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Posts posted by hpslugga
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1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:
"The Senate is full of Republican political hacks who didn't do their job" is much easier to explain than "Impeachment was never even voted on." And I say this as someone who has repeatedly said impeachment would probably be a bad political move for Democrats, although every day I move closer to the other side.
At this point the only reason I keep from crossing that bridge is Mike Pence.
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36 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:
This is good. I would add ‘tax cuts pay for themselves’ to your bulleted list as a recent example of the GOP’s acceptance of stupidity
The only reason I didn’t specifically list that one is because it’s the equally retarded cousin of the ‘Trickle Down Economics works’ canard.
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Btw just a show of hands, how many of you have actually read the report cover to cover?
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2 minutes ago, Enchubben said:
There’s the tolerant left I was looking for. You go high when we go low right?
Notwithstanding that pitiful understand of what "the left" is, it's not intolerant to not tolerate intolerance.
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38 minutes ago, Enchubben said:For the second time, I do, but they deserved to be called out as such. And if they are going to claim that they are politically impartial and unbiased, then they should back it up. None of these outlets are actually impartial, so they should stop pretending and claiming it.
Here's my problem with the implied presumption here, which is that both Democrats and Republicans deserve to be treated equally (a premise the Republicans, incidentally, rejected decades ago when they challenged and revoked the FCC's Fairness Doctrine).
Six years ago, Norman Ornstein and Thomas Mann of the very conservative Brookings Institute wrote an essay in which they explained that "the Republican Party has become a radical insurgency—ideologically extreme, scornful of facts and compromise, and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition." They're absolutely right about that. And when you are all those things that they accurately stated, you by definition cease to become a traditional parliamentary party. The problem is that both parties over the last four decades have shifted to the right. The Democrats today are basically the Republicans of the 1970's, and the Republicans today are a clown show that has drifted off the political spectrum entirely. It's profusely stupid, not to mention completely insane, to put these two groups on equal footing. It's not "political bias" to be dismissive of the notions that:
-Trickle Down Economics works
-Global Warming isn't real
-Prayer in school needs to be "made legal again"
-Planned Parenthood should be shut down
-The Good Guy with a Gun
-A national healthcare system is more financially disastrous than our financially disastrous system
-Intelligent Design needs to be mandated in science curricula (although they aren't sure if public education in general needs to exist or not)
-A wall needs to be built on our southern border
-Right to Work
-The minimum wage either needs to stay as it is or be obliterated entirelyAnd a host of other viewpoints that are every bit as stupid as they are purely evil. The media has absolutely no motivation, nor have they any legitimate reason, in promoting these viewpoints as being equally valid as their blue counterparts.
What I would take issue with in the media (and I know that they doubtlessly would fall into this) is when they weigh in on the infighting of the Democratic Party. In the tussles between the Bernie Sanders, AOC, Ilhan Omar, et al types against the traditional establishment, the media always seems to lend favorability to the latter group. That wouldn't be because the media itself is owned by corporations, who themselves are part of larger conglomerates, with target audiences (advertisers) and naturally lean in a certain ideological direction as a result of being constituted in such a way, would it?
23 minutes ago, David Dennison said:You should read the report.
Why do that when he can watch pundits, on a network with a vested interest in supporting the president, scream and yell about it 24/7. Same as reading a 448-page report with over 2,000 citations, right?
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7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
Just finished reading Appendix C of the Mueller Report which is Trump’s written responses to Mueller’s questions.
TL:DR summary:
It is an absolute beating to read. Almost every response begins with some variation of “I have no recollection, I do not recall” and sometimes followed by bragging about winning such and such states followed by attacking Hillary Clinton and citing “Clinton Cash” as his source of information.
Based on the responses, assuming Trump is telling the truth (he obviously isn’t), he could be the dumbest man alive.
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3 hours ago, NowThis said:two right wingers in love . This US Israel relationship is comically sad. Look at the scum in the picture, theives and liars.
