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  1. Liberals are afraid of their own shadows, I swear to god. This whole oppo dump rhymes an awful lot with the "Mamdani is a jihadi rapper" saga. Totally playing to people's prejudices. The brown Muslim must be a secret terrorist, and the white guy from rural America must be a secret Nazi, ergo we just gotta elect the centrist! Let the people of Maine decide.
  2. He has to do that. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/21/graham-platner-tattoo-nazi-00617686
  3. I think you're way too focused on aesthetics in this case. What has he said or done that a Nazi would support?
  4. If he stays in the race and he's the best candidate, I would. If it turns out he truly is a Nazi, or has lied about having been a Nazi in the past, I would not.
  5. Either he's a Nazi or he isn't. The only evidence we've seen that he's a Secret Nazi is pretty weak. Would he really buy into all that white supremacy bullshit without a crew of like-minded boneheads to whom he'd have by now been linked? That strikes me as pretty fucking odd. What does it mean to be a history buff anyways? Is it like people who do their own research about vaccines? What it comes down to for me is that if he ever was a Nazi he shouldn't be lying about that. The lies would be disqualifying. But let's be sober about this. We have plenty of dudes out there who got Nazi tattoos with varying degrees of awareness what they were doing at the time, and we want those guys to have a viable path towards renouncing those ideas and symbols and reintegrating with society. If the far right remains their only viable option, that leads to much worse scenarios. You end up on the JD Vance pipeline. Sitting here today in October 2025, there's far more evidence that Platner is an anti-fascist than there is evidence he's a Secret Nazi.
  6. Most people have no idea what the hell the design meant. It was not taught in my school, and I can totally buy that it wasn't taught at his school wherever the hell he went to high school. If he's not a Secret Nazi, he should stay in the race.
  7. Not a Mavs fan, but getting Cooper Flagg should suffice right? Fire up a new thread guys
  8. The ugly truth is that there, but for the grace of god, go many working class men. They are directionless, insecure, malleable, and want to feel like they're part of something. It's kind of a fluke in Platner's case that he didn't end up in the alt-right echo chamber during the 2010s because it was designed to ensnare people like him. How the hell do you get peer pressured into getting a "scary looking skull and crossbones" when you're 23, re-enlist and redeploy a bunch of times, join fucking Blackwater, and not turn out to be a MAGAt? On one side, you have the most annoying liberals in the world telling these men how terrible they are for failing to recognize their own misogyny and white privilege. And in a veteran's case you also have the most annoying Leftists in the world telling these men how terrible they are for "killing babies" and "murdering brown people" because they willingly joined the military. You are totally irredeemable, no matter how much you try to take accountability and become a better person and there's no place for you. On the other side, you have the most deplorable reactionary fascists, telling these men how much society has taken from them, and how they should never apologize for being an "alpha male" who fights for traditional values. It's okay if you have skeletons in your closet or skulls on your chest. "Cancel culture" is bullshit, and you're always welcome on their podcasts. A sociopolitical movement that fights for the working class must also accept uncomfortable truths about the working class. That does not mean Graham Platner is a qualified candidate or that candidates should be held to a lower standard. It definitely does not mean that adopting a platform for the working class can (or should) exempt a candidate from the consequences of having and failing to remove a Nazi tattoo. In light of these thoughts and observations, I have two points to make on the subject of electoral calculus. First, by making redemption impossible, you concede crucial votes to your opposition. A party that claims it wants to win back younger men must reckon with the fact that these voters have said and done terrible things; that they have said and done ignorant things. The party should signal loudly and clearly that it is willing to offer amnesty to all who approach with good intentions. I won't get into the nitty gritty of the terms or conditions of that amnesty, but they should ensure the safety of marginalized communities without asking for excessive or performative self-flagellation. You can't please everyone, so don't try. The goal is to win back younger men without selling anyone else out. Now, I've seen many BlueSky libs and Leftists hand-wringing about Platner. Leftists who hate him because he joined the military and is a white, cisgender, heterosexual male. Liberals who hate him because he's pro-Palestine and is a white, cisgender, heterosexual male. The most persuasive argument they've made is that it's not too late to replace him with someone better (e.g., a Bernie bro without the baggage). Which brings me to my next point. Second, Maine is a small state and Platner is the only person who has actually rolled up his sleeves and done the work to organize people around a platform like Mamdani's that prioritizes affordability and the working class. The reason corporate and AIPAC-aligned libs along with corporate and AIPAC-aligned fascists are so motivated to take Platner out early is because they perceive him to be a threat to their interests. Make no mistake: He is the only viable threat to their interests from Maine. There is nobody else waiting in the wings, and even if there were, that person hasn't actually put in the work required to mount a serious challenge to Susan Collins. It pains me to say this, but this is Maine's only shot. I'm encouraged to hear that he's getting the tattoo removed, and because the stakes are so high, I hope he stays in the race.
