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Nicole44

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  1. Well written speech from Biden in Oval Office. Reframed as each side has different visions for America. Resolve our differences with the ballot box not with bullets. Reframed as he has a different vision for American than the other side. No longer saying existential crisis or Trump great threat, just that the other side has an agenda and vision that will impact America for years to come. It’s the importance of democracy in his vision not any longer that Trump is the threat to it. Just that Trump has a different vision, well written.
  2. Put me on ignore then.
  3. In the absence of information from SS the conspiracy theories will continue to grow. MOST (not all) of the time conspiracy theories are the hobgoblin of little minds…but information needs to be forthcoming. my best guess is SS + LE of PA incompetence. SS should have better overseen what PA LE was doing. I do not however believe that SS, PA LE, etc formed some conspiracy with Trump so he could be “shot at and mildly grazed” and one dead and others injured. Which could have been SS in the crowd, Sen McCormick, photographers and press members and other LE. You can’t convince me otherwise. Trump got a great moment with that great photo that was taken by a brave photographer. That great moment only continue depending on how he ACTS from here on out. Jmo. But conspiracy away. I mean this was such a fucking fail it lends itself to all sorts of speculation.
  4. So you’ll bet $40 with me?
  5. So Trump allegedly scrapped his convention speech bc it had too much harsh rhetoric. And there will be an entirely new speech written. Totally different approach. Different bullet points. sorry couldn’t resist. we live in weird times. Biden’s Oval Office address is like 2 hours away. That will be a well written speech. How long will the vast majority of both sides keep up the veil of niceness and calmness? Anyone want to bet? I’m good for $40 but that’s all I can spare man. I’m not talking about a pundit here or there or a rando detractor. The main people in both parties. How long will it last? 3 days. 3 hours. 3 weeks. How long?
  6. Look the President addresses from the Oval Office in a bit tonite. The ball goes back in Trump’s court to see if HE ESPECIALLY can tone down the rhetoric and act presidential and encourage most of his speakers at the convention to do the same. It’s a win for Biden at this point unless Trump can tone down the vast majority of the rhetoric and deliver a peaceful and hopeful convention. So this actually works in Biden’s favor, he gives strong Oval Office address which will be praised asking for rhetoric to die down and both sides to do this. Passes the ball to Trump. All eyes on him to see if he can meet the challenge. It’s a good move for Biden, and it buys time with his detractors who are divided,
  7. Best time to go to the concessions or bathroom when your favorite long standing band says, “here’s a new song we just wrote.” Nope.
  8. That crowd was around 15,000 they said on MsNBC. But it should have been held indoors. I mean allegedly people go to these rallies hours in advance to get a spot to park and get thru security and get spot near stage and it’s gawd awful hot. You couldn’t pay to stand out there for a fucking concert of my favorite artists much less a damn rally.
  9. Biden to address the country from the Oval Office tonite. Closest to fireside chat as it gets. Will he be seated at the desk? I think that’s a good move. He already gave two briefings standing at a podium.
  10. Consoler-in-chief is an amazing role to have. Reagan after the space shuttle speech. A chance to have the fireside chat. Talk about us acting like adults. The grandfatherly thing works here. he can say stop acting like spoiled children and listen to me do have a lot of life experience. Let’s be better together. That should be the message. Let’s be better people. And then hold his breath to see how long the truce lasts. Both sides will. Hold their breath.
  11. It’s the upside down world. Basically. Some time rift happened during the shooting and conservatives and liberals traded places in the upside down land, i guess. If Trump starts being nice to everyone and shit we will know shits gone terribly wrong
  12. I disagree with Gene. Jmo. I await the SS presser. This is all being taken very seriously. Gene is just ticked that the “you come at the king you best not miss” moment was Biden doing a decent press conference. Until yesterday. now Trump has that moment. i know people hate Trump. He’s the reason I left the Republican Party. I get it. But given the level of agencies involved and given how seriously this is being taken I highly doubt this was a staged assassination attempt to make Trump more “popular.” I thought this actually helps Biden. His own party was pummeling him the both fists for the past two weeks and the shooting actually made that all go away for a couple of days. Possibly permanently. I think this actually gave Biden a chance to regroup and keep his own party from their malicious attacks on him. A chance to give press briefings and be the consoler in chief. Jmo. Maybe the attacks stop permanently on Biden. who knows? I thought the assassination attempt actually helps Biden more. But I guess we will see what we will see. I don’t think it was a staged assassination attempt. But it’s still a free country and people can think what they want.
