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Chuckie Finster

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  1. Personally, I think Pete is by far the most electable option at this point (and I've seen him have weird, inexplicable crossover appeal to a lot of Republican voters like my parents) but there is a key Democratic demographic that really does not seem to be on board with him to date, and I have no idea how he wins them over. (most electable does not necessarily mean I think he would win, FWIW)
  2. White guy under 55 who is capable of holding a conversation with stupid people. Aka a unicorn in Democratic circles.
  3. The fact that millions of Americans DON'T find this shit embarrassing is such a horrific indictment of this country.
  4. Correct. Dems need to hammer the Taco thing until it kills him. Reactions like the one yesterday are not sustainable.
  5. Or maybe players will be buddy buddy with him to try and score one of the Survivor cameos he gives out each season. I'm genuinely shocked he is coming back.
  6. So tomorrow morning they announce the returning players that will make up the cast of Survivor 50, but it sounds like the list got spoiled:
  7. Fox News also is the reason I’m bad at math. Jokes aside, I’m not necessarily saying folks watching that specific channel is the issue. But the absolute polarization that has resulted from the way they cover politics and how it has seeped into all corners of political discourse is the root cause of most of this.
  8. 9 elections ago = 1996. You’ll never guess what year Fox News was founded… I know it seems too easy of an explanation, but there really is a clear inflection point of how we got here.
  9. I'm still bitter about having to play 'Bama at fucking 11am in Texas in early September.
  10. I know logic left the chat a long time ago, but worth pointing out that his military parade is estimated to cost the country about half of this "completely unacceptable" trade deficit.
  11. I hate him so much. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
  12. “We have fuck you money, they have cartel money” Maybe the greatest sentence I’ve ever seen on that website.
  13. "X is bad because they endorsed Donald Trump" is the type of shit that will continue to lose Dems elections. You admit that he has "seemingly progressive views." A competent party would see that as an opportunity. He isn't Ben Shapiro who is a Republican at his core. He's absolutely capable of being won over with the proper messaging. For someone who expressed the need for Democrats to "fight" earlier in this thread, writing off all Trump voters as "bad" is the definition of surrendering. And again, this isn't a desire to move the platform to the center or to pull a Newsom. It's making the effort to put the widely popular platform in front of people who wouldn't encounter it otherwise. (And I agree with all of the "creating a left Rogan is a bad idea" takes. That will win over 0 voters.)
  14. Been rooting for Joe just because we haven’t seen an old school game like his in a while, but Kyle absolutely deserved the win.
  15. The first 40-something straight, white male who can talk like AOC while also being able to shoot the shit with guy podcasters will be the next Democratic political star. Kind of alarming that there isn’t one that comes to mind.
  16. It means don’t be scared to go into “unfriendly” spaces to pitch your ideas to that audience. And not implicating that this is what you are saying, but assuming that your third paragraph describes every male Republican voter is the opposite of fighting. It’s giving up. It’s the easy conclusion. It’s exactly how you lose an entire generation of potential voters.
  17. I think we are largely aligned: you are absolutely correct, Dems should not try and win over the lost souls. Where we disagree, I think, is I do not agree that every “white kid spawned by Republicans” is a lost soul, nor do I agree that attempting to meet them where they are is a lost cause. If anything, that line of thinking is a self-fulfilling prophecy, as we have seen over the last decade. Many of them merely just want to felt heard, which only one group is even attempting at this point. And Dems don’t even need to change their messaging: their platform on employment, healthcare, education, etc. is widely popular… they just have to figure out how to effectively get their ideas to that audience. Honestly, writing them completely off proves that the bullshit they’ve been told about Democrats over the last decade by the bad faith right wing commentators is not all wrong.
  18. Writing off an entire generation is as useless as the shit Schumer is doing. Yes, there are kids that are unreachable and make great Comedy Central clips. Those have existed in every generation since the dawn of time. But there’s a fuckton more who are merely voting for the only side that has actually made an effort to court their vote. They can be won back, but it won’t be accomplished by lumping them together with the truly lost ones.
  19. "You are filled with hatred because they *point to Republican opponent* want you to be." 1) Gives everyone a common target and 2) eliminates personal accountability.
  20. Genuine lol here
  21. Rereading this post and hoping the phrasing isn't insensitive to @troph, etc. I know the fight for your rights is a REAL issue that you are fighting every day and it is not my intent to diminish at all. Just trying to convey that issues like wage inequality, healthcare, education, etc. are issues that ALL of us, regardless of race, sexual preference, or religion, have to deal with and we should encourage elections to focus on those rather than the ones that divide us.
  22. YES! "They want to focus on the Facebook issues, I want to focus on the real ones" is an insanely easy message to convey.
  23. Core Democratic Party ideas are >>>>>> popular than the Democratic Party, and that is largely because the Democratic Party has allowed the Republican Party to define them. The "we won't speak to that massively popular podcast host because he has said nice things about Trump" attitude will only result in more alienation and more election losses. Young white dudes don't hate the Democratic Party because they hate their ideas. They hate the Democratic Party because their only knowledge of the Party comes out of the mouths of right wingers. Until an effort is made to counter this messaging, the end result shouldn't be surprising.
  24. I'm just so fucking exhausted. A rhetorical question but why is decency so fucking impossible for these people?
  25. The truth of the matter is that you have described a small, politically insignificant portion of the population. There’s a much MUCH larger portion of the population, however, who are generally accepting in their everyday lives, but maybe lean a little right. They get defensive when told that they “hate women, brown people, etc” and end up siding with that ideology when forced to make a call at the ballot box. The key is not to tell them that they need to change, most people don’t respond well to that. The key is to remove the issue as a political football altogether. Give everyone a new target for their anger (the Republican politicians fomenting this hatred) and acceptance quite likely will follow naturally once we are in the battle together.
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