Bobby_Batronic

There are a lot of UAL 9’s sitting in CUN. Or there were last week.

Medlink is who you call if there’s any medical issue in the back and they assume responsibility and liability for the flight diverting or continuing on. You get a patch to a doctor on call after the FA’s hand you a report on the passenger, dispatch listens in, and the doctor makes the decision. 99 times out of 100 they tell you to give pax some orange juice and continue to destination.

The bus has pressurization sensors on the overhead panel that will unlock the door during a depressurization. It’s the two pencil sized holes next to the five yellow lights (3 strike plates, Channel A/B). Simply blowing on them is enough to trigger it. The door is no longer locked, but is it latched securely enough to withstand a sudden depressurization? I hope to never find out.

I’ve seen that video. Those guys shouldn’t fly paper airplanes. Even without filming it the FOQA data would have any US pilot fired post haste.

Honestly, they can have the stretch from Electra to Quanah imo.

Here lie the remains of Vladimir Propov. Died at 23 when a tiger shark bit his top off. He preferred swimming in high salinity. Not a wise move in this vicinity.

Maybe a little pre-apocalyptic purge action from the Orcas before its “So Long and Thanks For All the Fish” time. Douglas Adams is a prophet and remember kids…buttons aren’t toys.

Having some experience with the former category and Uber wealthy people I can assure you that your commoner common sense ways are far from universal with those with at least high 7 zero bank accounts and up. And, as I mentioned up thread a time or three, having that kind of money makes a lot of people think they are invulnerable and the world operates at their pleasure. Having dollars doesn’t mean you have sense.

You’d be surprised how cheap the uber wealthy can be.

So 1.3 dives, and they sign away their lives with a waiver? Deal.

I suspected. Allow me to offer a tube of gorilla glue warrantied up to 2.3 dives. I can also provide some flex seal for a partners share.

Oceansgate knew from the second they lost contact that they were dead and played it like this. There’s no way the mother ship didn’t hear that sound and know what it was. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that assholes did an assholish thing.

I think it would have been heard. Most likely by the mother ship to begin with. Sound travels very quickly underwater and it would be easy to time stamp it to match the time the sub was lost Also, they were only 15 minutes from finishing their dive and navigating the entire way. I bet it won’t take long to actually locate them once they get assets on hand to search with ROV’s. I would suspect that they had a plan on where to approach the debris field and wreck from, and they’re not far from it. The fact that it didn’t surface on its own with the tethers to the ballast suggests it’s either stuck in the mud, perhaps snagged on debris or the wreck itself or, and this is highly possible, Oceangate’s system failed or they pencil whipped the dissolving attachments. I’d think w very wealthy families involved will foot the bill to find and recover them if the assets currently on hand fail or are called off. The thing will surface in its own if it’s still buoyant and an ROV can snip the ties to its ballast bags. Lack of water is very valid. They surely had something onboard to drink. It’s they were going to be down for hours on end and probably had several bottles of water per person on hand or the equivalent. It’s not live on it for a month stuff, but maybe enough to last more than the standard three days. It would be merciful if it did implode.

You have to think that it would be well known if they imploded. I don’t know if the SOSUS nets are still maintained, but I’d bet there were more than a few vessels capable of detecting the sound in the relative vicinity, and that they could correlate the time stamp and calculate if such a noise would match up with the bearing and distance to the wreck site. I suspect they get to go the asphyxiation route. I’d also bet that everyone on that thing has their cell phone on them, and I d be morbidly curious to see if they left videos or notes once their plight became very certain or their batteries were almost done. Something else to consider…it’s got to be very, very cold in that tub and they may die of hypothermia before they suffocate.

More or less and a few others.

You’d get the same amount of ass either way. You forgot the part where you think you’re invulnerable because you have money. Seen waaaayy to many of these MF’s completely lose their shit because someone wouldn’t fly them through a blizzard between rocks they can’t see and into a box canyon.

1. We all flippantly throw small sums of money about. $250k was chump change to these cats. 2. The ultra wealthy tend to believe they are invulnerable, and behave accordingly. Seen the BS movie too many times.

Emergency exit doors are designed as plugs fhat are pressed into the fuselage so that they cannot be opened when pressurized. Like pushing a cork further into the bottle. That’s why most open inward before being placed on the arm rests or thrown outside. They cannot physically open outward. There are new emergency exit style doors that open by hinging upward on both Airbus and Boeing products. I always wondered how much use they would be if the airframe were twisted and the door was stuck in place, but I guess that could be an issue for the plug doors too. Planes land unpressurized so that there is less stress on the cabin and also so there is not a pressure bump for the skin bags within as the valves controlling the cabin altitude fully open on landing better for the planes. Better for the people.

Kinda like GamaJet who was all KA350’s until the last few years. Heard SRQ ground call them GamaProp once. They didn’t sound amused.

Hadn’t heard that yet, but I’ve heard several schools that do it. Usually their flight number coincides with a tail number or something similarly easy to remember. The fractionals do the same thing. Their tail number is always their flight number.

Yeah, but this one is shaped like a Dalek.

Not really, and here’s the rub. “My rights” implies one is worried about the violation of the 2A. It’s a valid concern, but the good folks who are on the opposite end of the spectrum would only use that for starters. As we just witnessed with other “rights” in a national emergency. Every common sense sounding suggestion is backended by unelected activists who have their own agenda quite separate from lawmaking or even reality. It’s the second part of what I suggested above. Neither side can talk, and one side completely distrusts the other.

Doesn’t everything kinda come down on one’s right to do something? In that sense yes. I don’t want to speak for others, but the abject abuse of any leeway given on the subject to the good people who directed the “for your safety” BS of the last few years is more than enough to be leery of how such a registry will be used. It’s ideal use would be one thing. It’s probable use would be quite another.

“Muh Rights!!!” hasn’t been brought up in the discussion at any point. Keep trying to frame arguments for the others while deriding them. That’ll definitely bring people to the table for consensus.

We had a program at my children’s elementary school where dad’s could sign up to be “Watch Dogs.” Essentially, the fathers would walk the halls, help a bit at lunch, look intimidating I guess and hopefully be helpful to the kids while deterring an attack. It was ended during Covid. A resource officer was hired and he is very visible in the mornings and afternoons as is his patrol car. But he can’t be everywhere at once, and it would be very easy to do a lot of damage if you timed it right and and did something during recess. It does appear that the local police have taken to parking their vehicles in the school lots in very noticeable positions while they have lunch or just wait for a call. It can’t hurt, but they’re not always there.