krutov

is this some kind of conspiracy theory? he had no such mandate to just investigate these guys. mueller had a mandate to investigate russian collusion by the trump campaign. even with rosenstein's secret memo, the mandate to pursue manafort collaterally is bootstrapped from that original publicly stated mandate. the mueller team claims their investigation within their mandate led them to manafort's collateral crimes. and how was trump protecting these guys?

are you suggesting the hillary and mueller investigations are comparable in terms of tactics or zeal?

i go by the months of interview requests and the "not a target" representation, to conclude mueller has finished investigating (subject to flipping more people) and has nothing on trump. i can't rule out that mueller has something on members of the trump inner circle but to the extent they remain in place at the wh with security clearance i think you can assume there are no sealed indictments. i think there may be some bullshit conspiracy charges coming if he gets convictions on the russians, but if the charges are what i think they will be, they will be process crimes dressed up as a conspiracy and they will not hunt. as for "potus" didn't want the crimes of flyy and manafort investigated, now you are heading off into obstruction territory. i won't be joining you on that journey until i see something resembling an overt act by the potus to interfere with an investigation. every potus wants you to go easy on his people. what comey claims trump said has been out in the public domain for a long time and it won't hunt either.

you seem disingenuous.

i think the history books will question why mueller went so aggressively after a duly elected potus without an actual crime to investigate. they will wonder why he pursued collateral prosecutions of papadopolous, gates, flynn and manafort, and even went so far as to threaten charges against gates' son in order to "flip" these guys when he didn't know whether potus was guilty of a crime in the first place. they will wonder why the fact mueller still has no evidence to make trump a target after flipping three guys has not stopped him from pursuing manafort aggressively as well to try and flip him. they may also know better than us how much mueller is behind the cohen stuff. in short, they will wonder who gave mueller a mandate to behave like trump was john giotti. and they will contrast that treatment to what comey gave clinton and shake their heads at how thoroughly the fbi and doj lost its way here. and while we are speaking of indictments, go read the mueller indictment of the russians again. the only thing worse than the conspiracy theories you idiots have been exchanging on trump for the past 18 months, are the federal conspiracy laws that guys like mueller rely upon to stretch the criminal law beyond recognition.

i said "most". so that fool can't be me.

trolls meaning people who disagree with you? please fill me in on the bullshit facts i have mentioned?

so campaign rhetoric is a crime now? not only was it legal it was entirely fair comment on what a brazen lawless creature hillary clinton was and is. the fact you would even object to that makes you a fool or a troll. i'll grant you he does seem a little rapey though.

your judgment on what is fun to speculate about is kind of suspect.

the fbi currently claims it opened an investigation in the summer of 2016. it may well have been earlier. you guys are idiots on the wrong side of history with this collusion bullshit. and most of you pulled a lever for hillary clinton too. as such you are twice proven to be credulous fools with zero judgment.

i am shocked you would come to a completely wrong conclusion that supports your bias based on your vivid imagination and no evidence at all. shocked.

you mean like if some dude stole a bike and then offered to sell it to me and i knew it was stolen and i talked to him and then decided not to buy it? because i did that once in grade school. it's only a criminal conspiracy in the mind of a federal prosecutor.

got me over 50 posts.

so 51 not 50?

you are getting desperate.

mind-bottling

if by "everything manafort will testify to" you mean you think mueller already knows manafort has evidence of collusion by trump, then wouldn't that make trump a target? seems like mueller is fishing by putting pressure on cohen and manafort because that's all he's got. he'd be indicting other people if he could just to rally the bots. at this point even hugo is harbouring doubts,

janos slynt maybe

but flynn

his job is to be an impartial grown up and sort this russia shit out. his job is not to get the elected potus at all costs. in fact, his job is to proactively peel off any shady potus guys that are not positively connected to the potus. his job is also to give the potus the benefit of the doubt and gracefully exit if he has nothing. he will lose everything if he oversteps that mandate. he seems to understand that, which is why he let the doj handle all the cohen crap. cab medallions would be over the line.

he can try. but tar and feathers and a rail is a real possibility if he does. and i'm not being metaphoric.

if you did this kind of investigation to any administration since j q. adams you'd have that even without the kafkesque laws being employed to conjure crimes here. but nobody hired a special counsel to look for financial crimes.

sure. or that. but we are over two years into the investigation of trump campaign collusion. mueller has been begging for an interview for months because he's finished and has nothing. right now mueller is trying to use any coercive power he can find to "flip" cohen and manafort like the desperate amoral hack he is. but he doesn't have an actual crime to flip them for. he's just hoping nopt to be an even bigger buffoon than starr. but there is no there there.

if new evidence is discovered. at which point mueller would have to apprise trump's lawyers of the status change or terminate interview negotiations

trump knowingly cooperating with a foreign state to commit an actual illegal act before the election.