Netanyahu says he’ll name Golan Heights town after Trump
Touring region on northern border, PM says move will honor US president’s recognition of Israeli sovereignty over disputed territory
Putin's gonna be pissed to learn that Bibi is trying to move in on his boyfriend.
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6 hours ago, lemonlime said:
Released from prison--absolutely.
Currently in prison--- I don't really give a fuck either way. But, a bigger issue is reducing the number of people in prison. We shouldn't be taking away fundamental rights, voting or otherwise, from many (most?) of the people currently incarcerated.
This is the conversation to have first.
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On 4/22/2019 at 2:14 PM, Brisketexan said:
I firmly oppose the death penalty.
But fuckers like this make it REAL hard.
This describes me to a T.
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21 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:
There. It’s been explained numerous times why obstruction applies whether a crime is proven or not. But you’re either too stupid to comprehend it, or you’re a troll. I’m betting both.
I was gonna say, since when have we seen any evidence that smart people choose to be trolls?
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25 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:
great summary. and infuriating that there are people still defending this criminal traitor.
That’s because people in this country easily confuse politics with team sports and cannot for the life of them understand the difference between the two.
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Can’t wait to see this guy in a champions showdown with Jennings...of course that means he has to fucking lose first.
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5 minutes ago, Kyle said:
So basically my argument is correct
You weren't making an argument. You were going off on some random tangent that has nothing to do with the real world, asserting it as fact, and attempted to shift the burden of proof onto those who cannot be paid enough to believe a single syllable that you type. You are a walking, breathing example of the Dunning Kruger effect. You posted something incredibly incoherent, assumed it to be gospel truth and threw stones from your glass house. That's the trademark of a fool.
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14 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:Governments that do shit like this when they have something to hide and essentially there’s no other valid reason, though I’m sure the realgreggyms of the world would have no problem whatsoever rectally deriving a series of bewildering inanities like the ones above explaining, what they believe in their tiny minds, absolutely everything.
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21 minutes ago, LongestHorn said:lulz.
“If I’m in Jerusalem and I put 500 Jewish settlers out here to the east and there’s 10,000 Arabs in here, if we draw the border to include them, either it ceases to be a Jewish state or you say the Arabs don’t get to vote – apartheid,” - libtard Mad Dog Mattis 2013
I wouldn’t bother
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People who support annexation have neither a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out.
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Oh and as to Netanyahu being re-elected, this is like Nixon winning a re-elect AFTER Watergate, after the revelation that he interjected to scuttle peace negotiations between us and the Vietnamese, after it was revealed what a horrid backlash the so-called War on Drugs had, after COINTELPRO, after the bombing of Cambodia/Laos, and after the public release of the Chilean documents. Only two words could sum that, and this, up: moral depravity
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On 4/9/2019 at 9:47 AM, Asithappens said:Yes, the Palestinians are replete with moral authority.
They don’t have to be. It’s funny how it’s only black and white when it has to fit a fairy tale. You’ll never see a Palestinian arguing that they shouldn’t have to negotiate with the Israelis because the “Israelis are not replete with moral authority,” but that’s almost always the typically pathetic used by Israel and their alleged “supporters.”
QuoteAgain, both sides are shitbags in many ways. Again, you refuse to recognize that fact.
No, you refuse to recognize reality by pretending to be neutral with these shittastic, factually challenged renderings. You try to whitewash history with these insipid “both sides” comments, and it works out for Israel in two ways:
1. You understate how morally bankrupt the Israeli government is
2. You overstate how morally bankrupt Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran/etc are
In the end, it looks like both sides are equally bad, thereby justifying the status quo. That’s...handy.
Meanwhile in reality, Israel literally has absolutely no legal right whatsoever to perform the actions they perform in ANY of the Occupied Territories. They have no right to erect settlements in the West Bank. They have no right to blockade Gaza. They have no right to militarily occupy East Jerusalem. They have no right to build a wall to protect those West Bank settlements. They have no right to turn Gaza into the world’s largest open air prison.