  13. Interesting read: views from around the world regarding assassination attempt https://www.semafor.com/article/07/13/2024/world-reacts-donald-trump-apparent-shooting-shock-questions-democracy “Beijing expressed “condolences” in a brief statement issued by the foreign ministry, but speculation proliferated on the messaging platform WeChat over the motives for the attack, as well as its implications for this year’s election. In China, the top comment on a post by the state-run People’s Daily amplified the phrase, “America the free, every day a shooting.” (Some enterprising online sellers quickly began selling souvenir t-shirts about the shooting on the shopping site Taobao, the South China Morning Post reported.)” Very Trumplike to immediately begin selling tshirts. Enterprising.
  14. Jorts or shorts? Jorts appear to be the choice of the homebound types.
  15. Secret Service is going to hold a briefing in Milwaukee in the next hour. FYI. Milli-wok-eh
  16. I have those moments of disconnect. Except yesterday I was flipping channels and it was on the rally and I went to do something real quick out of the room and intended to change the channel bc I don’t like any rallies. I wanted to watch political discussion since I’ve been glued to the news since the debate bc of all the discourse. I’m grabbing the remote and I look up and hear screaming and he’s down and I thought he fell off the stage and then hit rewind and heard the pops. I think my disconnect would have been like yours if I hadn’t seen it happen live. It’s surreal feeling though. Like being in a fog. The disconnect is real.
  17. I figure the SS knew there was no further danger and were enacting the protocol plus he’d been hit. At first I thought he was hit through the face and maybe hit in the arm as well. But the crowd and the photographers couldn’t know there wasn’t another event. I keep watching the crowd, some of them just sitting there with no reaction. It’s fucking weird.
  18. Have you been a secret service officer at other events? I thought about the shoe moment. He’s a heavy guy. And he was not steady on his feet. Shoes on or off or halfway off, that flimsy podium nearly toppled. It did appear that the however man agents were kinda struggling to keep him upright and also form a protective circle around him to shield him. And get him moving. That stop to get his shoes on (if that ever happened) gave them the ability to better prop him up. it is stunning to see it replayed and the press photographers continuing to take pictures with no concern for their safety. Half the people thinking it was fireworks and he fell. The other half either watching in slowmo horror or filming with their phones or watching the shooter get cancelled. It’s weird rewatching that moment. Because some people are just sitting there as though nothing just happened. Or that nothing else was about to happen.
  19. Yes. Everyone should have had the opportunity to sit in on at least one class. His love for teaching and his love and ridiculous knowledge of American history is imo unparalleled. UT legend. I was in awe of him. His classes were fucking packed.
  20. I don’t know if any of you took an American history course at UT taught by Professor George Forgie (let me tell you you missed the fuck out.) his classes were like going to theater on the history of the US. Anyway, one of my favorite classes was on the assassination attempt on Andrew Jackson. Forgie acted out the whole attempt while quoting a passage from a book. His classes were legendary. I took every single class he had. A link to George Forgie: https://notevenpast.org/celebrating-george-forgie/ “On a cold, wet January day in 1835, an unemployed house painter named Richard Lawrence hid behind a pillar at the entrance to the Capitol Rotunda. He awaited the arrival of an important Capitol visitor—President Andrew Jackson—who was attending a congressional funeral. As the president approached, Lawrence stepped forward, raised a derringer single-shot pistol, took careful aim at Jackson’s heart, and fired. The cap exploded, noise and smoke filled the air, but the powder failed to ignite. Misfire! The aging president was in ill health, forced to lean on a colleague and use a cane, but he remained defiant. As Lawrence pulled a second pistol and again took aim, Jackson charged his assailant with cane held high. Lawrence pulled the trigger. Again, misfire! Quickly, bystanders tackled the would-be assassin to the floor while the president was hustled away. Jackson was saved from the first known attempt to assassinate a U.S. president.” ——————
  21. 2 minutes until Biden speaks/ briefing I guess. Not really a press conference but a status update,
  22. Well considering the track record in Texas for keeping Presidents safe…. I would also imagine many upcoming events will be curtailed or canceled. Plus, if he came to Austin traffic would suck Monday, Getting downtown for me is always a struggle. I have free time tomorrow and I wanted to go check out the new safety measures and path near Rainey that’s recently been completed. Gotta check stuff out. Maybe bring my big ass ladder. Are we are going to have to do that Pope mobile thing with Biden/Harris and Trump/VP candidate?
  23. Agreed. We can all do better. I wish that would start today but it won’t. It’s like I felt for a week or so after 9/11. As a country it seemed as though we were unified. For a brief moment in time it opened up what could be possible. There is so much ugliness. So much hate and blame. It is depressing. I’ve tried to purge a lot of that from my life. It’s not that I don’t get angry, bc I do. I wish the vast majority of those of us with some common sense could build on this moment to find common ground. But I obviously live in a fantasy land. a fantasy land where taking my ten foot ladder to Rainey…I mean football games will no longer be possible. Fuck it.
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