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Of course he did. And if Bill did too, then both of them need to be buried under the jail with her.

Lol if you think Rand Paul's brow is furrowed.

Well yeah. They created the Trump Godzilla by constantly attacking Dems over bullshit. They nuked bikini island when Obama and Clinton were President, and now Trump has risen out of the waters. Now they have created Mechagodzilla to fight Trump Godzilla. For sure, Mechagodzilla is going to come destroy the city after it gets done with Trump. Everyone knows that. Dems need to bring in at least Mothra.

Unless you are 100 years old yourself, I find that doubtful. But I am glad to see you are finding comparisons between that gestapo and this one. We can still stop this in the early stages. Personally, I still see Gestapo in Bastropo. As dumb as that shit was at the time, the sign was legendary.

That's cool. So as a conservative, what are your thoughts? Obviously you felt safe enough to be there and bring your girlfriend there, so that means a lot of the fears being broadcast on Fox are bullshit. Also, we have rules here. Someone is missing from your pic.

Maybe I missed it somewhere, but are you actually there?

Its all they ever cared about since this country was founded. They'd rather have property vote than people. In the past, they would have possibly considered allowing property to vote based on value, but not anymore. Have you seen Manhattan land values? Now they'd prefer that property vote by the acre with value not being a consideration. Manhattan is tiny. Also, renters don't get to vote. Property owners only. If you rent, your landlord votes for the land you live on.

You are probably talking to someone that thought all Muslims needed to die for 911. Collective punishment for individual acts has been the fascist calling card for centuries. Its easy to use that tactic against a peaceful populist uprising as well. People are people. A percentage have mental illnesses. Others will join a group just because they want to cause problems. If 20,000 people are doing something, you can be sure that some of them are going to actually be up to no good, and some others will be legitimately mentally ill. Even if a handful of assholes actually tried to murder some people in a federal building (didn't happen), that doesn't mean that other protesters are complicit. Yankee Stadium holds 54,000 fans. They host 81 home games a year. Police are on scene at every single game and multiple arrests occur at every single game. Yet nobody blames all fans collectively. Most of them were there to watch the game and not to start a brawl in the stands.

Yeah, but all that shit is occurring on Trump's watch. If you think Portland is a violent hellhole right now and you think the President is somehow responsible for local violence, then you should blame Trump for it. None of this shit happened under Obama. Not even according to Fox News' bullshit interpretation. So if you don't want current things to continue occurring, then why would you vote for the current administration?

Huh. Hillary never shut up. She fell right into Trump's gotcha traps several times because of it. She also never shut up while campaigning in states like Texas when Michigan and PA were where she needed to be. Biden will need to go on the offensive at some point, but he certainly shouldn't do it right now. Trump is self immolating. Biden may want to throw gas on the fire, but he'd be far more likely to accidentally throw water on it. Confucius Bonaparte once said never interrupt your enemy when he is rolling around in his own shit, or something like that.

https://ktvz.com/news/oregon-northwest/2020/07/20/federal-officers-use-tear-gas-as-fire-set-at-portland-federal-courthouse/#:~:text=PORTLAND%2C Ore.,demonstrators to drive them away. Protesters did set a fire in the portico of the federal courthouse early yesterday morning, but not inside the building. However, the gestapo descended on Portlando last week so yesterday's fire could not possibly be the justification for their invasion. Unless JBJ works for the pre-crimes unit.

People that support collective punishment for the actions of individuals always make the dumb arguments that JBJ is trying to make. It happened with 911 where JBJs wanted all Muslims punished for the acts of a few. It happened when Trayvon Martin's death was justified because other black people committed crimes at an allegedly higher rate thereby justifying Zimmerman's suspicions. It happened when all Mexicans and all immigrants were blamed because a few, among millions, happened to be actual criminals. For patriots and supposed rugged individualists like JBJ, only white conservative people get to roll around armed without taking any collective responsibility at all for Dylan Roof and other shitheads like him. They can also protest at the Michigan state capitol and take no collective responsibility for the windows that were broken there. Memaw was just screaming at a cop. She shouldn't be arrested because a few bad actors broke some windows. No, those bad actors are the only ones responsible for the broken windows. I actually agree with this stance, FWIW. However, it isn't applied across the board by JBJ or the powers that be because they are all hypocrites.

1) He looks like the guy from CSI: Miami. 2) He's right. Crime never goes up because of poverty or unemployment. Most people are willing to starve to death peacefully before they would consider theft an option.

