nazis I guess?

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    Anastasis

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    That we are even talking about "passports" is so fucking wrong headed. It's unsurprising that the gravity of our political dysfunction is pulling us into this orbit. 

     

     

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    washparkhorn

    Posted

    Ana - human nature requires us to create an exclusive club so the trendies will rush get the vaccine and obviate the need for said passport. Everything is a market.

    Anastasis

    Posted

    17 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

    Ana - human nature requires us to create an exclusive club so the trendies will rush get the vaccine and obviate the need for said passport. Everything is a market.

    That's one way to approach demand creation. There are others of course. 

    JimmyJames

    Posted

    2 hours ago, XYZ said:

    Who the hell coined the term “vaccine passport”?

    Some people are good at marketing. Some people not so much. 

    GopherRock

    Posted

    3 hours ago, XYZ said:

    Who the hell coined the term “vaccine passport”?

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    gmr548

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    3 hours ago, Armybrat said:

     

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    Of all people, I'd expect someone who lived through that to understand why it's a garbage comparison.

    2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

    That we are even talking about "passports" is so fucking wrong headed. It's unsurprising that the gravity of our political dysfunction is pulling us into this orbit. 

     

     

    Yeah, pretty astounding messaging fail. It's one thing at the onset to say "FYI, not sure about asymptomatic transmission yet so that's something we are going to have to watch for. Proceed with appropriate caution." And entirely another to actively downplay the impact of vaccines on individual and collective risk profiles, long after a relatively clear picture emerged. That appears to be changing now, but slowly and probably too late to get some on board.

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    Pato del Muerto

    Posted

    Doesn’t help when a large group of people are happy to say both that the cdc is full of shit AND that the cdc guidelines prove that the vaccine is full of shit.  You can’t win for losing with these people. 

    Anastasis

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    Doesn’t help when a large group of people are happy to say both that the cdc is full of shit AND that the cdc guidelines prove that the vaccine is full of shit.  You can’t win for losing with these people. 

    Would help if the CDC wasn’t totally full of shit. 

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    Pato del Muerto

    Posted (edited)

    3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

    Would help if the CDC wasn’t totally full of shit. 

    Right, but either way people need to treat them the same. If you think they’re full of shit then you can’t decide the vaccine is useless just because they say to keep masking and distancing even after getting vaccinated.   Your position should be that the cdc is full of shit. 

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    markstanco

    Posted

    I apologize because I'm sure it's been discussed....

    My Pfizer shot #1 finally came through last week for this coming Thursday at 1030a. I have plans to go to my lease and run a tractor with a disc on back of it for 3 or 4 hours. From what I hear I may feel like shit.

    So it will be about 48 hours after. Thoughts?

    Edit: asking if those who have gone through it would be fine being outdoors and not in the cold sweats in bed.

    Surly Bevo

    Posted (edited)

    13 minutes ago, markstanco said:

    I apologize because I'm sure it's been discussed....

    My Pfizer shot #1 finally came through last week for this coming Thursday at 1030a. I have plans to go to my lease and run a tractor with a disc on back of it for 3 or 4 hours. From what I hear I may feel like shit.

    So it will be about 48 hours after. Thoughts?

    Edit: asking if those who have gone through it would be fine being outdoors and not in the cold sweats in bed.
     

    Test stuff (so the real science) says most side effects are typical 24-72 hours from vaccine.  Now anecdotal here so take with the appropriate grain of salt but including myself most people who I know that had any side effects that may have lead them to not wanting to do what you are planning to do popped up the day AFTER getting the vaccine and were gone when they woke up the next morning (ie between 24 and 48 hours). Also a lot of peeps I know were worse with second shot. I had same symptoms after both (tired/sleepy feeliing most of the next day along with cold/chills...though not really body racking chills just a feeling of being cold that was annoying for about 8-10 hours that same day after my shots).  I worked all that day so it wasn't terrible but I probably wouldn't have wanted to be out doing anything physical. 

    Also keep in mind the sore arm is a symptom from a science perspective and that is one thing most I have known said lasted 2-4 days, but nobody seems to have said it was that awful where it would halt your plans.  

