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  • I thought it might be helpful to have a separate topic related to the vaccine.  If this is too much duplication, mods please delete this thread.  I thought it would be good to talk about who can get the vaccine, where they can get it, what side effects people are seeing, and in general what is going on with distribution.

    The CDC has published vaccine distribution guidelines, and if you care, they are worth reading.  They are dividing the timeline into:

    • Phase 1 - Potentially limited supply of COVID-19 vaccine doses available
    • Phase 2 - Large number of vaccine doses available
    • Phase 3 - Sufficient supply of vaccine doses for entire population

    Who you are will determine if you are eligible for a vaccine in the various phases.

    Phase 1 is divided into a Phase 1a and a Phase 1b:

    • Phase 1a - Mostly healthcare workers
    • Phase 1b - Other essential workers, people with higher risks, people over 65

    If you are eligible to get the vaccine and they have in in stock and you want to get it, it is important to go get it.  Both of the first two vaccines can spoil, so if a dose is sitting there and you aren't there to get it, they might have to throw it away.

    Both vaccines require two shots.  It is important to go get that second shot.

    Who fits in phase 1b and who has to wait until phase 2 might be a sticking point.  The "people in higher risks" category includes a lot of folks, maybe more than you would think might be in that category.  Hopefully we can quickly get to phase 2 so that we don't spend too long arguing about who is or is not in Phase 1b.

    Anyway, I'm interested in everyone's experience with the vaccine and especially getting the word out for those that can go get it, so that every dose ends up in an arm rather than in the trash.

     

     


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    Neonmoon

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Adult in our house has been rocking a fever for 36 hours with a severe headache.

    Two rapid antigen test negatives, yesterday noon, today noon.

    I don't believe it.

    Maybe they need more cowbell? 

    jimmyjazz

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, slorch said:

    what good is  the testing, then?

    Her brother popped positive at 48 hours, same symptoms.  I wouldn't be surprised if these retail test kits struggle to pick up omicron earlier in the infection.  I'm making her stay locked up in her room, regardless.

    Guest

    Posted (edited)

    4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Her brother popped positive at 48 hours, same symptoms.  I wouldn't be surprised if these retail test kits struggle to pick up omicron earlier in the infection.  I'm making her stay locked up in her room, regardless.

    agreed, and wasn't meaning to question your situation; but rather the inexact results of much of the  testing.

    It's not uncommon at all to hear of 1 or 2 negatives and then they pop positive.  I think that might be a little part of your doubt too.

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    jimmyjazz

    Posted

    14 minutes ago, slorch said:

    agreed, and wasn't meaning to question your situation; but rather the inexact results of much of the  testing.

    It's not uncommon at all to hear of 1 or 2 negatives and then they pop positive.  I think that might be a little part of your doubt too.

    To elaborate, we know that antigen tests register 40% or more false negatives; i.e., a person with covid tests negative.

    If one tests positive on an antigen test, it's a pretty good bet they have covid.  Testing negative should not be interpreted with nearly so much confidence.

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    texhorn

    Posted


    I can’t speak to Pfizer/Moderna combo, but 2500 is super high. I scored like 750 in mid December after second Moderna in April and was scheduled for a booster this week but the Chron beat me to it. My only question is how/if a booster helps someone already at 2500.

    Same question here. Just popped another 2500+ on my 2nd cares draw. Not boosted yet. Last dose was in early February (2x moderna)
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    Austinvines

    Posted

    My wife tested lightly positive and one negative on rapid tests. She also got a pcr the same day that was negative. Three days later, she was clearly positive on a rapid. That was five days ago and I had a PCR today but won’t know for a day or two.

    We slept in the same bed all last week until Sunday night so I cannot believe I’d be negative but I am totally asymptomatic. She’s over the sniffles and slight cough. It did not slow her down at all.

    We both had our boosters recently and I will lord it over her if I continue to be negative.

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    Parliament

    Posted (edited)

    Coming up on 2 weeks treblevaxxed, which means all the 5G antibodies have kicked in?  Internet speed still sucks.  What the heck.

    Compared to the unvaxxed (zero shots), how much lower are my chances of getting sick, hospitalized or dying?

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    immortal13

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Parliament said:

    Coming up on 2 weeks treblevaxxed, which means all the 5G antibodies have kicked in?  Internet speed still sucks.  What the heck.

    Compared to the unvaxxed (zero shots), how much lower are my chances of getting sick, hospitalized or dying?

    About tree-fiddy

    StruggleBus

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, Parliament said:

    Coming up on 2 weeks treblevaxxed, which means all the 5G antibodies have kicked in?  Internet speed still sucks.  What the heck.

