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All of this has nothing to do with Bernie. He can’t control every person who supports him despite what you seem to think. Bernie does not equal his supporters. The topics he has brought to the forefront are sensitive issues that will invoke serious emotion. Give me a break Hugo. Either your willfully ignorant or it’s part of your strategy.

Huh

I’m only assuming all of them with the idea being the best way to help these people get off this poison is to get them in front of you and not treat them like a piece of shit. Quoted from the actual plan below. Legalize safe injection sites and needle exchanges around the country, and support pilot programs for supervised injection sites, which have shown to substantially reduce drug overdose deaths. The plan in its entirety here https://berniesanders.com/justice-and-safety-for-all/

After a quick glance I do not believe so. Both Bernie and Warren have stated they would be open to the idea. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449558-bernie-sanders-says-hed-consider-sex-work-decriminalization%3famp

This plan got me thinking about an article I read a few days ago. I believe it is all connected. Bernie has the youth vote on lock because he actually encourages them to take their place at the table. Bernie listens to their voices and actually responds with significant ideas. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/bernie-sanders-playbook-for-winning-the-black-vote The old, white senator from Vermont has become an unlikely hero to black and Hispanic millennials in Los Angeles. At a private lunch last month in Hollywood, Sanders explained his vision for winning minority voters—and snatching the nomination from Joe Biden. The presidential candidate, who remains a serious contender for the Democratic nomination despite having slipped in the polls, was having lunch with 25 or so creatives—writers, musicians, artists and social-media mavens, most of whom were African American or Latino. During his last presidential bid, Sanders was accused by Black Lives Matter activists of neglecting race relations and criminal justice reform. He appears to be trying, this time, not to let that happen again. Mensa, speaking from his home in L.A.’s upscale Silver Lake neighborhood, focused his criticism on Harris. “Kamala Harris is a cop,” he said. “She’s a tough-on-crime prosecutor. That’s like the opposite of a revolutionary, and I could never vote for her.… I’m not impressed because she’s a woman of color, because I recognize what neocolonialism is, and I recognize that token black people are propped up to positions within the imperialistic, patriarchal, white supremacist state that is America to enforce all of those ideologies. That is a prosecutor—to prosecute those who reject the white supremacist, patriarchal state.” There are a massive number of hidden votes from young people and the disenfranchised in general that do not usually vote. The people who don’t answer phone calls or doors. This race is only just beginning.

Hook ‘em Ced

Good article that expands on and explains Bernie’s view of the media. It is not Trump like criticism hiding his own criminal activities. Bernie’s points are valid and this shit has to be fixed. A healthy media is absolutely vital to a healthy democracy. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/bernie-sanders-washington-post-media-complaint-872349/ The public is not stupid. It sees that companies like CNN and NBC are billion-dollar properties, pushing shows anchored by big-city millionaires. A Vanderbilt like Anderson Cooper or a half-wit legacy pledge like Chris Cuomo shoveling coal for Comcast, Amazon, AT&T, or Rupert Murdoch is the standard setup. Media companies run by the country’s richest people can’t help but project the mindset of their owners, and they are naturally incompetent when it comes to viewing their own role in society. While we regularly congratulate ourselves for being protectors of democracy, we have difficulty admitting basic embarrassments, like that the news is a profit-driven consumer product that isn’t always good for the customer. The public sees through this with ease. The press is completely in denial about this.

First time for me seeing and hearing this guy talk after noticing him behind Bernie for years.

Happy to see Bernie still evolving and being innovative. This is great. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/18/bernie-sanders-criminal-justice-overhaul-proposal-1466995 Bernie Sanders, who was criticized by liberal activists in 2016 for not focusing more on racial injustice, is unveiling a sweeping plan on Sunday aimed at slashing the country’s prison population in half and ridding the criminal justice system of "institutional racism and corporate profiteering." The plan calls for banning cash bail, solitary confinement and civil asset forfeiture, which allows law enforcement officials to seize people’s homes and other property even if they are not convicted of a crime. The plan also looks to legalize marijuana and abolish the death penalty, a practice Sanders has long opposed. The Vermont senator would legalize "safe injection sites" where people can use illegal drugs under medical supervision, a controversial practice that has been shown in several studies to curb the number of overdose deaths. Sanders' proposal promises the attorney general will investigate every time a person is killed in police custody. He would also establish a "Prisoner Bill of Rights," create a “civilian corps of unarmed first responders” to deal with mental health emergencies, and boost funding for public defenders.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/17/hundreds-say-goodbye-el-paso-walmart-mass-shooting-victim/2038618001/ During a prayer service for Reckard at La Paz Faith Center n Central El Paso, Basco was engulfed in love and support. The packed church holds about 500 and there was about triple that number outside. Flowers for Reckard came from all over the world.

My mistake. But I have noticed your shift and others as well. I have no problem w Liz. One of my first posts was calling for Bernie/Warren as evidence.

