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  1. 1 hour ago, Llogg said:

    If it's not Miles I can't imagine a coach in that category that isn't a total proven failure taking the Kansas job. They should be looking at FCS programs, trying to lure a guy like Klieman at NDSU or John Grass Jacksonville State. Those guys have had sustained success and would possibly not be too good to consider the job. Kansas needs to aspire to being a stepping stone job at this point.

    I think they could land Matt Wells, Lance Leipold, Josh Heupel, or Joey Freshwater

    Heupel was born and raised in South Dakota and makes $1.7 million at UCF so at a minimum Kansas could force them to pay up......Freshwater needs money to pay Layla and bag new hoes and Leipold had a strong DIII run and has Buffalo playing great

  2. hahaha Louisville sucks I would prefer they win, but it looks like not a chance in hell now

    and welcome to college football tipped INT your first college play ever and I love all the transfers from Louisville

  3. kind of pulling for Louisville simply because their season is already fucked and Syracuse is highly overrated I am pulling for the ACC to end the year with 2 ranked teams

    petrino is a piece of shit, but maybe a few wins will screw Louisville into keeping him next year and getting even shittier

  4. 1 hour ago, Jhawk said:

    I think that would be part of the deal you would have to think.  But ask yourself this, given where we have been for the last 8 years, is there a quality coach you could bring in that would have more clout than Miles in hiring and retaining quality assistants?  Since we are now known as the place coaches go to die I highly doubt a major applewhite would come here and I very much highly doubt he would attract quality assistants to leave comfortable situations to come here.  So if we try to find the next young guy then we are probably promoting RB/OL/WR coaches to OC and DL/LB/Secondary coaches to DC.  That is a massive risk given the situation and the realignment boogieman coming down the road.  Not to mention that if they actually do have success then a better program would snatch them up in 2-3 years anyway and we're right back where we started.

    With Miles, you know you're going to have him for a while and that signals to the market that the jobs of the assistants would be safe as well.  Further, Les isn't going to be taking off for UT in 3-4 years if he has success because those schools won't come after a 68-69 year old coach.

    The bottom line is that it makes far too much sense for KU and if miles really does want to coach again then it makes sense for him if no one else is making his phone ring.

     

    Major would take the job in a heart beat unless he is regarded as fuck

    he needs to GTFO Houston ASAP because he is in a now win situation there where the fans and worse the administration believe that 10 wins is the minimum to keep your job AND they want you to sign a ridiculous buyout

    but Kansas has said experienced P5 coach so Major is not in that category

  5. 8 minutes ago, Texas25 said:

    The only difference between the way LSU fired Les and the way we fired Mack, is LSU didn't let Les hang around until he gutted the program. Les doesn't still have it, LSU pushed him out before it got to the point where the program would have to rebuild.

    Les' last 3 years (not including the year he got fired): 10-3, 8-5, 9-3... 27-11

    Mack's last 3 years: 8-5, 9-4, 8-5... 25-14

    Really not that much of a difference. Hiring a has been is never the answer for a program that needs energy and a total rebuild. Les was 28-21 at Oklahoma State... What do you think is going to happen at Kansas now that he is 65? If Kansas wants to be competitive they would make a run at Seth Littrell who would likely bring Graham Harrell with him, those two would turn their offense around by the end of year 1. You see it all across the country, Syracuse, Purdue, Baylor (under Art), Texas Tech (Leach), Hawaii, Fresno State, UCF, North Texas (Littrell), Washington State (Leach), the list goes on and on of programs that are built around offense because it is the easiest side of the ball to mask talent deficiencies and exploit the little talent you do have (in Kansas case, Pooka Williams). Very rarely do you see a poor program that has been bad for years get turned around by defense. Iowa State is the only recent example I can think of, as well as Rutgers under Schiano.

     

    the problem with what you are saying is that what Littrell and Harrell (if Harrell even came with him) brings nothing new to what the Big 12 defenses know about

    I think Littrell is a good coach and if he is smart he will get away from the shit hole that is north Texas state even if it for an AAC job, but he is not going to get it done at Kansas

    everyone knows exactly what he will run and ho to defend it and even places like Baylor and Texas Tech are going to out recruit him Vs Kansas

     Fresno and Hawaii are two of the "better" programs in the MWC especially Fresno and Hawaii benefits from the big ass Tongans and other Islanders