    Compared to the unvaxxed (zero shots), how much lower are my chances of getting sick, hospitalized or dying?

    Between 0 and 100% on all counts 

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    markstanco

    Posted

    I’m sure it’s been discussed upthread but got dang the Pfizer booster sucks ass. Got it at about 3 yesterday, and about 2a thru 7A I had to put drops in my eyes from being dry. Mouth dry as well but I keep water bedside. Pretty stopped up this morning early and then from about 10a until 4ish a terrible sinus headache. May have been a coincidence but I don’t get sinus headaches ever.

    Feeling better now except for my shoulder where it still feels like I got hit with a bat if I touch it on something.

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    Neonmoon

    Posted

     

    18 minutes ago, Parliament said:

    Coming up on 2 weeks treblevaxxed, which means all the 5G antibodies have kicked in?  Internet speed still sucks.  What the heck.

    Compared to the unvaxxed (zero shots), how much lower are my chances of getting sick, hospitalized or dying?

    A lot lower 

    https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/characteristics-of-vaccinated-patients-hospitalized-with-covid-19-breakthrough-infections/

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/15/health/cdc-covid-risk-higher-unvaccinated/index.html

    Deej

    Posted

    Damn near every single person I know is testing positive. Thankfully my immune system is a bigger asshole than I am. 

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    tbone_

    Posted

    Double Pfizer then Moderna booster. Promptly tested positive 3 weeks after booster.

    Symptoms day 1. Negative at home test day 2. Positive at home test x2 day 3 (Christmas Eve).

    Mayo on call RN on Christmas Eve says 50% false positive rate on in home tests. But since I have symptoms she’s betting it’s accurate. Says to come into Mayo to get real test for records.

    Test positive day 6 at Mayo Clinic.

    Had short fever evening of day three. Just cold symptoms other wise which are mostly gone now. Tested positive on at home test again today - day 8.

    No biggie because not doing shit until Monday - day 13. Takeaway is everyone on the planet will have left me the fuck alone for 10 days.

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    markstanco

    Posted

    Damn near every single person I know is testing positive. Thankfully my immune system is a bigger asshole than I am. 

    What county?
    Deej

    Posted

    Just now, markstanco said:


    What county?

    Travis

    Sawbonz

    Posted

    13 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

    Double Pfizer then Moderna booster. Promptly tested positive 3 weeks after booster.

    Symptoms day 1. Negative at home test day 2. Positive at home test x2 day 3 (Christmas Eve).

    Mayo on call RN on Christmas Eve says 50% false positive rate on in home tests. But since I have symptoms she’s betting it’s accurate. Says to come into Mayo to get real test for records.

    Test positive day 6 at Mayo Clinic.

    Had short fever evening of day three. Just cold symptoms other wise which are mostly gone now. Tested positive on at home test again today - day 8.

    No biggie because not doing shit until Monday - day 13. Takeaway is everyone on the planet will have left me the fuck alone for 10 days.

    Rapid antigen tests have a very low false positive rate. Problem is false negatives around 40%

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    markstanco

    Posted

    Travis

    Why are y’all spiking? I live in TXK (Bowie county) and most up here won’t vax for some reason which I know. It’s odd.
    3adays

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, Deej said:

    Travis

    I’m seeing the same thing in Travis.  Just a steady stream of folks from all walks of life catching it lately. 

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    tbone_

    Posted

    Rapid antigen tests have a very low false positive rate. Problem is false negatives around 40%

    That’s what I would have figured, but that’s not what Mayo is saying. Or at least said to me.
    Austinvines

    Posted

    11 hours ago, Austinvines said:

    My wife tested lightly positive and one negative on rapid tests. She also got a pcr the same day that was negative. Three days later, she was clearly positive on a rapid. That was five days ago and I had a PCR today but won’t know for a day or two.

    We slept in the same bed all last week until Sunday night so I cannot believe I’d be negative but I am totally asymptomatic. She’s over the sniffles and slight cough. It did not slow her down at all.

    We both had our boosters recently and I will lord it over her if I continue to be negative.

    PCR was negative. My immune system is a rock star. It will be interesting to see my third UT CARES draw to see if I have a natural antibody response that overwhelmed the virus, or if I slept in the same bed with my Covid+wife for over a week and just never got it. I was over the 2500 spike protein AB limit 3 weeks post-Moderna booster on 12/10/21.

