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Bobby_Batronic

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  1. Having some experience with the former category and Uber wealthy people I can assure you that your commoner common sense ways are far from universal with those with at least high 7 zero bank accounts and up. And, as I mentioned up thread a time or three, having that kind of money makes a lot of people think they are invulnerable and the world operates at their pleasure. Having dollars doesn’t mean you have sense.
  2. You’d be surprised how cheap the uber wealthy can be.
  3. So 1.3 dives, and they sign away their lives with a waiver? Deal.
  4. I suspected. Allow me to offer a tube of gorilla glue warrantied up to 2.3 dives. I can also provide some flex seal for a partners share.
  5. Oceansgate knew from the second they lost contact that they were dead and played it like this. There’s no way the mother ship didn’t hear that sound and know what it was. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that assholes did an assholish thing.
  6. I think it would have been heard. Most likely by the mother ship to begin with. Sound travels very quickly underwater and it would be easy to time stamp it to match the time the sub was lost Also, they were only 15 minutes from finishing their dive and navigating the entire way. I bet it won’t take long to actually locate them once they get assets on hand to search with ROV’s. I would suspect that they had a plan on where to approach the debris field and wreck from, and they’re not far from it. The fact that it didn’t surface on its own with the tethers to the ballast suggests it’s either stuck in the mud, perhaps snagged on debris or the wreck itself or, and this is highly possible, Oceangate’s system failed or they pencil whipped the dissolving attachments. I’d think w very wealthy families involved will foot the bill to find and recover them if the assets currently on hand fail or are called off. The thing will surface in its own if it’s still buoyant and an ROV can snip the ties to its ballast bags. Lack of water is very valid. They surely had something onboard to drink. It’s they were going to be down for hours on end and probably had several bottles of water per person on hand or the equivalent. It’s not live on it for a month stuff, but maybe enough to last more than the standard three days. It would be merciful if it did implode.
  7. You have to think that it would be well known if they imploded. I don’t know if the SOSUS nets are still maintained, but I’d bet there were more than a few vessels capable of detecting the sound in the relative vicinity, and that they could correlate the time stamp and calculate if such a noise would match up with the bearing and distance to the wreck site. I suspect they get to go the asphyxiation route. I’d also bet that everyone on that thing has their cell phone on them, and I d be morbidly curious to see if they left videos or notes once their plight became very certain or their batteries were almost done. Something else to consider…it’s got to be very, very cold in that tub and they may die of hypothermia before they suffocate.
  8. More or less and a few others.
  9. You’d get the same amount of ass either way. You forgot the part where you think you’re invulnerable because you have money. Seen waaaayy to many of these MF’s completely lose their shit because someone wouldn’t fly them through a blizzard between rocks they can’t see and into a box canyon.
  10. 1. We all flippantly throw small sums of money about. $250k was chump change to these cats. 2. The ultra wealthy tend to believe they are invulnerable, and behave accordingly. Seen the BS movie too many times.
  11. Emergency exit doors are designed as plugs fhat are pressed into the fuselage so that they cannot be opened when pressurized. Like pushing a cork further into the bottle. That’s why most open inward before being placed on the arm rests or thrown outside. They cannot physically open outward. There are new emergency exit style doors that open by hinging upward on both Airbus and Boeing products. I always wondered how much use they would be if the airframe were twisted and the door was stuck in place, but I guess that could be an issue for the plug doors too. Planes land unpressurized so that there is less stress on the cabin and also so there is not a pressure bump for the skin bags within as the valves controlling the cabin altitude fully open on landing better for the planes. Better for the people.
  12. Kinda like GamaJet who was all KA350’s until the last few years. Heard SRQ ground call them GamaProp once. They didn’t sound amused.
  13. Hadn’t heard that yet, but I’ve heard several schools that do it. Usually their flight number coincides with a tail number or something similarly easy to remember. The fractionals do the same thing. Their tail number is always their flight number.
  14. Yeah, but this one is shaped like a Dalek.
  15. Not really, and here’s the rub. “My rights” implies one is worried about the violation of the 2A. It’s a valid concern, but the good folks who are on the opposite end of the spectrum would only use that for starters. As we just witnessed with other “rights” in a national emergency. Every common sense sounding suggestion is backended by unelected activists who have their own agenda quite separate from lawmaking or even reality. It’s the second part of what I suggested above. Neither side can talk, and one side completely distrusts the other.
  16. Doesn’t everything kinda come down on one’s right to do something? In that sense yes. I don’t want to speak for others, but the abject abuse of any leeway given on the subject to the good people who directed the “for your safety” BS of the last few years is more than enough to be leery of how such a registry will be used. It’s ideal use would be one thing. It’s probable use would be quite another.
