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But muh CDC says teenage boys that have already had covid and have myocarditis with first dose should still get second dose. #science #experts

What about this one?

I’m truly amazed at CR posters inability to see how fucked this really is. Do you think the government insisting these disseminators of misinformation being completely deplatformed will help with vaccination efforts? Which is presumably the reason they’re doing it. It will have minimal effect. But it sets the precedent for other moves by the government to handle misinformation that will be more invasive or dubious. The unvaccinated will get fucked. Why do Y’all care? The rates of vaccinated getting dying are so low it’s inconsequential. Just go about your business. Please imagine someone you hate having this power. How about GWB squashing all “misinformation” about WMDs? Or President DeSantis or whatever. My impression is that y’all think it’s good and you’ll get a few years to really turn the screws before it matters. May really backfire. Plus it’s an extremely warped way of viewing governments role.

I was thinking more that the environmental factors that make the sunbelt prone to summer covid waves (heat, everyone sharing a/c and ventilation) could cause enough exposure to make it peak by this time. It’s probably hopium given that delta spreads easier and maybe in different situations, but I saw it as an interesting coincidence.

Pretty interesting that this is the week it peaked last summer.

No strippers typically say they’re in nursing school.

If I remember right, you unfortunately still have lingering effects? If that were my case I would definitely lean toward getting vaxxed on top of the natural immunity as well. Everybody’s situation is different that has had it.

I was wrong on that. mea culpa. That’s from this thread discussing natural immunity and vaccine immunity. She thinks boosters should instead be sent to unvaccinated adults overseas. Also, another link discussing natural immunity. Again I am not saying people shouldn’t get immunized. I’m saying people that have been infected and recovered have adequate immunity.

Sorry to see you bend the knee.

These people just might be desperate enough to pull it off.

Good thing the government never provides misinformation.

Hey you stupid motherfucker, I’m not arguing against vaccines dumbass. You should get the vaccine. I quoted the part referencing natural immunity. Just about the only people that shouldn’t get it are those with documented infections. That’s my point. JFC Well, I can’t read Hebrew, but in a nation with almost complete vaccination compliance, most of the recovered didn’t get vaccinated. And those that did got one shot. Seems to me like they told those people you don’t need to get it.

Sure. It falls under speculation now, but this is the best statistical breakdown I’ve seen of this new wave of infections. It needs to be analyzed further, but it appears to be pretty significant.

Not a clinical study, but there is data coming out of Israel that isn’t being discussed here at all, possibly because it’s released in Hebrew. Here’s a good breakdown of delta in Israel. And the relevant portion on natural Immunity. Who isn’t getting Delta? Well, it’s hard to say for sure because of confounders in the data, but it looks like recovered people — people who had tested positive for the coronavirus in a past PCR test — are massively under-represented. Recovered people are around 9% of Israel’s population, but they’re less than 1% of current cases. That has led to speculation that recovery from past Covid is more protective against infection from the Delta Variant than vaccination. Known recovered people in Israel are mostly not vaccinated, though some chose to get a single booster dose There could be other explanations for this result. The Delta wave is, for now at least, not affecting the communities hardest hit by Israel’s previous Covid waves: Ultra Orthodox Jews and Israeli Arabs. So perhaps recovered people aren’t being exposed to the virus yet. But I’m not sure that’s enough to explain the sharp difference. From data I was passed last week, recovered people were testing at only 0.1% positivity, compared to more than 1% for vaccinated people.

This is funny because that was 2 or 3 avatars ago. It upset CR folks because, “Bro, they would never wanna hang out with you, bro!”

Well, we have one of the most aggressively vaxxed countries in the world where most of the recovered patients received no vax. A small amount received one shot. I believe that’s due to guidelines in their country although I can’t find them now. If only we could see how they’ve done. Oh wait, there’s new data. Who isn’t getting Delta? Well, it’s hard to say for sure because of confounders in the data, but it looks like recovered people — people who had tested positive for the coronavirus in a past PCR test — are massively under-represented. Recovered people are around 9% of Israel’s population, but they’re less than 1% of current cases. That has led to speculation that recovery from past Covid is more protective against infection from the Delta Variant than vaccination. Known recovered people in Israel are mostly not vaccinated, though some chose to get a single booster dose There could be other explanations for this result. The Delta wave is, for now at least, not affecting the communities hardest hit by Israel’s previous Covid waves: Ultra Orthodox Jews and Israeli Arabs. So perhaps recovered people aren’t being exposed to the virus yet. But I’m not sure that’s enough to explain the sharp difference. From data I was passed last week, recovered people were testing at only 0.1% positivity, compared to more than 1% for vaccinated people. I wouldn’t be surprised if natural infection turned out to be more protective against variants than spike protein vaccination. It makes sense that the body’s immune system would find more ways to attack the whole pathogen and would recognise different parts of it compared to the changing spike in variants. 🤔🤔🤔

This sucks.

Lol. BLM associate themselves with it. Their founders are “trained Marxists” in their own words and tweet Rest in Power for Fidel. Whether people think that is discrediting is up to them.

The medical community is not one person or anything. Initially they wanted anyone and everyone to get shots just to do it. Now people are starting to come around to the fact that it’s unnecessary and in fact probably wasteful for someone like me to take 2 shots.

Lol

You mad? There’s minimal, if any, benefit for me. And only risks, though rare. Why are y’all so upset? The vaccines are great. You should get them if you haven’t gotten covid already. If you have gotten covid, you don’t need the vaccine. That’s it.

You don’t understand scientific evidence. There’s different types and levels of evidence. I’ll take the word of an Israeli Fauci-type over a lab study. I’ve found this doc quoted in Times of Israel etc. She’s legit and her saying that is significant. The language barrier makes it seem weird. I get that. Data will come. As far as who’s selfish or not, I’d argue it’s selfish for us to use doses of vaccine on people who have recovered rather than sending them out into the world. There’s a much bigger benefit sending them to Brazil or Africa or whatever.