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  1. 7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

    Trump and His followers are acting like they just realized that the gal who gave them a $20 blowjob behind Walmart is a dude, and so they are going to punish everybody. 

    It goes farther than that. Their motivation is that they enjoyed it and are going back for another one. They act out to compensate for their shame. 

  2. 8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


    Like I said, the anthropology is real.

    You're not just now discovering that, are you? I learned a long time ago about the Ignorance -> Fear -> Intolerance -> Hate formula, the eternal darkness of the tiny closed mind, the inability to reason with the unreasonable. How many times do you have to try and fail to teach a tree to walk before you accept the futility of the endeavor?

    Willfully ignorant simpletons like Chrispy derail a thread for pages and pages by making outrageous claims and then everyone wastes their time trying to talk sense to them. They don't know and they don't want to know. You can't fill an empty vessel when the lid is screwed on tight. 

    Like you said, there are tens of millions of them. They're not complex. Their dialog is easy to predict. Usually they're just regurgitating what they've been fed by someone else who makes a living telling them what they want to hear. The last thing they want to do is think for themselves. Their reality is dictated by what they feel, not by facts and logic. They're frightened by the unfamiliar and their fear makes them easy to manipulate. There's no getting through to them. 

    They're good to play poker with. That's about it. Otherwise it's best just to ignore them. Or sell them a pet rock. 

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  3. 59 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

    Like I said, 14 lines up with the beats too because it is 7 x 2, and the intro, for example, spreads the main riff over two measures, which does add up to 14.  Here's Bill talking about it, and he describes it as sevens across two measures:

     

     

    Mea culpa. I dug out Bill's book and it does say 7/4. I don't know why that didn't stick when I read it (although there were some coupons from a restaurant I stopped visiting a long time ago used as bookmarks so that might be a clue). 

    There's probably some conflation with Playin' which is definitely in 10 and counted in two sets of four and an extra two. The early part of Estimated, both compositionslly and lyrically, is in 2 measure long units. That in itself is something I wouldn't have ever noticed on my own so I must have heard something about it at some point long ago and always thought of the song as being in 14. I don't know enough to make it up. I'm pretty sure that's been my impression of the song for more than twenty years. 

    But when you get to the "You've all been asleep" line the 7 beat measure becomes more apparent. I've always stopped counting by then and just gotten into the groove.

    Checking the "Songwriting" chapter of Gans' book, it doesn't say anything about the time signatures of any specific songs. But it does include this quote from Bobby:

    "I just don't see why the bounds of popular music should be so constricting as to deny possibility of, for instance, odd time signatures or harmonic modes."

    That's a big part of what I love about Dead music. I love unusual time signatures, polyrhythms, unusual chords, etc. I couldn't begin to explain modal music beyond the most basic of terms but I can hear that there's a difference. There's so much more depth there than the casual listener ever realizes.

    Btw, I threw on the Estimated from Dick's Picks 29 (Atlanta 5/19/77) this morning because it was the last track on a disc and that's all I wanted to hear. There are three unlisted bonus tracks as filler on that disc. I never got around to looking it up before but the unlisted filler on DP 29 is from, you're gonna love this, the Lloyd Noble Center in Norman, OK on 10/11/77. The filler on disc 2 of DP 29 is a scorching NFA > Wharf Rat > Around & Around. I believe that's all straight up 4/4 rock 'n' roll but it's pretty hot. 

  4. 8 hours ago, Mojo Hand said:

    I'm pretty sure Estimated is in 7/4, but I guess you could think of the intro as 14/4 because the opening riff covers two measures. 

    Like I said, I'm not a musician. I wouldn't know it was in 14 and counted the way I described it if the Dead hadn't told me. I may have first read about it in David Gans' book Playing in the Band. Maybe I heard him talk about it on his Grateful Dead Hour radio program. Or heard Bobby talk about it. And I'm pretty sure it was in Billy's book where he talks about the unusual time signatures they used (which would make sense). Playin' is in 10, The Eleven is in 11, and Estimated is in 14. Count it out as you listen. That last pair of beats after the first three groups of four is noticeable. On the one comes "California!"

  5. Estimated is in 14. I always assumed 14/4 but I think I recall reading in Billy's book that it's 14/8. I'm not a musician and don't have the education in music theory to know for sure by listening or to express it properly. But it's definitely in 14. Count it out in 1-2-3-4, 2-2-3-4, 3-2-3-4, 4-2. It's got that rising and descending scale that hits the low note on the one and repeats the cycle. 

    I love that song. Great lyrics (RIP John Barlow), Bobby screams, and the jam out of Estimated is one of my favorite spaces in all of their music. Such a cool groove. 

  6. 22 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    It’s at the point where it might be worth it to have a large lottery pool. Like 100 people each giving $20.  If it hits, you still make several million per person. 

    I volunteer to be in charge of handling the money and buying the tickets. 

  7. 12 hours ago, Lurch said:

    Those fake job numbers suddenly became real.

    Just two months into his presidency. He didn't even try to hide the fact that he'd been bullshitting about the numbers under Obama all along. It was practically with a nod and a wink when he said "Now they're real" in reference to the jobs report from March, 2017. 

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