We have the best response in the world. We only have more cases because we test. I have a kid here today, Johnny. Johnny caught it at day care a month ago and he is just fine. No symptoms at all like most patriots. Johnny's grandma had some mild flu like symptoms shortly afterward. She got tested for covid and died from it a week later. Testing kills folks. Without the test, grandma would have just had a mild case of the flu. And Johnny is ready to go back to school, aren't you Johnny? He says he isn't contagious. So does Kelly Anne over there with him at her house. Johnny couldn't come to the White House today because of covfefe. Kelly Anne, I will see you after your two week vacation.

This is way more assholish than I intend it to be so I apologize in advance. Unscrupulous people took advantage of uncertainty? No way! Its awesome that we live in a totally different time where nobody ever tries to swindle anyone. When people talk about covid in the future, they won't understand how many Americans ordered masks that never arrived. When future people talk about the internet, they won't understand about the plight of a million Nigerian princes.

An Islamic terrorist bombing is incomparable. Yes, 911 made us fearful nationwide. But lynching happened with a complicit government and law enforcement. Its infinitely worse than Islamic terrorism where all government and law enforcement are also against it. Islamic terrorism made us feel unsafe sometimes in public places but we felt safe at home and generally. Lynching is so much worse than that. It was state sanctioned.

They are. Also, Portland is probably the whitest city in the US. They were targeted by the feds deliberately. Ultimately, this has always been an urban/rural divide. Its true that urban areas have failed at controlling PD unions. Its time for state and national governments to allow municipalities to control municipal entities. We pay all the taxes. We get no mental or physical health funding. No infrastructure funding. No education funding. Instead, our security forces get money whipped with our money against our will. Sure, urban areas don't produce much food, but I could buy all the produce in Iowa more cheaply if I bought it from a warlord.

Even as a kid I saw it work directly in my favor. I had an unorthodox upbringing to say the least and had some unique but perhaps unfair advantages, but by kindergarten, I was also a poor white kid that grew up in a black neighborhood in 80s and 90s Houston. Back then, a gang did run the neighborhood. And one thing I saw is that my black friends were pressured to join it and I wasn't. And most of them did and later faced issues because of it. Also pressured is way too light of a word to describe the actual pressure they faced. That's not to say that I never faced issues or never did dumb shit. I did. But I was never a member of a gang and just being a member was damn near a prison sentence.

Kid has a hell of a grip. Should have had her in at safety instead of Blake Gideon.

the president shared intelligence that compromised their people. They have zero reason to trust us. I don't disagree with that take either. I understand Israel's position completely. Its our position that makes no sense.

One off? This sounds like someone who isn't ready for the President Kid Rock administration.

Old habits die hard.

Mom?

So now its Israel national security we care about? Sure, Israel will happily eat our pork. No argument there. Saudi Arabia eats it too. Even though pork isn't kosher or halal. Why wouldn't they? We give shit away for free. And maybe we are interested in Israeli national security. But we are less interested in our own national security. If we were, Israel wouldn't need to develop new avionics for our privately made, entirely US public funded, airplanes. And also, if Israel's avionics were better, which they seem to be, we should use them ourselves if we really gave a shit about national security. The real problem with our "national security" is that we've only really been insecure one time since 1812 and that is when we were fighting ourselves. We don't really know what national security actually means. We think its awesome to pay an exorbitant amount for a fighter jet. And it looks cool when its bombing overmatched warlords who still use 70s era Soviet weapons. Meanwhile China and Russia probably already know how to take down our F-35. That's why Israel wants their own variant which they won't share with us.

This. And they are only 1 or 2 supreme court justices away from the rubber stamp there as well. Right now, the only real check has been long term bureaucrats. That worked in Trump's first 2 to 3 years, but has started to really falter in the last year or so as attrition has set in. Any executive order that Trump issued right now would likely be followed and would not be challenged in a reasonable time frame. This includes a potential Trump executive order authorizing immediate deportation for any past DACA recipients. Perhaps they would later have legal right to reenter the USA, but in the short term (which could still be years), they'd be deported to a country they don't even know. Personally, while I support DACA, I think the bigger issue is with Trump's attempts to retroactively change laws and regulations. The intent of DACA was to bring people out of the shadows. Those who took the DACA "deal" should not be punished for doing so. While I would still disagree with it, I could respect new laws and regulations which disallow new DACA registrations while still honoring the deal made with past DACA recipients. I can't respect the bullshit Trump does. A deal is a deal. He is dishonorable in his dealings, and because of that, he has made America dishonorable. DACA is only one of 100s of ways he has made our nation completely untrustworthy.