Palestine, on the other hand, has the absolute right to use any means, including violent force, to resist all of those things. They have the right to use violence to achieve self-determination. Again, belligerent reprisal is a legal right that occupied countries and peoples have.
Their occupiers enjoy no such right. They don’t have rights in the Occupied Territories; only have responsibilities, and they have failed to live up to even one of them.
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2 hours ago, bolverk said:My issue is that some believe the State of Israel is entitled to unilaterally annex territory in clear violation of international law, that military occupation has resulted in decades of oppression by refusing an entire population (a distinct ethnic group) the right to self-determination, and that those who oppose these policies are often accused of being anti-semitic due to the unique history of the Jewish people.
While I generally view this as a gross injustice, of which there are many in international affairs (Crimea for example), my emotional investment to this issue is due to our collective complicity for supporting them. Moreover, I acknowledge, accept, and wholeheartedly support the right of Israel to exist and defend itself, but I don't think they deserve a "pass" to turn around and ghettoize an entire people for a couple of generations to then just say "Fuck it. We want it all." which is precisely what Bibi and the Likud are finally admitting out in the open.
Any sane, moral person would take that exact position for that exact reason.
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"The United States government is in favor of democracy and human rights"
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7 minutes ago, bolverk said:I don't agree with him saying Eqypt is Israel's puppet state. I do, however, agree that they are ours. The military controls Eqypt and we control their army through our financial largesse.
If we want to give free rein to Israel, the Egyptian military will not stand in our way.
Correct, and given the reflexive nature of the US-Israeli relationship, the output of the policy is no different.
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57 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:Israel blockades the border between Gaza and Egypt? How do they do that?
20 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:Egypt is a big boy country. They are responsible for their own actions.
Egypt collaborates with the US and Israel. You’re either being dishonest again or you were completely comatose during the President-For-Life-Mubarak years. The idea that they’re a “big boy” country is a fucking joke.
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13 minutes ago, Asithappens said:And yet that approach is still less heinous than the policy of wiping Israel off the map.
Such a policy does not exist. You’re comparing fantasy to reality
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23 hours ago, Asithappens said:That's true, for the most part. But depending on how important the "right now" qualifier is, they do have somewhere to go: namely, other Arab/Muslim countries.
The people of Gaza literally cannot go anywhere. That sick blockade literally seals them in.
Just as a side note, that sentiment about “why don’t other Arab nations take them in” is particularly grotesque.
The Palestinians are entitled to self-determination inside their own country, they have incurred no obligation to look elsewhere, and accordingly, no other country has incurred responsibilities to them.
The only country in this equation that has responsibilities to meet is Israel, and they routinely fail those responsibilities at every possible turn. The sentiment you’re expressing is no different than when the Israeli leadership rejected the Algiers Declaration by saying that it opposes an “additional Palestinian state,” the implication being that Jordan is one. That’s like saying that the Jews don’t need Israel because they already have New York.
All of this is simply an excuse to evade the fact that since U.N. 242 was passed, Israel has incurred obligations that it not only has failed to live up to, it does not want to live up to them.
They have an obligation to completely withdraw from the Occupied Territories.
They have an obligation to completely withdraw its blockade of Gaza, as well as the hard border.
They have an obligation to dismantle the settlements, the wall that protects the settlements, to withdraw 100% of the settlers, and to withdraw any and all applications of the occupation (checkpoints, forfeit claims to water, etc).
Those are facts that they cannot weasel out of no matter how badly they do not want to relinquish their claims to the West Bank and the Golan Heights.
When you say that they should just go to Jordan, you’re offering apologetics for Israel’s immoral behavior in the Occupied Territories. That bullshit is unacceptable, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the real world.
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Supreme Court conservatives appear ready to OK Trump’s census citizenship question
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Does not suit party purposes.