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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
This is btw Joe’s first solo press conference since November 2023. I really hope he steps aside for his sake. It will be a barrage of questions from this crowd. They feel as Jake Tapper is saying pissed and lied to, this is not going to be pretty. He can stop the bleeding by taking control. Saying he is stepping aside. Not taking questions. It will be sad af if he does. Jake Tapper saying a longtime Biden adviser texted Jake that this adviser is mad at the inner circle and perfect storm of an echo chamber that is biting them all in the ass. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
He has facial hair though. Lol. Isn’t that a no no? Trump said the other night: Bergum or whatever has a near abortion ban in his state and that’s an issue. So he gone. Don Jr is deeply threatened that Rubio would launch a coup once Trump is elected and have Trump impeached. Don likes Vance. Trump did say that even though Rubio is also from Florida it is not a huge deal to him. Probably picks Vance but who really knows. He could see dandruff on one candidate and make his decision based on that. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
Up to 14 Dem Lawmakers now calling on Biden to step aside. are we all going to be watching his conference together? Because this whole thing sucks and is sad. I credit surly for giving me the best memes and gifs that I dazzle my friends with, I need some good ones. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
So his inner circle has been described as largely family. Did the circle ⭕️ think if it is TRULY that fucking bad with Biden’s decline that they could prop him up until the inauguration? Or now just through November? Are they really that fucking stupid that they thought it would work? Or is he just defiant and they are going along with him? Like I don’t understand. He could have stepped fucking down last year. He didn’t need to run again, a healthy robust primary would have benefited the country and the party. If this solely about foreign policy? Or his legacy? He’s about to take a wrecking ball to it. you don’t think the powers that be have even worse stuff on him from the last year and a half they are prepared to use against him and his family? If he digs in further? The inner circle ⭕️ have been putting out bullshit since last year. Right now it really feels like Rogue One: Democrats. To get to Star Wars: A New Hope they have to detonate Biden and his inner circle. It would be helpful if his inner circle would stop this. But we don’t know how defiant they are. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
The gloves are off. It’s going to get much worse than this if he stays in. Much worse. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
One small caveat: I don’t think Melania gives a fuck. If Trump died. Oh well. If he loses. oh well. If he wins…she probably likes this the least of the three and would be hoping for him to step aside soon after winning. They had to drag her into the WH. Make her decorate for Christmas. We saw that inspiration. She has no interest in being in the WH whatsoever. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
He said he was told he doesn’t need one. Isn’t going to take one. Every day is a cognitive test for him. His words. And those in his tiny inner circle fighting the results which may be really damning if they don’t already know how damning the results will be. Again pure speculation. On my part. This isn’t a fight he can win and they will make sure he doesn’t. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
And there lies the rub. It’s like him, Fetterman, the CHC and the CBC and his family and a few others vs the machine, the elites, possibly Obama, Clinton, BMDs. That won’t go well for him ultimately, it’s just very sad. A fight where the outcome has already been decided. How much he fights will determine how much damage they will inflict to get him to step aside. NYT is suggesting that the elites/they/TPTB insist on him taking a cognitive test very soon and have all the results released or “they” will not support him. And will go on the offensive against him. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
Good question. The Powers That Be. If “they” want you gone you are gone. Biden has said since the debate “they” want him out. He means I think the party elites. Big money donors. As a long suffering Longhorn fan we know all about BMDs. But when they want you gone at Texas your ass is gone. It does appear if they can’t get him to step aside by Monday they will have no problem using his staff or anyone else other than his family to destroy him. Up to and including 25th amendment. But fuck I have no idea. I just know there are bigger people than those named both here and abroad that are finished with the Biden campaign. What you see happening with rank and file is disbelief, grief, fear and disappointment with how this is being done and they can’t stop it. He can’t run this way. NYT: some advisers discussing HOW to convince Biden to step aside. He knows if he makes it to the convention he’s safe. You wouldn’t be able to get 3949 delegates to just not vote for him. They are going to nuke him for the greater good if he and Jill and whoever continue to fight. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
Gloves are off. A new report (rumors of one) is that when he would meet with Cabinet officials staff would ask for bullet points ahead of time of what would be discussed in upcoming meetings and he would refer to cards addressing each bullet point. The gloves are off. They asked him politely to step aside. Maybe for months. He said no. They encouraged an early debate and it went poorly. They let the press beat him up for the better part of ten days. All the while talking him up as a person and a president asking him to think of his legacy. He told them to fuck off. Donors are freezing their donations. He told them to fuck off. There is no way this doesn’t go poorly tonite if he is as bad off as the newest round of reports that will hit the press if he doesn’t step aside in his presser tonite. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
