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Posts posted by hpslugga
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Kanye
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8 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:So why use the term "Uncle Tom"?
I didn’t.
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Kanye
in Cloak Room
Almost forgot this pearl of wisdom.
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Kanye
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3 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:did you not watch it? if you did, what was your favorite policy point?
I’d like to know the answer to this as well.
Was it the iPlane or the flyest cars?
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Kanye
in Cloak Room
3 minutes ago, Kyle said:He must be getting too uppity for you.
That’s a canard. This has absolutely nothing to do with race, just like it has nothing to do with party politics. This has to do with the fact that Kanye West has absolutely nothing meaningful to offer to anyone interested in political discourse, and you’re embarrassing yourself by portraying this as Kanye against the fascists just because he’s “speaking his mind.” When one is out of one’s mind, one is incapable of speaking one’s mind.
8 minutes ago, Kyle said:Seriously. Kanye could have said literally the same thing next to Obama and the same people calling him mentally ill would be endorsing him for president in 2020.
Again, absolutely every word of this is absolutely wrong.
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Kanye
in Cloak Room
41 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:I would rather lock Don Lemon in the same room with Jim Brown (who was involved with the Kanye/Trump meeting as well and absolutely no one is giving him one ounce of shit over it) and have Lemon call Brown a token negro to his face. Just make sure to have closed circuit cameras in the room for pay per view possibilities.
Stop it
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6 hours ago, Parliament said:
No system is perfect, but a 8 game playoff would be a step back.
It's amazing how blindly people assert this ridiculousness.
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Kanye
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1 hour ago, Kyle said:This is what scares many - independent thought.
He’s expressing no such thing. You’re confused.
QuoteWhile I have not thought much of him or his music and think he's a megalomaniac loon
He is, and all this MAGA horseshit is a manifestation of that lunacy.
QuoteI admire anyone willing to express publicly a diverse opinion and face the fascist wrath of his peers.
Oh grow the fuck up and spare the sanctimonious nonsense. There is nothing fascist about calling a spade a spade. Freedom of expression cuts both ways. You have the right to say what you want, and we have the right to call you a fucking idiot for saying such things. No one is calling for his incarceration when he says the stupid shit that he says. All we say is that it’s stupid shit. To call that “fascism” is absolutely dishonest and absolutely wrong.
QuoteFree speech and independent thought no matter how inherently correct or incorrect terrifies many.
It evidently terrifies you because you label people as fascist for calling this moron out for what he is. He’s an imbecilic celebrity who says things like:
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1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:
I know you did not forget that occurred so why say this ridiculous falsehood?
Because some people would rather climb up a tree and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth.
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1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:
Expanding to 8 means you expand to 16. 16 implies 64. And on and on. Mike Leach already described this absurdity.
You know better than that.
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1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:
They playoffs are perfect the way they are, and changing them by adding more teams would harm the sport irreparably by lessening the importance of the regular season. And if you disagree with me, then you, sir, are worse than Hitler.
The beauty of college football is unique among sports, as is our system for determining a champion. And that’s not an accident. Unlike professional athletes, they are really young adults who play for fun and have another full-time job. There are real differences between one school and another. Aggies really are different from Sooners who are different from Longhorns. People’s values, ethics, cultures, and even intelligence vary by school. And because of this disorganized organization, we had multiple claims to championships, then the Bowl Alliance, then the BCS, now the playoffs. And they work.
As a result of a wonderful historical accident, college football developed a bowl system rather than a tournament. This means we had the single most important regular season of any sport. Because you went to the mythical national championship based on rankings, all kinds of ridiculous and subjective elements came into play. And the drama was, and is, incredible. But there was a problem.
With multiple ranking systems came multiple champions. And this problem needed a solution. First the Alliance, then the shitty BCS, now a four game playoff system. And indeed, the only reason for the system is to identify a true champion. And it’s fantastic. But some want to ruin it.
Contrast this with the NFL. The Super Bowl has been won by teams with a regular season record of 9-7, 10-6, or 11-5. Those teams clearly demonstrated they were not the best teams. What you had, in effect, was two separate tournaments. You had a regular season winner, with players resting for the playoffs, and a winner of the end of season tournament. No true champion.