  17. “Muh Rights!!!” hasn’t been brought up in the discussion at any point. Keep trying to frame arguments for the others while deriding them. That’ll definitely bring people to the table for consensus.
  18. We had a program at my children’s elementary school where dad’s could sign up to be “Watch Dogs.” Essentially, the fathers would walk the halls, help a bit at lunch, look intimidating I guess and hopefully be helpful to the kids while deterring an attack. It was ended during Covid. A resource officer was hired and he is very visible in the mornings and afternoons as is his patrol car. But he can’t be everywhere at once, and it would be very easy to do a lot of damage if you timed it right and and did something during recess. It does appear that the local police have taken to parking their vehicles in the school lots in very noticeable positions while they have lunch or just wait for a call. It can’t hurt, but they’re not always there.
  19. I believe your simplistic emotional one liner was something to the effect of ….”just admit that you want more guns.” No. I’d like decidedly less guns. Particularly in the hands of the kind of people who decide to attempt mass murder in schools and elsewhere. I believe I’ve also made it clear that I don’t see any meaningful lawmaking taking place toward that goal. So I believe hardening the targets is the best solution going forward. And that would involve in part an armed presence as well as other means to deter an attacker. I’m not overly fond of that being the actual educational staff, but there’s quibble room on that. Que up the battlefield hyperbole. It’s about time for that round of nonsense again. No. I don’t want wars playing out at elementary schools. I want them to be very unattractive targets for what are generally disturbed cowards. So, no, I am not a liar. You just have real difficulty stringing together pretty straight line conclusions. I agree that it’s insanity that we have to even contemplate it, but the insanity isn’t stopping. You’ve already admitted that multiple times in this thread, and yet you seem to cling to some hope that it will. The answer becomes obvious. I’d love to hear the solution to deterring mass shootings when one beloved that no laws will be passed.
  20. Yes. I wondered aloud if the staff being marked would have made a difference. Yes, I believe that hardening targets is the only course forward because neither side can come to an agreement. Hardening targets would mean guns would be a part of the solution. I said that too. In whose hands is another matter and a lot of hardening target has nothing to do with weapons at all. I know all you can see is weapons. I expect nothing less. I’m not worried about being attacked for that at all. You’re very poor at projecting, but do it a lot all the same Yes, kids are being slaughtered at schools because our leaders as extensions of us cannot have a discourse on the matter. You’ve spent ample time proving that in the last few pages. it’s not a hard line of reasoning to follow. We’re spending a lot of time trying it your way with hoping politicos will come to an accord while we don’t protect the schools. I’ve accepted that the former will not happen and that leaves few options to do something about it. What I actually think is worth doing doesn’t matter, because it’s not going to get passed anyway so I don’t waste my time tilting at windmills. Your bumper sticker jab is just more emotional diarrhea that you’ve mistaken for a knock out punch.
  21. That’s not what I believe at all, but it doesn’t surprise me that you attempted to create a position for me of such eye water shallowness and absurdity. You can quit replying at any time.
  22. Another showed me post. My choices are vote for someone I nearly completely disagree with and who would most assuredly overreach and abuse any leeway given on this issue and another candidate I generally agree with but has minimal solutions here. Don’t be a hypocrite in addition to being a tribalitst. You’re not waiting on that one R to vote for who’s strong on gun control. It’s not a gotcha when I provide requested reasoning, and then the other person proceeds to do what I suggested to a fare thee well while denying it.
  23. “The world would be a much better place if everyone would just agree with me and vote for my political candidates” said the tribalist as he derided any opposition, misrepresented their viewpoints and denied that we have issues with discourse.
  24. My choices aren’t between two politicians I largely agree with but have differing opinions on gun violence. I tend to mostly disagree with most of what one candidate offers and vice versa. Don’t pretend you are a single issue voter.
  25. You continue to illustrate my point. You seem to think you’re landing haymakers when all you are doing is retreating deeper into just what I suggested. No. We don’t have civil discourse. On the micro level we can’t disagree anymore in an adult manner. Friends and family members are cut off. People seek to professionally ruin others. People think the sniping that they are now accustomed to on their particular brand of social media is an acceptable interaction in real life. On the macro, our elected officials are equally incapable of actual debate and dialogue on the subject of gun violence. It’s just a series of talking points, one ups, fact checks and gotchas. So nothing gets done. Or will get done anytime soon. You keep dreaming that dream though. It’s the world we live in and directs me to the most logical way to protect our children since actual reforms aren’t going to happen. And no, that’s not strictly a more guns option though it’s would be a part of the process. I’d love to go back to never worrying about it. To open campuses, no need for resource officers and the occasional good old boy’s pickup in the lot with a shotgun on the rack that no one cares about because it’s not even considered an option. That is not the world we live it. It’s not anywhere close to the world we’re headed towards.
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