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So why then was he selected as Honorable Mention All-Big12 for the 2018 season, YOU. FUCKING. MORON. durrr?

I feel the same way about you.

Whether I'm high or not is not the issue. Did you not read the previous post in this thread explaining how an unusual amount of Bamba's blocks came on outside shots away from the rim? I'll admit that he was dominant--at times--especially early in the season. But he was not consistently dominant in any single game nor through any consistent stretch of the season. There were games when we looked better without him on the court than with him. He was constantly pulled away from the rim by his man on defense and he did not facilitate the offense well with passes out of the post nor were his own post moves very polished as all. He did exactly what you'd expect from a great potential physical talent who is under 20 years old and still learning the team game.

Nothing. You want me to quote the 4-page stat spam instead?

Thanks for spamming 4 pages of Bamba stats. Yeah we really needed that. If you watched the games then you know as well as I that Bamba wasn't the difference-maker and "rim protector" that he probably will be in a few years in the NBA. He was raw, he was a freshman, and his impact was not dominant towards us winning games. Any big we have on our roster now is capable of being just as valuable by playing smart, tough, efficient NCAA basketball in their senior year.

The mistake where you claimed for 3 months that we wouldn't make the dance and then we did. That mistake. You were wrong then, why should we believe you now?

Ah, the real trolls have arrived. You are UTGrad, right? You spent the entire season last year telling us how much Shaka sucks and how we weren't going to make the dance. You were wrong. Yet here you are, forecasting doom and gloom again, with your little sidekick Immortal who also wrongly predicted our team would fail to make the dance. Don't you guys learn from your mistakes? The team is on a positive trajectory. The cavalry for the next few years is arriving.

No, it's not ridiculous at all to point out that we played a number of games against tournament-level teams without these two players and won enough of them to make the dance. It is hard evidence that the returning players can get the job done. It bodes well for next year. Add in a top-10 recruiting class and the only ridiculous viewpoint in this thread is your claim that OU's the only team we'll be better than.

Nope. I said 2019 Texas will be better than 6 teams in the league, that doesn't make us top 3. If you're gonna quote me, at least get it right.

I'd say Lamarcus Aldridge in the year he took us to the Elite 8 was probably a more efficient and overall more valuable post player to his team than freshman Bamba was last year. But how does Bamba's season measure up against the history of every KU and Duke big in history? Was he better than Boozer? The KU thug twins? The fact is UT doesn't HAVE a history of elite bigs. Barnes was never able to recruit elite centers to Texas and this was a major problem. Saying Bamba was the best big in Texas history is like saying you have the biggest dick in a room full of white boys.

Bamba put up good numbers, especially with blocks and rebounding but he was far from a great college big. He was often out of position on both offense and defense and took plenty of poor shots etc.. Typical stuff from a freshman who's guaranteed to be a millionaire in a year's time--not so typical of hard-working guys who have been in the NCAA for 2/3 years. He will be missed, sure. But he wasn't "all that" in his one freshman season here.

Hint: I'm not trolling. I really am stoked about our returning players, our recruiting class, our coaching staff, and next year. Crazy, I know! BTW, why are you so obsessed with neg-repping every one of my posts?

Team stats where a player is "on the floor" vs "not on the floor" have been shown to have accuracy problems. There's just too much noise in the data with 4 other guys out there doing stuff. If you watched the games last season then you should be excited about 6'-9" Jericho Sims coming back, plain and simple. We also have in the frontcourt 6-9 Osetkowski, 6-9 Kemaka Hepa, 6-10 Jaxson Hayes, and 6-8 Royce Hamm. None of those guys have the physique of Bamba, but they all have the potential to be more effective NCAA players than Bamba was in his one erratic freshman season here.

Do it. I'm happy to renew my sub every year. One of the best sites on the whole net. Oh and btw, I think our roster might finally be ready for Havok this year if Shaka wants to go that route.