Let’s take our chances w someone else. It’ll work out just fine.

Says the guy who voted Hillary over Bernie.

I have not seen the he’s getting paid right now to post on Twitter narrative. Not saying it’s not there idk not much of a tweeter. But don’t equate the two. My words you quoted are no different than yours here. A life in corporate America where one has made vast sums of money that of course leads to a different worldview than say Bernie Sanders.

I mean I’m at your logical explanation. Where has anyone said he’s getting paid by corporate America to post on Twitter to smear Bernie? That is what he chooses to post all on his own. He seems to be or have been a corporate lobbyist and made vast sums of money doing that work. They’ve already paid him prior to his twitter posting and it’s why he’s spouting the nonsense he does. He doesn’t like Bernie bc Bernie puts a target on his back and others like him.

I agree. It’s on MSNBC assuming they have no connection w each other. That’s a 50 50 proposition given this has never really happened before.

Idk the whisperer outside of this tweet. It’s a troll account based on the outright lie it’s perpetuating in order to stifle Bernie. That’s not my narrative. That’s what actually happened. And Fox News is now the benchmark on what a news station should be? Who gives a shit what Fox News does? Comparing MSNBC to Trump rounds out your argument. Idgaf if some racist conspiracy theorist Trump account gets doxxed Mr. Stiglitz. Friendlier than shooting them in their Nazi balls.

Bernie is special in regards to it getting aired on fucking MSNBC. Who reaches a wider audience? Some person on twitter or the news station? As GSU asked... show me one single example of a news network airing an anonymous tweet aimed at smearing a candidate. I’ll wait.

The choice is clear to me Hank. Idk how else to state it. You have a guy who has been doing this for 40 plus years and has championed every major idea for the D party. You have a choice to go with that guy or take your chances on someone else, Liz being the only other one who comes close imo. So to answer your question directly YES.

What’s gross is airing false corporate lobbyist propaganda on a major news network.

Again this opinion that some are indifferent doesn’t make me better than you. I’m simply stating what the majority of younger Americans think. It’s not without merit. There is actual data (like posted above) that gives us good reason to feel the way we do. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/polls-millennials-and-gen-zers-are-dystopian-socialists.html Americans under 30 are also way more distrustful of their fellow citizens and government than any other age group. Some 73 percent of Americans between the ages of 18 and 29 say that “most of the time, people just look out for themselves,” while 71 percent believe “most people would try to take advantage of you if they got the chance,” and 60 percent contend that “most people cannot be trusted.” Among Americans over 65 — the most conservative cohort in the U.S. — those figures are 48, 39, and 29, respectively. Sometime between the “end of history” and the onset of climate disaster, our nation ostensibly birthed a generation of “dystopian socialists” — Americans whose comfort with state intervention derives less from faith in human goodness than fear of our species’s rapacity. Life in late capitalism is nasty, brutish, and in the United States, increasingly short. Only Bernie Sanders’s Leviathan can save us from ourselves. Or so a socialistic millennial misanthrope might hypothesize.

And the news station that has incredible influence over a gullible population airing an anonymous troll account lobbyist tweet isn’t a level above that?

And y’all wonder why we don’t see eye to eye. This is before you factor race into the equation. Tell me again how Bernie goes too far. https://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-net-worth-versus-baby-boomers-generational-wealth-gap-2019-8 That means the wealth gap between older households and younger households has nearly doubled in the past 20 years, climbing from seven to twelve times the net worth. In that time frame, the average net worth for households ages 20 to 35 has declined by $2,600, while households ages 52 to 70 have seen a $452,400 increase in net worth. Much of that debt takes shape in student loans, thanks to college tuition that has more than doubled since the 1980s— the national student-loan debt total is more than $1.5 trillion, and the average student-loan debt per graduating student in 2018 who took out loans is $29,800. According to a report earlier this year by Merrill Lynch Wealth Management, 81% of early-adult households ages 18 to 34 carry a collective debt of $2 trillion, including student-loan debt and credit card debt. Meanwhile, as Mitra reported, rising housing costs also play a role. First-time homebuyers today will pay 39% more than first-time homebuyers did nearly 40 years ago, according to Student Loan Hero. That means millennials are less likely to buy a home, making houses an asset more boomers than millennials have. There's also the aftermath of the Great Recession, which created a financial domino effect for millennials that put them on a slow path to wealth accumulation. It hit millennials born in the 1980s especially hard: Their wealth levels are 34% below where they would most likely have been if the financial crisis hadn't occurred, according to a report by the St. Louis Fed.

So be receptive to false narratives that WaPo is operating fairly or Bernie is taxing everyone for college for all? Those aren’t different ideas they are wrong. You can have a different idea on how to get things done great. It’s not great when you’re spouting outright lies to cut down Bernie’s ideas. That’s not debating ideas in good faith.