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Bozo_Casanova

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  1. I think it will bring back some of the ones we want, and also probably help stop the bleeding. I think we are talking about a lot of things here: 1) younger people taking the blame and paying a social/economic price for the actions/inactions of older people, mainly boomers (an immense subject matter) 2) How affluent white progressives have been unaware of, or in some cases actively ignored or even celebrated the negative consequences to a subset of younger people 3) how MAGA enlisted resentment about that and channeled that towards their own ends 4) what it takes for progressives to reestablish or maintain credibility with middle and working class millennials. Paying attention to them and indicating that their struggles are understood isn’t good enough by itself to make a political difference, but I do think it’s required for any sort of policy or plan or candidates to resonate. It’s the whole podcast thing- Kamala Harris should have done Theo Von and flown to Austin to do Rogan and not done anything special other than be herself as honestly as she could and to push back as much as she wanted. The point of doing those venues would have been to signal to their audiences that they matter.
  2. It is counterproductive. Recognizing something and accepting it as real (ie, not an act) is not validation. But you can’t really be credible to another person if you don’t take them in good faith and try to understand where they’re coming from. That’s very different from agreeing with them. It’s not a great analogy but for example, I’ve spent a lot of time with homeless people. Some of them are very angry and blame a lot of people for their problems, including people who are trying to help them. The first step when you try to reach those people is just listen, nod their head, and indicate understanding. But you must not validate because that can enable their worst ideas and actually doesn’t help get to them.
  3. Again, I think you are projecting. I’m blaming progressives for, among other things, failing to help minorities and disadvantaged people, and putting the performance of helping ahead of results in order to protect their own power and status. You can miss me with the rest of all that.
  4. Now I’m confused. Where did I yell at anybody for that?
  5. What? No. One of the weirdest things about this thread is the conflation of empathy, which is merely an effort to understand and accept the reality of another person’s experience and view of the world with some kind of performance, like an admission or apology or explanation or whatever. It’s just super odd.
  6. Evidently the counter argument to that position is “quit blaming minorities,” and “bringing back racial covenants.”
  7. If this means that it was something I thought was worth talking about, indeed that’s why I wrote that. No. That’s not what that means, which is only what it says- if I personally were a millennial male who was denied opportunity, I would be bitter about it, and I have to imagine a subset of those people (ie “a few”) were radicalized by the experience. Thank you for a close read, however: That is not my worldview or anything like it, so let me make this clear: - I very much do blame our current situation on affluent white progressives for abandoning majoritarian middle class economic interests in favor of narrow social issues and reinforcing their own economic security and social status. - I have NEVER proposed giving back goddamn inch on anything, particularly when it comes to opening up opportunities in the workplace. - I spent a good bit of my career working on this stuff, which is why I’m trying to be thoughtful about how we could have done more and better. Hope that helps. As for the screed at the bottom, it’s got nothing to do with me, what I think, what I said, or what I do, but if it made you feel better to get it out, I’m glad.
  8. I can’t find it, but apparently they had DOJ and DOD on the record. That’s the executive branch, ie, the White House. Meanwhile, Megyn Kelly can’t decide who to be today:
  9. Yeah I was like “don’t give up on the ticket scalping.”
  10. “That’s not the game these days” because elite 3s that can attack the rim through traffic are so rare.
  11. Totally agree, and it illustrates how intellectually captive we’ve become. Fixing this is a handful of pretty straightforward changes to the tax code. But in order to do that, you need a major political movement to capture a political party and put the economic solidarity of the middle 60% of net worth ahead of literally everything else. I don’t mean it has to exclude everything else. The opposite- it can’t exclude anyone as long as they are willing to put economic solidarity first.
  12. Wordle 1,648 4/6 ⬜⬜⬜🟩⬜ ⬜🟩⬜🟩⬜ ⬜🟩🟩🟩🟨 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
  13. Worth mentioning that the English who invaded were also French
  14. Is that right? Wow
  15. I should hope so. I repeatedly said it did. My viewpoint “started” because what the author of the essay described aligns with my (and others who also posted) first hand experience as an older person watching/involved in the hiring/promotion/layoff process while we tried to correct historical underrepresentation of women and minorities. I questioned how much we accomplished at the time because it seemed like the people benefitting were already mostly products of extraordinary privilege and it had zero impact on the power structures involved, but I really hadn’t thought about the cost or negative impact in generational terms. Indeed, so I’m not sure what it has to do with what I posted. It would be asinine to suggest that diversity efforts are the primary reason millennials or even millennial males struggle, and it would also be inconsistent with hundreds or perhaps thousands of observations on the labor economy I’ve posted here and in previous incarnations of this community over the last 20+ years. I’m not sure what you think my worldview is. That’s why I asked about my angle.
  16. Ouch: a thread
  17. Get em Yash The 60 Minutes Story Bari Weis spiked
  18. I have no idea what this means. What’s my angle?
  19. Where’s the fun in that?
  20. Neither. It means to sit with them in their feelings, listen, and not argue with them or attempt to explain them away. It’s what separates empathy from sympathy.
  21. Could’ve been a lot worse. apparently “Frodo” was in the mix.
  22. Yes, I agree with you and I made no such proposal that was something we should do in order to get people back into a voting coalition. I think we have to meet people where they are to confort them, and we have to accept the truth of their personal experience do them. But that is a far cry from validating their most corrosive and misplaced resentments. The upshot of the essay, after all, was that minorities and women didn’t do anything wrong. They just got jobs.
  23. I got the impression that he didn’t read it based on his reaction, which seemed to be more of a reflexive response to a light skin, but if you did in fact read it, @wildcat09, I apologize. This: What proposal? Why would anybody ever talk to an angry kid that way? It’s pure projection and totally bizarre.
  24. I dealt with this for years, because I have a very unusual ethnic name. When I was a kid it meant the Church of Christ elders coming to my house to tell my folks we were going to hell, and my grandparents initially refusing to call my by my first name. When I got older it was unreturned phone calls and jobs I didn’t get an interview for. I know a lot of blacks and Hispanics who have been in the same boat and I’m not going to judge anybody for anglicizing their name or using an alternative. I didn’t make that choice personally, because it was their loss, not mine. I’m way past that point now, but I’m glad I didn’t give up my name to accommodate bigotry.
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