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They seem like an obvious ACC backfill if anyone gets out. Doesn't really harm the football profile and raises hoops.

I'm pretty sure that was a thing around the Great Depression era. There's also a modern equivalent called CRP where the government pays you to put farmland back into tallgrass prairie. We have a few hundred acres of it. It's not them literally paying you not to plant, but that's really what it exists for. Incentivizing farmers to grow fewer crops.

Really glad this shit show was relegated to ESPN+

CU, KU, and ISU are all pretty solid public schools. I think Utah is as well.

I don’t think this is all that implausible. It would be the most hilarious shit ever too.

I enjoy that one as well, but probably not using it as an example of great songwriting.

Exactly. Nebraska's history is meaningless to anyone under the age of 35. Nebraska has a lot of resources and a great fanbase. So do a lot of schools. Any other blue blood that had a rough period recently before a major revival (Texas and Michigan come to mind) were A) relevant much more recently than Nebraska and B) have more inherent advantages. Nebraska could and likely will pick themselves up off the mat, but they aren't going back to the days of Tom Osborne beating the shit out of the Big 8 and playing OU to go to the Orange Bowl. Not unless a bunch of other programs that are currently doing much better crater for awhile at the same time. Their current ceiling is 8-10 wins and needing a down year for the rest of the Big 10 to make the playoffs. There are very few programs that will be capable of winning national titles in the next decade. Nebraska isn't one of them, and like much of the Big 10 are frankly more similar to the Big 12 and ACC schools at this point in time than they are to the schools who are capable of winning a natty.

That's a legit deal nowadays.

17, Flowers, Lonely Girl, Alabama, Brooklyn Kid. He's not on the level of Evan Felker or the guys in this thread title, but I've always enjoyed his music and have real good memories of Ragweed playing in Ames when I was in college.

This sounds sarcastic. But it shouldn't be. Dude wrote some great songs in his day.

At this rate we’ll be done. My wife and a few of our friends have tickets. If we get done by then I’m going

Well if your point is that Penn State doesn’t belong with OSU, Michigan, and USC then just say so. I agree. I wasn’t putting them on that level. I was saying they’re at a level I can’t see Nebraska reaching.

I have no idea how I would handle this actually happening, but it wouldn't be pretty.

We get 2 of them next year. ISU fans don’t care that much about the opponent brand. We look at that schedule and see a rivalry game to cap the season and a bunch of games we should win. We’ll average close to a sell out in every game unless the team just falls apart.

You’re the only one that doesn’t get my point.

As well he should

I too am guilty of this.

Right. They overcame their disadvantage. Kids in those places have never been alive for a Nebraska conference championship, let alone a national one. You asked me what advantages Penn State has over Nebraska. Local talent is the big one.

I'm going to assume my fellow Midwesterner lost a treasured family farm in the 80's. The sentiment of Sinkhole would appeal to a lot of folks who lived through that time in a very existential way. I've always taken it as the latter. She wants out of her dead relationship.

The amount of football talent in that part of the world absolutely dwarfs what comes out of Nebraska. Pennsylvania is a massive state population wise, and Penn State is the only school with a statewide fanbase there. Really it's a lot of the same advantages that the other 3 have, but it's not quite on their level.

I think what you're saying definitely applied to Michigan and Texas as recent examples. Both of those schools have (much) more local talent to draw off than Nebraska. Nebraska fans haven't been happy since 2001. There reaches a point where history can't save you without some other major advantage. I forgot to add how much partial qualifiers helped Nebraska, and that shit isn't coming back either. I think Nebraska can get back to being an 8-9 win team on a regular basis, but the 90's are over for a lot of reasons.

I don't disagree, but they'll never be able to crack tOSU, Michigan, USC, and Penn State. All of those programs have a lot more built in advantages. Their ceiling right now seems like 5th place in the Big 10. Once Nebraska wasn't a Top 2 job in their league, they started a hard fade. I agree with you on Bama. Their renaissance was due to the best coach in the history of the sport being there. I don't think DeBoer is that.

Well, I'm glad someone got to the bottom of that. Nebraska hasn't been above average in over 20 years. This is who they are now. UCLA lacks the give a shit to get off the mat.

The issue with Nebraska is that their floor is much lower than of those other programs. LSU, Georgia, and Florida should absolutely be ahead of Nebraska. UCLA doesn't belong either. Especially with their terrible fan support. Clemson doesn't belong with the schools they're grouped in. None of the others compete for natties. MSU, Arky, and Wisconsin just have big followings and are usually solid.