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    SizzleChest

    Posted (edited)

    19 minutes ago, Austinvines said:

    PCR was negative. My immune system is a rock star. It will be interesting to see my third UT CARES draw to see if I have a natural antibody response that overwhelmed the virus, or if I slept in the same bed with my Covid+wife for over a week and just never got it. I was over the 2500 spike protein AB limit 3 weeks post-Moderna booster on 12/10/21.

    It's possible you 1) had the virus and it was eliminated quickly, or 2) it was Omicron and evaded PCR detection. PCRs are supposed to pick up any genetic material associated with the virus, but given Omicron's bizarre genetic profile, who knows.

    I caught a breakthrough right (PCR positive) about the time I got boosted, but had none of the classic COVID symptoms other than fever, chills, and aches.  This was pre-Omicron.  I hypothesized I actually had a flu virus lurking and that's what my symptoms were, but had enough COVID-19 virus in my system to flip a positive PCR. I re-tested negative on the same PCR less than week later.

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    Don Johnson

    Posted (edited)

    1 hour ago, Caponata said:

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    They already kind of have, with different quarantine recommendations for exposure.

    IMO, they need to tread lightly on this.  There are lots of people who gladly got the vaccine over 6 months ago, but haven't felt the need to get the booster yet.  You start telling those people they are going to be treated the same as unvaxxed unless they go get the booster right now, there's going to be backlash.  Especially if those people have tested for high antibody levels, or just had a mild case of Omicron.

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    Caponata

    Posted

    13 hours ago, Don Johnson said:

    They already kind of have, with different quarantine recommendations for exposure.

    IMO, they need to tread lightly on this.  There are lots of people who gladly got the vaccine over 6 months ago, but haven't felt the need to get the booster yet.  You start telling those people they are going to be treated the same as unvaxxed unless they go get the booster right now, there's going to be backlash.  Especially if those people have tested for high antibody levels, or just had a mild case of Omicron.

    Wonder what % of people on this board would support redefining what is considered vaccinated. 

    El Diablo

    Posted

    Got Moderna boosted 12 hours ago. No ill effects at all. Yet. 

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    Willfully Horn

    Posted

    My booster involved no ill effects. Not even a sore arm, unlike the first two shots. Moderna X 3. 

    DigglerontheHoof

    Posted

    On 12/22/2021 at 1:59 PM, Buzzrock said:

    Talked to a neighbor who had a sales call with the CEO of an Indiana hospital yesterday. He said they are at their highest number of admissions and 25-30 percent of them are vaccinated. Anecdotal of course but concerning.

    This is waaaaay off from everything I've read.  That seems like a very high percentage. 

    El Diablo

    Posted

    It may just be that with this more contagious variant we're getting a better picture of the effectiveness of the shot. 

    TexEx15

    Posted

    Booster 9/28. 2nd Texas Cares draw yesterday. Negative for prior infection. >2500.

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    PenelopeWitherspoon

    Posted

    25 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

    Booster 9/28. 2nd Texas Cares draw yesterday. Negative for prior infection. >2500.

    I need to see if there is a similar test here.  I have a phys at end of Jan and could ask for it then I suppose.

    williemackgarza

    Posted

    Just to update:
    Moderna 2 march 2021
    Booster Oct 2021
    Tx Cares Dec 10- no prior covid, S antibodies from vax +2500
    Covid symptoms Dec 23rd, mild for 24-36 hrs, loss of smell/taste
    Covid Positive test Dec 27th
    Covide negative test today, Dec 31

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    Guest Lobo

    Posted

    I hope I don't get Covid-19 tonight at this business function.  I'm arriving late, leaving early, and spending most of the time on the terrace.  

    God bless y'all.  We tried.  My family and I...we really fucking tried.  We did more than most.  And didn't do more than most.  If that makes sense. 

    I can't just say "Si Dios Quiere."  He knows that.  Take care of one another.  I'll see y'all in 2022.  

    Onward...Thru the Fog...

    Deej

    Posted

    Godspeed, Lobo.

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    Celery Man

    Posted

    48 minutes ago, Lobo said:

    I hope I don't get Covid-19 tonight at this business function.  I'm arriving late, leaving early, and spending most of the time on the terrace.  

    God bless y'all.  We tried.  My family and I...we really fucking tried.  We did more than most.  And didn't do more than most.  If that makes sense. 

    I can't just say "Si Dios Quiere."  He knows that.  Take care of one another.  I'll see y'all in 2022.  

    Onward...Thru the Fog...

    Give your feet an oat bath if you feel it coming on

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    crony

    Posted

    10 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

    Booster 9/28. 2nd Texas Cares draw yesterday. Negative for prior infection. >2500.

