I see the problem, can you spot it? The improper use of word makes some of us wonder if you know what an AR is or what AR means. “Shit, the issues we are all discussing and debating right now in terms of regulation/not regulation are for modern high-capacity combat-type weapons like the AR-15.” Calling it a combat type weapon, or “AW” is wrong as well. What you suggest is intellectually dishonest. For a combat style weapon (more than one bullet for a single trigger pull), a person: Must not be classified as a “prohibited person.” Be at least 21 years of age to purchase a machine gun from the current owner. Be a legal resident of the United States. Be legally eligible to purchase a firearm. Pass a BATFE background check with a typical process time of 8 to 10 months. Pay a one-time $200 transfer tax. (You’ll need a stamp for each machine gun.) This is if you want to follow the law. Just like everything else man has made, on his short existence on this blue marble, some people (mental or criminal), don’t give a rats ass about the law. And that is the problem. Not lack of laws. Murder is against the law, and that doesn’t stop some from using cars, planes, or whatever else a bad guy uses. No one suggests further restrictions or banning of those items on the law abiding. Is it the look of a combat weapon? Stick with its function. High capacity????? WTF, more word play. Most, if not all here (yes we are a collective of degenerates) follow the law and to a high degree, and it’s our job to police our fellow citizens, or we’re the bad guy? Fuck off with this shit! The question is how do you stop a bad person from obtaining inanimate objects and doing bad things while not forcing more and more hoops to jump through onto most law abiding citizens. Figure that out and the world will truly be safe! Until then, most of us have weapons to hunt, and or for protection/self-defense. Hell, some may even find it as a hobby just to collect. It’s not for me, you, or the rest of Surly gun shame. Upthread, as someone pointed out, this is not a topic for a real discussion. Others have even pointed out, this is not that thread, and there is a thread specifically for that.