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Bozo_Casanova

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  1. Post a pic that makes you say “holy shit!”
  2. I understand your point, but I think you've got the Decade wrong. 2024 was our 1968, when the hippies and people who cared about social justice began to write off areas of the country they didn't care about and retreated to safe spaces like Austin and San Fransisco and LA, and a recent period of chaos ushered in a long,dark period of moral and sociocultural decline.
  3. No, not only, although that probably helps him considerably. They also cancel ad buys from opposition, frame his opponents and issues in terms his team defines, forces his opponents to react to whatever OUTRAGEOUS and "THIS IS NOT NORMAL" thing he does and says, and give him literally billions of dollars worth of earned media his opponents don't get. What did I say when people were making fun of the McDonald's stunt? I said "he's good at this." Agreed, I’m tired of batting these two around.
  4. They don't. That's why Trump called it an asset. That's why they talk about it all the time and use it so effectively. You aren't the audience for it. The media that is actually mainstream is for you. The legacy media reaches a legacy audience.
  5. So you concede the newsrooms and journalists aren't independent AND you concede that business is better if Trump wins AND you concede that the ownership are making editorial decisions with Republicans in mind. My friend, much like citizenship, journalism is not an S&M kink. The people with gags on aren't in control. You have lost this argument and we can go back to the main topic of the thread now.
  6. They have independent control? First, that's a naive and dated idea in general. To the exent they were ever independent (they weren't, that was always a polite fiction) they haven't been in a couple of decades. That polite fiction has been mostly abandoned. Second and more importantly however, both the post and the LA Times spiked their endorsement of Harris because their owners demanded it. I'm sure you are aware of that and I'm throwing you into the briar patch as you wish to see how you plan to get out.
  7. Me too. I don't watch reality TV but my wife does and we both watch docs. Because my progressive friends know I own a lot of guns I've gotten maybe a dozen calls and texts in the last 5 days about getting some pointers about what they should/could buy and own.
  8. First of all, I'm not a Democrat. I never considered myself a particularly strong Democrat, and have not identified as a Democrat in any way since early 2016. Severing my relationship, which was tenuous to begin with, was the price of my vote for Hillary Clinton. Second, I'm some minuscule portion of "The people who work at Legacy Media" contributed some small part of their insignificant wages to Democrats or align to Democratic candidates in some way. You think that's meaningful to whether the Legacy media is under the control of the Republican messaging apparatus? You think some talking head or food columnist or assignments editor is in a position to put their thumb on the scale of elections? Come on man. I thought you got clean.
  9. This isn’t complicated. Republican have control of: - Mainstream media - Legacy media - New media - Old media
  10. This bizarre image of a man dressed as an 1890's frontier cowboy stealing a child's doll in the upper Midwest of the mid-1930s has been seen 19.6 Million times, which is about 20-25X the readership of the NYT opinion section.
  11. 5D chess. He's brilliant at the use and control of media. I've never said anything else and people who do are really dumb.
  12. You're trying to compare one guy's account with the breadth of the network? Wouldn't it be better to compare the breadth and influence of Twitter and CNN? I don't think anybody would argue CNN is more influential.
  13. Oh gosh, look like somebody agrees with me. @Incredulity, this one is for you:
  14. The person/people calling themself "Gunther Eagleman" have 30% more followers on Twitter than Brian Stelter of CNN, and nearly four times as many followers as the Times top columnist, David Brooks. He also has about 35% more followers than Kristen Welker, host of Meet The Press. Try again?
  15. It's a technique of control through disorientation, to force the media into a state of constant reaction and seeking comment. Here's one example. Nope, I understood what you meant, although it's extremely odd that you selected those three and not Newspapers, Local news, Fox, and CNN, but I'm fine with "legacy media." Republicans financially, editorially and narratively control legacy media, which is what you actually mean when you say "mainstream." Oh, and the rest of us are supposed to also say "mainstream" when we mean "legacy", otherwise we are the ones being disingenuous.
  16. Sure, they just have the biggest, most devoted audiences and dominate both the cultural narrative and the outcome of elections. That doesn't sound "mainstream" at all.
  17. I don't. You're asking me to adopt your point of view without sharing it. Their motivation? What does that even mean? And in the context of Trump, pushing their own negative stories is a stated part of their campaign strategy, so even if they were "trying to harm" him, they are working in service of Republican objectives. Come on, man. These are for-profit companies and with the exception of NPR, news is a business. That's why the #1 source for news and political coverage is FOX news, and why political and politics adjacent podcasts have a larger audience than any news broadcasts. He was saying "mainstream" media, not "legacy" media. They are not interchangable words. He's still wrong, though.
  18. That's a funny way to define mainstream media, in that you skipped financial control and those three are the fourth, fifth and ninth most cited source for political coverage, for a total of 11% of respondents to Pew. But it's not even arguable that all three gave Trump more coverage than Biden in 2020 or Biden/Harris in 2024. So it's not even an arguable point that events surrounding the campaign were covered from POV with Trump and Republicans at the center. That's the definition of narrative control - GOP events, GOP people, GOP actions, GOP language - what they are saying, doing and so on.
  19. No, I meant it the way he meant it, except with Republicans. They control the mainstream media.
  20. No. I'm saying based on the most straightforward definitions, what you meant when you said it. Republicans control the mainstream media. They dominate it financially, editorially, and narratively. They also control the major alternatives, such as podcasts and talk radio. In what way do they not control it?
  21. Um, in what we don't they? I'm just making a statement of fact.
  22. No. Republicans and MAGA control the mainstream media.
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