    Pfizer or Moderna? I had my booster that same date (Pfizer).

    TexEx15

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, crony said:

    Pfizer or Moderna? I had my booster that same date (Pfizer).

    Moderna

    Caponata

    Posted

    Should I get boosted? Under 40, JJ vaxxed, had covid (wasn't aware until I tested for antibodies). 

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    m00t607t

    Posted

    Picked this up Christmas Eve.   Been a shitty holiday.  This certainly isn't a "mild cold" but I'll live.....remarkable how scarce the tests are...I would kind of listen to this on the news before, and saw the "lines for testing going around the block" on the news, but "until it hits home" .......   Looking forward the immunity this affords me coming out the other side, but for now it's quarantine, "Z-Stack" and chill.

    Not a virologist, but I'm of the belief that everyone on the planet will be infected with some variant of this or two until its endemic like the other viruses and our life goes on.   Kind of arrogant to believe that MRNA or Astrazeneca are going to eradicate this thing with boosters.

    Wishing those who have contracted this and their families good strength and quick recoveries. 

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    Captainant

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, m00t607t said:

    Kind of arrogant to believe that MRNA or Astrazeneca are going to eradicate this thing with boosters.

    I don't think anyone serious has said that we will eradicate COVID. The whole point of the vaccines are to reduce severe illness and death through exposure to a defused version of the virus (J&J) or it's infection mechanism (mRNA vaxes), rather than fighting off the virus with a naive immune system

    Anastasis

    Posted

    49 minutes ago, Caponata said:

    Should I get boosted? Under 40, JJ vaxxed, had covid (wasn't aware until I tested for antibodies). 

     

    Yes, Moderna preferably. 

    Anastasis

    Posted

    47 minutes ago, m00t607t said:

    Not a virologist, but I'm of the belief that everyone on the planet will be infected with some variant of this or two until its endemic like the other viruses and our life goes on.   Kind of arrogant to believe that MRNA or Astrazeneca are going to eradicate this thing with boosters.

    I think omicron might get us there.  I fully expect to get infected.  It's just a matter of when, and how much it disrupts my schedule at this point.

    There is not eradication in play. Animal reservoirs and non-sterilizing vaccines. It's not even on the board at this point.  

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    Poe It Up

    Posted

    Yeah, it’s everywhere and everyone is going to get it. Pretty sure my wife has it, but we can’t get in to see a doc for a few days, so I guess we wait. The crazy part is we called all our friends to cancel our New Year’s eve party and… they were having none of it, people are really looking to party. 

    htown85

    Posted

    I don’t understand the point in canceling anything anymore. It is what it is.

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    XYZ

    Posted

    1 hour ago, m00t607t said:

    Kind of arrogant to believe that MRNA or Astrazeneca are going to eradicate this thing with boosters.

    Nobody believes that.

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    Cement

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Caponata said:

    Should I get boosted? Under 40, JJ vaxxed, had covid (wasn't aware until I tested for antibodies). 

    Not necessary and don't let anybody bully you into getting one, unless you have a health condition or over 50...unless your goal is to avoid ANY illness or mild cold.

    We've lost our fucking minds freaking out over testing positive when all of us are going to get it at some point.  

    And all of this bullshit of boosting everyone is ultimately killing our ability to fight off Covid worldwide.

     

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    XYZ

    Posted

    This is what I would like to know: out of everybody that has gotten covid with at least moderate symptoms and who are not immunocompromised, what percentage has gotten it more than once, WITH SYMPTOMS? It has to be a positive test AND symptoms.

    scottsins

    Posted

    Not necessary and don't let anybody bully you into getting one, unless you have a health condition or over 50...unless your goal is to avoid ANY illness or mild cold.
    We've lost our fucking minds freaking out over testing positive when all of us are going to get it at some point.  
    [/url] And all of this bullshit of boosting everyone is ultimately killing our ability to fight off Covid worldwide.
     

    Interesting. What line of work are you in? I ask because Anastasis seems to have the diametrically opposite view on this specific point.
    statsman

    Posted

    While we’re asking questions- do people that got it once, with manageable symptoms, ever get it again with a bad case (hospital or death)?

    Surly Bevo

    Posted

    Just now, statsman said:

    While we’re asking questions- do people that got it once, with manageable symptoms, ever get it again with a bad case (hospital or death)?

    I mean people get the flu a lot and then at some point for whatever reason it kills them (usually when they are old or something else bad is going on) so I think would be safe to assume like that respiratory infection the same has/will hold true here.




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