    Syracuse and Purdue are running something that is UNCOMMON in their conference and even if the ACC does have some similar offenses Syracuse still has better facilities than a lot of other ACC programs it is not like the ACC is loaded with programs that give a shit about football hence the fact that it was basically FSU and Clemson and now it is just Clemson carrying the load....other teams in the ACC that have good seasons are just doing so because they have a decent coach and recruiter no matter the system they run

    and leach at WSU has still done jack shit of significance and I am sure this year will be the same.....yea he wins some games recently against shit OOC and the rest of the PAC 12 has pretty much gone to shit and he is there to benefit from that, but it will not last (between new coaches coming in, lazy recruiting and a tendency to self destruct) long enough for him to even do shit of significance

    I am not arguing that KU is looking to be "great" they would accept what WSU has right now for a long time from any coach, but they are not going to get that in the Big 12 running an offense that 60% of the Big 12 runs and that is FAILING a number of them (like OkState, TCU, and even Tech to a degree with a slight exception for this season)

    there is a reason Snyder at KSU was able to make it work for so long because he was the outlier (although now he does not innovate, his recruiting has gone to shit probably because of questions about how long he will be there and everyone knows what to expect every year) and there is a reason that ISU was able to improve.....because they went with something DIFFERENT

    and I would expect that Miles if he really wants to coach has at least been trying to pick up some things to change and he will recruit a hell of a lot better than Seth Littrell will

    it is not a bash on Littrell, but he has a benefit from being in a totally shitty conference, playing in the half of the conference that has just let their programs go to shit, some scheduling that has worked out for him and he can clearly coach somewhat well, but he has also shit the bed already this season and probably will some more before it is done.....and most of all he is not nearly well enough known or proven to think that he will go to Kansas and do the same shit that 60% of the Big 12 does and do it better than the others do.....that is a horrible bet for many reasons.....he is Kliff without the stupid GQ attitude and the total "don't give a shit" attitude about defense, special teams, clock management and discipline (although he has not shown to be great at several of those either) 

    Kliff got lucky because no matter what stupid leach fans think Tubberville left Kliff with some decent talent and because Tech has given him forever and a day to get to 8 wins while KU does not have that luxury nor will they improve trying to wait it out.....especially running the same offense that is failing at OkState, just doing meh at Tech, is just OK at TCU without a great QB, and that Baylor has really changed up and that OU has the top athletes for

    Les may well fail wherever he ends up (if anywhere), but I believe he has been biding his time to get back to coaching and to make it work Vs. Mack where it was clear from day 1 after he was fired from Texas that he no longer had the will or the desire to try again anywhere else

    and true LSU fired Les before it all fell apart, but it was falling apart at LSU as much or more because their fans were so tired of getting shitted on by Saban that had left them and was/is now at Bama and at a program like LSU, Texas, USC, tOSU or the like once the fans and the media and everyone else turns on you then you better develop a heart murmur or some brain eating amoebas and GTFO to "retire" and really you should do that after your first 9 win season after a top 1-5 season....corch irving mayor is an asshole and a pile of shit, but he sure as fuck understands the idea of GTFO when things are good and before they go to shit and I give him a lot of credit for that as far as building a rep (saban did the same except well he fell into Bama)

    I don't think you can look at what Les or a similar coach did at LSU and say "well he got fired can't coach" when the fact is the fans and media ruins their own shit worse than anyone...does that mean he has studied up, rested, tanned, has an O and OC in place to be successful at Kansas who the fuck knows, but if I was Kansas I would damn sure take that risk over Littrell (even though I like Litrell personally and he has done well at a perennial shit pile) especially considering Littrell is going to run the same shit that Big 12 defenses see 6 times a season at least and he will be doing it with Kansas recruits for several seasons starting out

  6. 19 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

    That wasn’t my question. Do you think he was a good coach? He was a heck of a head coach/CEO type and was absolutely the right man for the job when he got hired.

    But do you think he can coach? Other than delegating responsibility and out talenting everyone, could he identify a weakness in something and correct? Or just throw people/money at the problem?

    he was a very good coach when he had the fire

    he would be a terrible coach now because he has become soft as fuck and he is too nice and frets over pissing people off or looking like a bad guy

    and as for a comparison of Fat Charlie Front Butt Vs Les......Fat Charlie had already proven he was a loser college coach at ND......Les so far has proven he can be a decent coach at OkState and leave them in a decent position for a guy that was not even yet a man to take over and improve and that Les can step up to a bigger stage and have success

    can Les do that again who knows, but all signs point to the fact that he wants to coach again and I doubt it is just to collect a check

