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I hope so….but they are getting rain Friday and a frontal passage….so north wind on Saturday, possibly slick field turf. And knowing those cheating fucks….they’ll probably run sprinklers out there to irrigate plastic. Anything to slow us down.

I have some 2002 pieces as well….money wise, they’re about the same price as the giant beats. Extremely popular and for good reason. One thing I have noticed is Paiste cymbals run very consistent weight wise….within 10-20 grams of each other. You can feel more confident buying sight unseen and good chance you get the sound you want. Zildjian on the other hand….wild weight variances for any given model. I mean hundreds of grams. For example, that k custom brilliant ride I have, you can get that identical cymbal and it might weigh 2750…and the next one weighs almost 3100. Much more difficult to buy without the weight disclosed….or you can hear it in person before buying

That k custom I have is a 20” “brilliant” which is quite heavy at almost 3000 grams. It’s my heavy ride with an absolute clear and piercing bell. The ride right above it is a paiste Masters 22” thin crash/ride…..and it’s quite a bit more money than the k custom. Cool cymbal tho….that one would work for jazz…the k custom not so much. The paiste has a crazy cool, almost gong like sound when you hit it and it opens up fully

Setups are really subjective….currently, I’m 2 crashes, 2 rides and the hats, snare, toms, kicks pedals pretty conventional positioning. Subject to change.

It’s 16x16

I got the itch to add a 14 tom but have struck out finding anything in metallic silver. So….I came across this one and decided I’d add an “orphan” to the set. It’s a 14x10 rack, in outer oak veneer. It was built September 1979 and it has the internal “tone control” muffler which so far I really like. We’ll see if it stays rattle free…but so far so good. I’m running it in a low profile Pearl snare stand.

I don’t dismiss the entire thing….because there are people that believe it. In fact, Tama was compelled enough to believe, or enough market forces were being applied…,but they made a tom rack system that attaches to their kick drum with no drilling at all IIRC. They claim the best of both worlds. It does look pretty slick, just not sure I believe the tonal difference hype

Some aficionados would say yes and only buy virgins, they’ll say it resonates more “purely”. I have both and can’t tell a difference. My renown is virgin….the phonic is drilled, with a huge weighty mount, then a massive mount rod goes into the kick…..that phonic resonates the most pure kick sound I’ve ever heard. My opinion…snake oil

Well, it just means it’s not drilled for a mount. For example, Gretsch just calls their 22x14 “virgin” kick a “no-mount” on their spec sheet. But….if you go to Sweetwaters website for their advertisement of that same kick, Sweetwater will call it a “virgin” kick. So the “virgin” description is used in the industry somewhat

Sure here you go

I finally got the renowns out of the drum room and the phonics situated and tuned. I wasn’t for sure initially, but I’m really not missing the extra 14 floor the renowns had at all. I have more room 2 up 1 down and it’s easier not having to turn so far to reach the 16. These fuckers rumble in the jungle

You’ll get great advice. Scenario A….try to buy local or known party. If that doesn’t work, and you still want vintage, even shipped….request pics of the shells bearing edges and interiors. If a seller will not do that….move on down the road. They probably have something to hide

Especially buying vintage….be careful. This phonic i just bought, the 16 floor has a crack in an inner ply. It does not affect the way it sounds because it sounds orgasmic and you’d never know looking at it because it’s fucking beautiful….but still pisses me off none the less. Besides some online pics, I bought sight unseen. And they were shipped from Germany. Not sure if the shipper did it or the seller was not truthful, but I bitched and got a partial refund.

Rip…this one is for you. Steve on a massive Sonor Phonic kit in 1983

Sonor introduced this 9 ply phonic beech shell in 1975 for their centennial anniversary….and those Germans did not mess around. They decided to bring a bazooka to a knife fight. This is the phonic 12 vs renown 12