Most people I know, including myself, had turned it off by that point. I was not getting anything out of it, my vote is decided. I’m hoping that undecideds stayed tuned in longer to have witnessed the devastation.
By the time I turned it off, I thought it was basically a no-op and my wife (also a decided voter) thought Vance performed better than Walz. She is not as politically informed and so without any fact checking, it was a he-said, she-said to her, with Vance saying it “better” or at least more polished. He probably also gets a lift just by not being Trumpesque in his communication style. She said she’s glad Vance isn’t the one running for President.
I was a bit disappointed in Walz, to be honest. He looked somewhat uncomfortable while I was watching and while he did call Vance on his BS often, it just came across as two kids blaming each other for various messes after their parents came home. He’s a lot like Trump in that he’s top notch in a rally setting where it’s about intensity and emotion and conveying passionate belief in your cause and evoking that in others, but debating isn’t his strong suit.
Maybe the J6 stuff at the end moves the needle with undecideds, but I think last night will be a push with neither side taking any new ground.