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    XYZ

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    14 minutes ago, markstanco said:

    I apologize because I'm sure it's been discussed....

    My Pfizer shot #1 finally came through last week for this coming Thursday at 1030a. I have plans to go to my lease and run a tractor with a disc on back of it for 3 or 4 hours. From what I hear I may feel like shit.

    So it will be about 48 hours after. Thoughts?

    Edit: asking if those who have gone through it would be fine being outdoors and not in the cold sweats in bed.

    Prepare your anus.

    Hate

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, markstanco said:

    I apologize because I'm sure it's been discussed....

    My Pfizer shot #1 finally came through last week for this coming Thursday at 1030a. I have plans to go to my lease and run a tractor with a disc on back of it for 3 or 4 hours. From what I hear I may feel like shit.

    So it will be about 48 hours after. Thoughts?

    Edit: asking if those who have gone through it would be fine being outdoors and not in the cold sweats in bed.
     

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    Pato del Muerto

    Posted

    16 minutes ago, XYZ said:

    Prepare your anus.

    And disinfect the tractor seat. Those things are disease vectors apparently. 

    StruggleBus

    Posted

    53 minutes ago, markstanco said:

    I apologize because I'm sure it's been discussed....

    My Pfizer shot #1 finally came through last week for this coming Thursday at 1030a. I have plans to go to my lease and run a tractor with a disc on back of it for 3 or 4 hours. From what I hear I may feel like shit.

    So it will be about 48 hours after. Thoughts?

    Edit: asking if those who have gone through it would be fine being outdoors and not in the cold sweats in bed.
     

    I think it’s likely that you’re fine to do it after shot one. Shot 2 might be pushing it. Have you been diagnosed with covid before? That may play a role as well.

    For me, I was pretty fucked up from hours 12 to 16 after the second shot. I didn’t feel great from hours 16 to 36, but well enough to easily do what you’re talking about.

    markstanco

    Posted

    I think it’s likely that you’re fine to do it after shot one. Shot 2 might be pushing it. Have you been diagnosed with covid before? That may play a role as well.
    For me, I was pretty fucked up from hours 12 to 16 after the second shot. I didn’t feel great from hours 16 to 36, but well enough to easily do what you’re talking about.
    No, all good. Don't think I have had covid. Tested twice in the last year when feeling shitty.
    Armybrat

    Posted

    9 hours ago, gmr548 said:

    Of all people, I'd expect someone who lived through that to understand why it's a garbage comparison.

    I’d expect you folks here would have a working humor detector.

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    ABSR

    Posted

    14 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    And disinfect the tractor seat. Those things are disease vectors apparently. 

    Just don't ride it in your bathing suit!

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    Guest Lobo

    Posted

    And you call that 'The Tractor Story'?  

    lmao

    Posted

    Is there a thread for discussing the digital vaccine passports? The amount of privacy, security, practicality of them even being implemented correctly, etc., concerns is almost too long to list. 

    midtown

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, lmao said:

    Is there a thread for discussing the digital vaccine passports? The amount of privacy, security, practicality of them even being implemented correctly, etc., concerns is almost too long to list.

    That thread is literally right next to this one.  You don't even have to use search.  

    lmao

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, midtown said:

    That thread is literally right next to this one.  You don't even have to use search.  

    Thanks. I'm not very bright.

    midtown

    Posted

    43 minutes ago, lmao said:

    Thanks. I'm not very bright.

    As long as you are surly

    The Dog

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    Josh Allen going to need a bit more convincing...
     

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    gmr548

    Posted

    Josh Allen going to need a bit more convincing...
     

    “I’m a big stats/logic guy”

    *makes decision contrary to data*
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    Anastasis

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    PFE formally asks FDA to allow admin to 12-15 years olds under their EUA.  If you want to vaccinate your adolescent child prior to next school year, looks like you will have that opportunity. 

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    Message Board User

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    We're going to see this more and more, but Tarrant County today said their waitlist is "clear."

     

    Anastasis

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

    We're going to see this more and more, but Tarrant County today said their waitlist is "clear."

     

    And now the pivot to demand constraint. 

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