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To stay included. They'll make the most money and get the most exposure doing this. If the SEC and Big 10 went off and did their own thing, I think they would make less money than they currently do, but they'd still make a lot of money. And I think this playground "you can't sit with us" mentality drives as much of college football's decision making as rational thought. So even though everyone would probably be worse off in this breakaway scenario, it's still a very realistic/plausible threat and that will motivate the Big 12 and ACC (and G5s) to go along with it. College football isn't just the power leagues vs everyone else. There's at least 3 tiers, and maybe 4, of conferences. The Big 12 and ACC aren't on the same financial footing as the SEC and Big 10, but they're a long ways ahead of the guys behind them. And there are probably a couple tiers in the G5 with MWC and AAC at the top and CUSA and the MAC at the bottom, and the Sun Belt kind of between. Eventually I think the top brands in the SEC and Big 10 wonder ask themselves why they continue to subsidize the Purdues and Mississippi States of the world. I think that is more likely than the current SEC and Big 10 breaking away from everyone else, and likely the next frontier of conference consolidation. The only part that's objectionable to me is the guaranteed bye for the SEC and Big 10 winners. Them having more guaranteed bids doesn't really bother me. And I'd much rather have the Big 12 getting a couple bids to this dance than not. All this highlights how unfortunate it is that there has never been a central governing body in the sport. 8 9 team geographically aligned conferences/divisions who's champions play in the playoffs would be so much better than what we're going to get.

I'm pretty sure the entire season has been filmed.

I'm not sure that they're any more this way than any other school. There's a lot of talent in the northeast and one bad hire won't erase that memory.

In Iowa, you could plant got damn near every acre of the state and produce something, so for the most part around here it is actually taking productive ground out of production. Granted, we generally put it on land that doesn't produce as well for whatever reason, but there are places were you see 160 acres of prime ground restored to prairie. I dig it, personally. Good for pheasant numbers.

They seem like an obvious ACC backfill if anyone gets out. Doesn't really harm the football profile and raises hoops.

I'm pretty sure that was a thing around the Great Depression era. There's also a modern equivalent called CRP where the government pays you to put farmland back into tallgrass prairie. We have a few hundred acres of it. It's not them literally paying you not to plant, but that's really what it exists for. Incentivizing farmers to grow fewer crops.

Really glad this shit show was relegated to ESPN+

CU, KU, and ISU are all pretty solid public schools. I think Utah is as well.

I don’t think this is all that implausible. It would be the most hilarious shit ever too.

I enjoy that one as well, but probably not using it as an example of great songwriting.

Exactly. Nebraska's history is meaningless to anyone under the age of 35. Nebraska has a lot of resources and a great fanbase. So do a lot of schools. Any other blue blood that had a rough period recently before a major revival (Texas and Michigan come to mind) were A) relevant much more recently than Nebraska and B) have more inherent advantages. Nebraska could and likely will pick themselves up off the mat, but they aren't going back to the days of Tom Osborne beating the shit out of the Big 8 and playing OU to go to the Orange Bowl. Not unless a bunch of other programs that are currently doing much better crater for awhile at the same time. Their current ceiling is 8-10 wins and needing a down year for the rest of the Big 10 to make the playoffs. There are very few programs that will be capable of winning national titles in the next decade. Nebraska isn't one of them, and like much of the Big 10 are frankly more similar to the Big 12 and ACC schools at this point in time than they are to the schools who are capable of winning a natty.

That's a legit deal nowadays.

17, Flowers, Lonely Girl, Alabama, Brooklyn Kid. He's not on the level of Evan Felker or the guys in this thread title, but I've always enjoyed his music and have real good memories of Ragweed playing in Ames when I was in college.

This sounds sarcastic. But it shouldn't be. Dude wrote some great songs in his day.

At this rate we’ll be done. My wife and a few of our friends have tickets. If we get done by then I’m going

Well if your point is that Penn State doesn’t belong with OSU, Michigan, and USC then just say so. I agree. I wasn’t putting them on that level. I was saying they’re at a level I can’t see Nebraska reaching.

I have no idea how I would handle this actually happening, but it wouldn't be pretty.

We get 2 of them next year. ISU fans don’t care that much about the opponent brand. We look at that schedule and see a rivalry game to cap the season and a bunch of games we should win. We’ll average close to a sell out in every game unless the team just falls apart.

You’re the only one that doesn’t get my point.

As well he should

I too am guilty of this.

Right. They overcame their disadvantage. Kids in those places have never been alive for a Nebraska conference championship, let alone a national one. You asked me what advantages Penn State has over Nebraska. Local talent is the big one.

I'm going to assume my fellow Midwesterner lost a treasured family farm in the 80's. The sentiment of Sinkhole would appeal to a lot of folks who lived through that time in a very existential way. I've always taken it as the latter. She wants out of her dead relationship.

The amount of football talent in that part of the world absolutely dwarfs what comes out of Nebraska. Pennsylvania is a massive state population wise, and Penn State is the only school with a statewide fanbase there. Really it's a lot of the same advantages that the other 3 have, but it's not quite on their level.