This is such nonsense I have to call it out. First off, why are you citing Jones as a loss in this conversation about off-season changes? We already lost Jones early in the season last year and still made the dance. The rest of the guys you cited there MIGHT NOT HAVE GOTTEN PLAYING TIME on this year's roster and that is the REASON THEY TRANSFERED. That is nothing like TCU losing Brodziansky and Williams and all the other senior leader losses around the Big12. Secondly, I love your wording on our conference record, "tied for the second-worst record in the Big 12 last year." LOL. We finished tied for 6th place with 3 other teams with a record of 8-10. Four of the 5 teams finishing ahead of us went deep in the Big Dance. There is nothing shameful about our conference record last year that we put up WITHOUT Jones.

Yeah, well, if this were a KU board, or some other basketball school, you'd hear from more people like me for whom college basketball is their number one sport. Here at UT we've got some fans who really know their shit when it comes to football, but basketball not so much. Case in point, the idiot Rex Kramer, who spent all season last year proclaiming that we would not be a tourney team. And he was widely backed by other morons like UTGrad and James Harden.

Is there something specific I've said that you disagree with, or are you just firing a shot across the bow?

Kansas loses Graham and Mikaliuk, their 2 best players. By "Lawnghorn's" logic, that means they are bound to suck next year.

TCU, Tech, ISU, OSU, and Baylor. I guess not KU, and not sure on KSU and WVU. So that's better than 6, not sure on 2, probably not better than 1.

Yeah I hear you, but in practice you don't really have to do that. Look at the schools with the top 10 recruiting classes every year and it's a pretty good indicator of which teams are going to be the top 10 teams in the near future (most of them already occupying those positions).

In some ways that's important. But they finished 65th in Pomeroy which is not good. They had 2 senior starters last year, one of which was their star, Maten. The reason I mention incoming class is because it's an indicator of overall program trajectory. When we roll in their with a roster that is basically at a higher talent level than their's at every position, it could get pretty ugly for them.

What's their incoming class look like, compared to our's?

cupcake city.

Haha, these guys be shooting 3's and then PJ Tucker gets a try. But PJ can't shoot no 3.

This is so stupid I don't even know where to begin. First off, for someone who just started posting on the basketball forum, you sure do have a lot of stupid shit to say. 1. Arguing Coleman was our best player this year isn't even close to "insane." Take Coleman off the team and we're just fucked. We lose more games without him than sans any other player. Sure you can make an argument Bamba was our "best" player, but no one impacted the games more than Coleman as our lead ball handler. He was the most valuable, and therefore the best. 2. Sims kicked ass. Without a doubt he kicked ass given he was freshman. Even without that caveat he played well, efficiently, and promisingly. There is no takeaway as a fan about Sims other than "cool, it's really good we have this guy." 3. I am not relying on any progression beyond the normal strides a player makes from year to year. 4. I never said anything of the sort that we would've made the dance if Bamba had been out all year. What I did say is that in a must-win scenario to end the season versus teams like West Virginia, in order to make the dance, we did. Without Bamba. This is because of guys like DO and Sims and Coleman who are returning, unlike Bamba. 5. Our recruiting class is fucking awesome this year. What is your angle trying denegrate the recruiting class? That's just stupid. We are basically bringing in the best players from Texas high school basketball, and some even out-of-state. Texas is a hotbed for high school basketball talent and we are bringing in the cream of the crop. What's bad about that? Nothing. 6. Yeah you made this hypo about Roach coming back but then you kept slamming this point of "losing our 2 best players". Since we got Coleman back I have no idea wtf you're talking about, and I have even less clue if you're considering Roach one of our 2 best players? Your shit's all retarded and you talk like a fag. 7. As has been mentioned our conference record is going to improve just because the Big12 is going to be weaker. This helps make the dance. We're going to have pieces to build around in Coleman, DO, Sims, and Febres. Then we bring some of the absolute top talent from around the country in our recruiting class. It is not in the least bit insane to project the 2018-2019 Longhorns to the dance, and all the preseason media outlets will back me up on that. YOU are the fucking stupid one here without understanding of how college basketball works and with no ability to evaluate talent.