The 2006 St. Louis Cardinals were 83-78 in the regular season. Not even close to best. Pretty close to average, actually. What else were they? Well since you ask, they were the winners of the World Series. Were they the best team? Uh, no. That system doesn’t work.
In 2007 the Patriots went undefeated. Were they Super Bowl champs? No. But they were undeniably one of the greatest teams of all time forever and ever amen.
So this Sacred Cow, the idea that playoffs identify the “Best Team”, I’m sorry but that’s wrong. It feels good to settle it on the field, but no, you aren’t the best if you win a sudden death playoff, it’s too random. The regular season is a better gauge of the quality of your team.
So if the purpose of college football playoffs is to determine the champion, does the fifth ranked team have any claim to be the best? No chance. Never. Won’t happen. There simply are no other teams with a valid claim to a title. Fifth best has no claim.
Expanding to eight teams simply invalidates the idea that the winner is the best team, aka true champion. It just means we had two tournaments, the regular season, and another tournament after the regular season. You can drop two games, still get in. Who cares. I mean, let’s just do like NCAA basketball where nobody even watches the regular season. Expanding means the regular season doesn’t matter.
Don’t get me started on people who think “conference champions” matter. They do, but they’re also arbitrary. You can have two great teams from the same conference, a great team with no conference, or no teams from a conference. The conferences are college football’s version of OPEC, trying to monopolize the money.
College football has the single best regular season and has stumbled ass backwards into the best way to determine its champion. Let’s not fuck it up by delegitimizing the regular season.
Emotionally-driven horseshit. Completely self-serving, and there is no truth in it.
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1 hour ago, Disco Missile said:
The BCS.
That's not a reason, that's rhetoric.
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56 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:
An 8-team playoff would water it down too much
That claim has already been debunked. It's emotionally-driven horseshit, and there is no truth in it.
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24 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:
Anyone who wants autobids for conference champs needs to get the thought out of their heads.
Well given that you haven't given any of us a reason to trust that, we have no reason to trust that.
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1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:
That doesn't make their decision making regarding TCU/Baylor or the CCG any less idiotic, just that it's a bit of a moot point..
Not really. How can you expect the CFP to take the Big 12 seriously when the Big 12 doesn't even take itself seriously?
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48 minutes ago, Bert Orange said:
Guaranteeing playoff spots with conference championships makes non-conference games meaningless. And that’s not very fun to think about.
There’s an easy remedy for that if non-con really means that much to you.
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40 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:
Nope.
??? Where in the world are you getting this from?
https://minesathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=football
Where's the FCS game?
I didn't say that you had to play one, I said if you played one you had the option of going up to 11 (at least that was the rule back when I was there as we had an 11-game season due to us playing Sam Houston State early in the year). If it's gone up to 11 regardless, that's news to me.
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4 minutes ago, satyanash said:
It's part of devaluing the regular season.
That's in your own head, and it has jack shit to do with reality.
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Just now, WBT said:
So what is your position on the assertion that an expanded playoff would devalue the college football regular season?
You know better than that. That's apples and oranges. The two are not related, nor can they be. You're talking about one sport where a team plays roughly 30 games in the regular season, up to a few conference tournament games, and has to play 6-7 national tournament games to reach the mountain top and another sport where a team plays 12 games in the regular season and would have to play 3 playoff games to reach the mountain top.
And that's to say nothing about the fact that you're comparing football to basketball in the United States.
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1 minute ago, Fico said:
At least you're consistent in your suckage suck across the boards.
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Just now, Gene Parmesan said:
No one even pays attention to college basketball until the 68 teams are in place. There is no bitching about being #69 because nobody has a clue what to bitch about.
In fact I'd wager that most people who watch the tournament rarely, if ever, watch those play-in games and a sizable chunk of even those miss the first round before they start paying any meaningful sort of attention to it.
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That's what I mean when I say CFB shouldn't be forced into becoming the NFL.
And you're still as wrong to assert that now as you were when you did it the first time. Invoking the NFL on a proposal for a playoff that would include 6% of the league is an abject strawman.
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5 minutes ago, satyanash said:
CFB is not the NFL, so please stop trying to turn it into the NFL.
The NFL isn't the only football league with a postseason tournament, nor is it the first. That's a weaker-than-shit strawman argument that exists merely to massage the ego of the person making it, and essentially nothing else.