  9. I agree that the ignorance and stupidity should be disqualifying, but A) as far as I can tell none of us are Mainers so my opinion (and most of our opinions) on it should not factor into his next move, and B) we are way, way past the point of ignorance and stupidity mattering to voters. We need to do whatever it takes, within the bounds of contemporary decency, to flip this seat and hold onto it for at least six years. I don't think Janet Mills has what it takes to defeat Susan Collins, and it's by no means a sure thing that she would even live long enough to finish a six year term. If it turns out to be the case that he was lying to the American people by trying to convince the Pod Johns he was ignorant of the Nazi symbol, that would be disqualifying. If it turns out to be the case that he's antisemitic and/or white supremacist, that would be disqualifying.
  10. Yeah it feels slimy. If someone was going to say this anonymously, at least choose a more reputable publication to do it.
  11. If it wasn't for Golden, all of the Skattebo replays would get the "Superman" Roy Williams treatment until the end of time as the greatest CFP upset in the history of sports
  12. Has Steve Sarkisian said "If they sign this, I'm staying" because we need all hands on deck here
  13. Honestly though we could be in the minority on this. Most American voters seem to prefer being spoken to by morons
  14. The nepo baby cosplaying as working class. Sucks about the stroke, but I don't remember a better candidate in that primary. As much as Fetterman sucks I'm glad he was there to approve Biden's judges and it wasn't Dr Oz
  15. I wish. One of my old drinking buddies relocated to New England and is in-the-know about politics there. His read on Maine is that the people are unpredictable and skeptical of outsiders.
  16. Nazis are proud of their imagery, in-group jokes, and memes. They can't shut the fuck up about how oppressed they are for being "race realists" in their message boards. If they get called out about their racism they double down. "Badass" military/police bros meanwhile will cover their trucks in Punisher skulls without ever having read a single pane of the comics and without knowing anything about the Punisher. We can no longer assume someone with a lot of Punisher decals is necessarily a fan of the comic, or even aware the comic exists.
  17. this is the first time I've noticed his hat and i've seen other gifs of the same guy
  18. It's definitely a skull and crossbones. It is not a "cool" design, at all. My gut tells me that if he was an actual Nazi, he'd have turned out much differently, and his reddit comments would have been a lot more damning. Instead the worst comment was treating rural white folks with too broad of a brush. He called them racist, and not in a complimentary way. It's for the people of Maine to decide if they can look past a dumb tattoo. But from where I sit, I'm not buying the idea that he's some sort of secret Nazi.
  19. If he got it removed after finding out what it meant, I think that's acceptable. Not great, but again I don't believe they have a very deep bench in a state that's 100% white. Find me a replacement candidate, I'm all for it. However, I still pick him over Susan Collins.
  20. I know about the SS. I don't know any of their symbols besides the swastika.
  21. this looks goofy as hell, can't say i've heard of it
  22. What kind of tattoo is it? I am not up on biker culture
  23. There's a reason Ohio State wanted him.
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