    Mack proved he could take over for something called Wally English at Tulane and at least get them to 6 wins and the he proved he could take over at UNC and tear a program down completely and rebuilt it to a program that was ranked 6 out of his last 7 seasons including one in the top 10 and one in the top 5.5

    then he showed he could step up at Texas and better that after some wine and cheese faget

    so it is hard to say that Mack Brown was not a good coach when he got a terrible Tulane program with nothing going for it to a bowl and then built UNC into a really high quality program before he left and had a damn good run (while he gave a shit) at Texas....I don't think that post Dick Crum UNC was the kind of place where a head coach was just more of an "overseer" I think it was a place where a head coach had to coach and Mack Brown did a damn good job there

    post-Texas Mack Brown would be a terrible coach because he is more interested in the kids having fun and making friends and giving out false platitudes (he is the John McCain of college coaching now)

    we have yet to know if post-LSU Les is Mack Brown or someone that gives a shit and wants to go out having proven something

  7. 9 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

    Do you think Mack Brown was a good coach?

     

    yes right up to and until the time when he thought Texas let you keep your job based on what you did in the past

    he was good when he put effort into recruiting instead of just collecting *s

    he was good when he had to deal with hiring new DCs (and when Auburn had a fresh supply of new good DCs)

    he was good when Greg Davis actually could craft an offense around some talent that had some similarities to what systems they fit into

     

    once Mack thought it was on "automatic" and he could recruit by reading Dave Cambell's and once he got lazy about replacing the DCs and once he got lazy about making sure the players on O at least fit into some type of system it all fell apart

    and then it really fell apart when he thought he could just get a few young guys for coordinators and split up their duties so no one had any real control and then Mack could go back to his office and look at his collection of coaching shit

     

    then when he found out that was not going to work and he became obstinate and thought that UT owed him a job he turned to shit

     

    but the years just before Vince, during Vince and with Colt were pretty damn good

  8. 8 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

    How do you figure? Unless he’s willing to move to an actual offense that throws the football or run the triple option, they’re gonna suck dick. The guy is a terrible fucking coach. His preferred offense didn’t work with the talent level available to him at LSU but somehow it’s gonna be the answer for Kansas.

    that is just BS in 12 seasons (including the last when he was fired after 4 games) he was ranked in 9 of those seasons (so 75%) and he won a MNC and played for a second one

    he was ranked in the top 10 in five of those 12 seasons and in the top five in four of those seasons (so he was in the top five in 25% of his seasons)

    his lowest rankings were #17 two seasons.....hard to say someone is a terrible coach when they are ranked #17 or higher in 75% of the seasons they coached and in the top five in 25% of the seasons they coached

    and not to kiss the ass of the SEC SEC SEC, but he was coaching in a place where pretty much anything goes for 75% of their programs when it comes to doing what it takes to win football and where programs will hire and fire coaches every 3 or 4 years until they find one that can win and then fire him a few years after he does not so you have to constantly adjust to what is going on with the other teams in the league and if a couple get momentum and your fans start to shit on you it can all fall apart fast

    again to be clear at places like Texas, OU, USC and the like there is the massive pressure to win, but you are not dealing with the fact that even the also rans in your conference just being willing to spend pretty much anything and everything to get to 8+ wins and then hope that coach can do better for a year or two before they have to fire him if he does not

    it does not necessarily make those programs any better, but it does mean that you are constantly having to adjust for the new flavor of the year

     

  9. 3 minutes ago, rickyspub said:

    Of course a big reason Louisville has more ticket sales and contributions is because they have been relevant over the past several years even going back to their final years in the AAC under Strong. If Purdue thinks Brohm is the guy, an extra $2-2.5M/yr will be earned back many times over in ticket sales and contributions. Not a risk-free endeavor, as you say, considering Purdue's lack of history and location.

    I agree they are unlikely to do it because I don't think their administration is the type to push the envelope on coaching salaries, but they are already paying Brohm $3.3M which is still ridiculous if you just look at what Purdue pays for important faculty and administrators, rather than the world of college football with out of control spending on coaches with short resumes.

    yea they had a consistent $14 million or more in tickets going back all the way to 2005 the $9 million was just the last couple of years

    so one could think with a better team they could get a return on their investment......but of course the last couple of years have been "good" years for them especially Vs the years just before Brohm (when they still sold $14 million in tickets) so who knows if that return is there

    and some of that ticket revenue is probably sports besides football and I think there can be a big argument made that a school like Purdue is the one that really took it in the ass being placed over in the Leaders Division.....IK that happened a while back, but it has taken time for some of this realignment crap and the TV scheduling bullshit to really start crushing in-person fan support.....and a place like Purdue is one that will probably struggle with that and have a hard time getting it back especially playing in the Leaders Division with all the rest of the apathy teams

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