And I just have to add, for the one millionth time, that even if the FBS playoff was fucking 16 teams large, as a percentage of their entire league, that would make it the most exclusive playoff in the sport of football at any level:
In high school, roughly 40-50% of any given league gets in
In the NFL, it's 37.5%
DIII with its 32-team playoff means 12.8%
DII with its 28-team playoff means 16.8%
FCS with its 24-team playoff means 19.2%
FBS with a hypothetical 16-team playoff would mean 12.3%
With a hypothetical 8-team playoff? 6.2%So by using a playoff that incorporates 6.2% participation of its whole league, some of you dumbasses think that's too many and you think 3.1% is the absolute max that any human brain could possibly tolerate. That only makes sense in the Fairy World of Make Believe and Pretend.
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11 minutes ago, JBJ said:
My bad. They play an 11 game season, I thought it was 10. Maybe it's D-II that plays 10.
DII does still play 10 with an option to go 11 if you play an FCS team (very rare that teams play FCS teams, let alone pursue that option, but it does exist a la the old Hawaii Rule from back in the day). And I should have said earlier that the 16-game season in HS is kinda unfair as a standard because I'm pretty sure that Texas is the only state that does that (Florida only plays 14, if I'm reading these schedules correctly, California doesn't even have real state champions, etc)
Anyways, NCAA DII has expanded its bracket size twice just since I enrolled at Midwestern State, which was only 15 years ago. They've gone from 16 to 28 in that period. If they up it to 32 (very likely as DIII already has that), they'll have guaranteed that no matter who plays in the title game, they'll have to play an extra game than they did just 15 years ago.
Now it's true that would only render it to 15, but again it would do so for everyone, and that's kinda the true underlying point in all this horseshit falderal about "wah wah wah they play too many games":
The NCAA doesn't care about the number of games these kids are playing, and the schools don't either because they go right along with it. There's been 0 resistance to the growth of any of these brackets. Seriously, no conference or Athletic Department has protested this, which is why the expansions are happening fairly rapidly. It's the same reason FCS is toying with the idea of 12-game regular seasons in the wake of a recent expansion of their playoff (they're stretching the season from both ends, basically).
And even if this is really an issue (which it clearly isn't and only serves to generate crocodile tears for the change averse), why is a 12-game slate for FBS teams such a sacred cow? And what evidence is there that the AD's at those universities care how many games their teams play? And why does anyone give a shit whether or not Texas has enough room on its schedule to squeeze in fucking Tulsa?
The 12-game schedule only came out in 2006. Then the CFP happens less than a decade later, which again stretched the schedule from both ends within just an 8-year period. Did anyone say anything serious about returning to the 11-game schedule when the CFP came out?
The point is that the players, coaches, AD's, universities, the conferences, and the NCAA doesn't give a shit about the number of games that are played, and it's beyond naive to assume that they do. The only way to logically presuppose that is if it makes sense to you to say the following sentence:
"Well the players are much tougher now than they were in 2005, so it's ok to play them more often now."
Does anyone say that? Do any of you say that? Well if you don't, then it makes no sense to protest an expanded playoff on the grounds of "too many games," especially when such a standard is so blatantly arbitrary. Again, this is just man-made mythology, there is no truth in any of it, and it's circular argumentation in order to route back to an assumed conclusion.
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10 minutes ago, JBJ said:
The most you play in either division is 15.
Look, I understand that you're trying really hard to make a point, but you need to stop. It's common knowledge that the FCS has an 11-game schedule (and they're considering making 12 a permanent number and not temporary, i.e. 2019 will allow them to do that), and it's also common knowledge that they have a 5-round playoff. You can't get through 24 teams without 5 rounds.
FBS is indeed 14-15: 12 reg, CCG (if applicable), 2 CFP's. I get that.
FCS works like this. It's a 24-team playoff (10 auto-qualifiers and 14 at-larges):
1st round: 24 teams remain
2nd round: 16 teams remain
3rd round: 8 teams remain
4th round: 4 teams remain
5th round: 2 teams remainIf you play in the 1st round and advance to the title game, you by definition play 16 games. That's basic arithmetic.
Kanye
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“But still” my ass. I was responding to someone who was quoting me. This has nothing to do with any twitter users named snoopdogg. That’s some dishonest shit right there.