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Bozo_Casanova

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  1. Very interesting. I’ll tell Pew. They’ve been doing their research wrong.
  2. I think we agree Tyson‘s peak was 86-89, and he was still capable of performing at that level in 90-91. I happen to agree with those who believe that the Tyson team avoided a match with Holyfield in 89-90, in part because he was the #1 heavyweight contender basically the entire time while Tyson was dicking around with Frank Bruno and Carl Williams, before losing to Buster Douglas. And who beat Douglas after Tyson lost to him? Oh right, #1 contender Evander Holyfield (if i recall correctly). As for Tim Witherspoon, it would have taken his best and they were stablemates on top of it, but it’s widely understood that Don King didn’t want Tyson in the ring with Tim Witherspoon and put him up against Bonecrusher Smith instead. In his prime Spoon would have been a very tough draw for Mike Tyson, hard to imagine he couldn’t have taken him the distance for all the same reasons Quick Tillis did.
  3. Well not for nothing, those aren’t solutions to anything and wouldn’t solve any of the real problems in our housing market any more than mass deportations would. Our housing crisis is a product of local zoning, cheap debt, and income inequality, in that order. But more importantly, the Democratic Party is all over the place on housing. At the local level they are often the worst offenders when it comes to protecting housing shortages and pulling up ladders of opportunity.
  4. I think the disconnect here is that when I talk about the *middle class*, I’m literally talking about the roughly half of the population that makes from 2/3 to double the median income (ie from about $60k-$160k which is clustered in middle of that range. There’s some overlap, but in general I think of working class people as non-management people who are lower or lower-middle class, ie middle but making less than median income. What I do not mean is high income people who feel economic strain because their discretionary income does not provide what they think it should. That strain is real and flows from some of the same structural problems in the economy that hurt the middle class, but they aren’t middle class people. What do you think is a middle class person?
  5. I don’t? I think I use “working class” and “middle class” pretty consistently when I’m talking about what Democrats should be doing or don’t do. I certainly should, I’m a partisan of the middle class, despite no longer belonging to it financially. Democrats walking away from the middle 70% of the the population, both in terms of policy focus and linguistically, is the main reason I stopped identifying with the party and left it altogether in 2016, since Hillary Clinton was the end-stage manifestation of that abandonment.
  6. Styles make fights. Give me one person on that list that Tyson would be able to beat and why, and the closest opponent they faced to Tyson, and the closest opponent Tyson fought to that person.
  7. No offense kid, but you need to watch a few thousand boxing matches cause you don’t know what you’re talking about. Marciano is on the list because he’s the most like Tyson. The others are on the list because they have things in common that Tyson in his prime had a hard time with. If you think Larry Holmes in his prime would have “get wiped” by Mike Tyson, I’m gonna go ahead and guess that you have never actually watched a Holmes fight from his prime. Or the others. And those are just the heavyweights, and Charlie Burley, who you’ve never heard of, probably could have knocked out Tyson, and that’s giving up 60 pounds. But he could have gone the distance if not, because Tyson couldn’t hit him. Shit, I was being generous. Archie Moore probably could’ve beaten Mike Tyson.
  8. Like the years where he was duckingTim Witherspoon and Holyfield because they were problematic matchups? all the other guys had years where they were nearly unstoppable too.
  9. Yes based on career, but then you have to compare prime to prime. Tyson on his best day would struggle to beat on their best day: -Ali - Marciano - Joe Louis - Jack Johnson - Holyfield - Jack Dempsey - Larry Holmes - Tim Witherspoon - Lennox Lewis - Joe Frazier - Sonny Liston
  10. Oh, I see. The way they feel about their own lives is wrong. You’re saying they are too stupid to understand why their wage and 401K growth makes up for the higher price of food and home prices accelerating away from them. Sure, the entire middle third of the adult population have investments and savings totaling less than $50k, but look at that tiny pile grow! Sure, groceries went up by like 20%, but incomes went up by almost half that much, and they have iPhones, what’s their problem? Great argument, you convinced me.
  11. For you (and me). Not for most middle class people or people on fixed incomes.
  12. That’s true. One of my wife’s cousins is a big Dem donor. I was talking about some retired teachers saying they were better off financially when Trump was president, and he said “yeah but they are lying, the economy is in great shape. This is about race.”
  13. First, Liz Warren’s ideas are pretty naive. She’s got this lawyer’s notion that we can somehow use regulation to rid the economy of a bunch of widely used products and financial strategies and wind the clock back to how the economy worked in 1965. Second more importantly however, is that it’s not that the unwashed can’t relate, it’s that they are being talked about rather than talked to. Trump and Bernie address their constituencies directly in words that are clear, immediate and certain, even if nonsensical in Trump’s case. Democrats *refer* to those constituencies, as in “I’m going to create an opportunity economy (whatever the fuck that is) and help the middle class.”
  14. Well it doesn’t seem very mysterious that more poor and working class people stopped voting Democrat and started voting Republican around the same time that Democrats stopped talking to poor and working class people and Republicans started talking to them.
  15. But they aren’t incorrect. Their perception isn’t wrong. They are correctly perceiving an economy that is unfair, inequitable and distorted. Unfortunately Democrats have lost the stomach for the politics of class, and Republicans filled the void, and the media doesn’t have the vocabulary or incentives to frame the issue that way.
  16. The heavyweight division has always been the worst division in boxing and it’s never been worse than it is today. Middles and lighter have always been the way to watch boxing and are still pretty good. UFC bores me most of the time. Sugar Ray Robinson is the GOAT. Ali was probably the best Heavyweight, although he is getter there on style points because he was banned from the sport for a large part of his physical prime. Tyson isn’t part of the GOAT conversation. He’s not even top 10 all-time heavyweight. You’re welcome
  17. That’s a lot of words to say someone is part of the Federalist Society
  18. Tyson doesn’t look right walking out.
  19. This Goyat dude is fun. Barrios-Ramos is a fight of the year candidate.
  20. To me, this is Mike Tyson's best fight. A knockout of the great Pinklon Thomas in 6. For the record, this fight was a great example of the smart money getting it wrong because ALL the real boxing guys, myself included thought that Pink was too big, too strong, and just too good a boxer for Tyson to cut down to size. Do not skip to the 6th round. This is Tyson's masterpiece, and the areas where he struggles in this fight have a lot to do with why he never fought Tim Witherspoon and why his team ducked Holyfield until it was impossible not to. Also Angelo Dundee's meltdown at the doctor after the 1st round is pretty great.
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