Pritzker or Moore. That depends on how long Biden keeps fighting. I have thought about this the last 72 hours especially in light of Clooney’s piece and possible approval from Obama. Obama has visit d the White House they said on NPR something like 130 times in the Biden presidency. Math ain’t my thing but that’s a lot. If anyone as able to see the decline in Biden it would be him. It’s not like he could go to the press and say Biden needs to step down now. He may have tried to influence him for several months to step aside. And was unsuccessful so he encouraged Biden to call for an early unprecedented debate knowing it would go poorly for Biden. So bc of the July 4th holiday the press started feeding off Biden while Dems kept saying what a wonderful man, public servant and President he’s been in the hopes he would step aside. This didn’t work so now the next phase of the attack on him. If he stands strong tonite the attacks will be brutal the gloves which had mostly been on will come off and they do not care if it destroys him. It all depends on Biden. all of this moo I don’t know shit absolutely it shit obviously. Watching as a concerned person citizen. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
I think it’s already over but the shouting (on Biden’s part): everything suggests that if they have to go ugly they will to pressure him off the stage. Possibly just waiting for NATO to leave town. They will do whatever it takes to force him to step aside. Including and not limited to destroying his legacy. They are ready and waiting for whatever occurs tonite. Shit Clooney (via Obama) already said today who he feels the replacement should be and it ain’t Kamala. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
I really wish if the people who want him gone would ALL come together in one moment and do this swiftly. As many of us have mentioned this slow drip, drip, drip, and this newly mouthed word salad that continues to happen from those on the Hill is weak and pathetic and quite frankly pussy. Either finish come together in one voice and finish off his chances for a run OR get behind Kamala. It’s not that hard for me. At all. I don’t think he can run 4 more years. And I’m not sure he can run at this pace for the next few months. But as many have said it is about the party and voting against Trump. This slow taking potshots at him on a daily basis is sad. It is devoid of courage. Either have the courage to tell him to go or have the courage to fight for him to stay. This middle of the road show us more is bullshit. This is heartbreaking to watch for many of us. The middle of the road afraid to speak their mindset is the equivalent of the below: -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
I think bc all of his predecessors at this point in their presidencies have had double the number of pressers (modern era.) Last night flipping around channels one strategist I saw cautioned not to set the bar too high for this. All indications are Biden is continuing to fight on. The wait and see more shitshow crowd is getting to see more of him ensuring every single appearance is ranked and rated against the debate. Keep showing us they keep saying! For those who want him gone they need to speak as plainly as Fetterman has been when advocating on Biden’s behalf or they need to shut the fuck up. Don’t speak at all. This wait and see more crowd speaking word salad can get bent. Either get behind him or get behind one replacement candidate. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
I will say this: I’ve really grown to like and respect Fetterman. Guy is loyal. Guy is gearing up for a fight. I get it’s personal for him. But you can’t buy that kind of loyalty in Washington DC. I wish we had term limits. No way this happens this way if all the cronies weren’t absolutely afraid of losing their individual power. It’s crap. I get Fetterman is fighting a losing battle with his brass knuckles but I’d rather go down fighting with him than the shit shadow games that are being played in response to all this. If the only solution is to take out Biden and scream about the threat of Trump then they deserve ALL the blame and the credit for what happens next. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
Support Harris. Threaten everyone who steps out of line I guess. It is hard for me to fathom that there was no backup plan for defeating Trump. It’s like watching a team prepare a few weeks for a Title game and right before it starts forfeit (aggy) -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
And we are watching the CHC and CBC be undermined by their own party. If Obama ok’d the Clooney hit piece then this is just the beginning of what will be destroying him short of mortally wounding him if Biden continues to dig in. It will also largely harm Harris as she is part of the ticket. So you will have some of the party mad Biden is pushed out and not vote, others supporting Harris, and others supporting a candidate yet to be named. All the while telling us, Trump represents the greatest threat to the country and the world we have ever seen BY ENSURING that they put up a candidate that has no hope of winning. What in the fuck????? I get that Trump is good for fundraising for Dems. I get it. But they are handing him the White House. And possibly the Senate and House. This is the solution? Help me understand this. You can’t tell people that Trump is Hitler 2.0 and then say your solution is to destroy your own party rather than fight. And then later blame the voters. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
So let me understand: as of now Biden is not stepping down (but it’s fluid and the clock is ticking) he could announce he’s going to step aside or he may fight until the end. the Dems haven’t outright bludgeoned him to death they are just watching him crawl around wounded while yelling encouraging comments about his accomplishments and legacy. Obama may or may not have approved Clooney’s hit piece on Biden that the Biden campaign tried to stop from being published. Dems want him to drop out but they don’t seem in agreement about supporting Harris. And if it’s Harris and not a blitz primary or open convention they may sit on their hands and watch the country and the world burn around them. And That many voters will feel betrayed by the entire fucking process and that whoever the candidate is may outright revolt. ok. And this is why I want a legit third party. The Repubs will let Trump control everything no matter what so my small sliver of hope is he is only running for a full pardon and will step down a few months after possibly winning. So I guess watch the VP sweepstakes which is very fluid and may be none of the top three candidates. I fucking give up ladies and gents. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
Makes sense. Everyone is speaking in Biblical parables. If they start quoting scripture though I will assume they are indeed trying to summon Him. i get it. This situation sucks. It’s unprecedented. But I keep thinking (I think in analogies) what if I walked into a Porsche dealership. I’ve done all my research. I know the vehicle I want and I can pay for the whole thing in cash. A salesman whose sole job it is to sell me that car is like, “ma’am that’s a great selection. It’s the most expensive one on the lot. This will really help me with commissions and my quota for the month. But don’t you want to go home and think about it? Maybe you should wait a few days and go to other dealerships. The clock is ticking though so choose wisely.” like I’d go buy a car somewhere else. I don’t understand why people can’t speak plainly. I get they are upset and confused and anxious. But it’s like they are waiting on someone to tell them it’s ok to defect. Fine. The clock truly is ticking. Did they all smoke opium in their meetings yesterday and tell everyone just to do whatever they feel is right? 10 lawmakers doesn’t a revolution make. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
Is there a reason why so many are speaking in code? Are they waiting for Schumer or someone else to say drop out before they utter the words drop out? I get a lot of Dems are conflicted and that this is unprecedented. Everyone who has uttered “drop out” acts like they have the right plan and they know what will happen. Sorry 😞 but they don’t know. this drip drip drip of defectors isn’t helpful. Like do it all at once or don’t do it at all. I assume those speaking in word salad are waiting on a signal from someone. I assume that is Schumer. If he says it will they all follow or does it have to be someone else? Who are they waiting on? -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
It’s a challenge for sure. With the secret service. Who’s with me? Just kidding omg. I don’t see any other way out other than him stepping aside. Bc if the Dems in Congress are divided their constituents are divided. If he is forced out the delegates and those they represent will be angry and dismayed. The average person isn’t watching all this shit and posting about it, they may feel disenfranchised and just not vote. If he steps down but says it’s for the future of party and country it will open it up for Kamala. I do think an open convention at that point would be dead. Just roll with her. Close ranks and get excited about her and whomever she chooses as a running mate. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
No idea. 🤷 probably. I mean the stuff he has going this week has been planned for some time. Situation is very fluid. I guess. So unless it’s an additional presser probably? It would be odd to announce while NATO is here to say he’s stepping aside and not running. If it is an additional presser I fear it’s doubling down. As the division causes the party to collapse. For someone who saved the country from Trump to then hand it right back to Trump along with Congress and a stacked Supreme Court Biden’s legacy will not be treated kindly it started with his decision to run again. He faced little opposition to that. And had he stuck with what he’d said prior to the 2020 election that he’s just there to be a placeholder and to pass the torch We aren’t screwed like this. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
Repubs decided to enter the mess. Which was inevitable. Joining the circular firing squad. “house oversight committee subpoenas WH aides over Biden’s health.” Lewis Rothschild : Say what you want. It's always the guy in my job that ends up doing 18 months in Danbury minimum security prison. Biden is going to give a major news conference tomorrow. Also breaking news. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
I don’t know why it was done. There are a couple of theories. But anyone who has ever been around someone suffering some type of mental decline has to know you can’t manage what they will do in public. I took my aunt to the grocery store shortly after her diagnosis. It was a shitshow. She kept insisting out loud that HEB (Austin) wasn’t going to let her leave the store. Kept telling customers that if you are from Dallas they won’t let you leave the store. She’d never done that before or I would never have taken her to the store with me. On the drive home she was rocking back and forth crying saying, “Coco (my nickname) what’s wrong with me? My brain doesn’t work. Just run me over with your car. I can’t make my brain work.” You can’t manage what someone who might be in some type of mental decline will do. You can’t. There is no way to predict it. You can give them a teleprompter. Put a voice in their ear. Give them note cards. But once the decline starts hastening you can’t predict what will happen even if you are right there next to them. I wish it were not this way. But it’s where we appear to be. Kindest thing would be for every senate and house dem demand a meeting with him tonite. Tell him to drop out. Tell him he has no choice. That’s all I can think to do. Depressing af. -
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.
Nicole44 replied to bolverk's topic in Cloak Room
If it isn’t stopped tonite I can say tomorrow will be bad. He’s going to answer questions. In front of the world. In front of our allies who are already nervous as fuck. I would never do this to someone I cared about. He won’t be able to do it. If he was able to do it he would have run into the press room the morning after the debate or the Monday after and Andrew Shepard style take care of it. He can’t. He hasn’t done it bc he can’t. This wait and see attitude people around him in power keep saying is going to backfire worse than the debate and it will cause people to not trust the party. In the process.
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