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You think you’re making good points

They’ve been trained to believe that politics is a team sport. What else do you think motivates them to vote against their interests? Chomsky had it straight many decades ago, and sadly, we haven’t done much as a whole to prove him wrong: ”When I'm driving, I sometimes turn on the radio and I find very often that what I'm listening to is a discussion of sports. These are telephone conversations. People call in and have long and intricate discussions, and it's plain that quite a high degree of thought and analysis is going into that. People know a tremendous amount. They know all sorts of complicated details and enter into far-reaching discussion about whether the coach made the right decision yesterday and so on. These are ordinary people, not professionals, who are applying their intelligence and analytic skills in these areas and accumulating quite a lot of knowledge and, for all I know, understanding. On the other hand, when I hear people talk about, say, international affairs or domestic problems, it's at a level of superficiality that's beyond belief.” And it’s certainly turning out its ugly head again today. We’ve got motherfuckers coming here to talk shit…but when the red flags about the economy were coming out in 2019 and when they horribly botched the response to one of the worst pandemics we’ve ever seen? Fucking crickets. They can’t defend his policies (to the extent they even know what they are, which is doubtful), but they love to talk shit about “cuck lib tears.” And they think “libruls” are the problem. No, motherfucker. The problem is dickheads like that who refuse to learn anything. If they have one talent in this world, it’s the complete inability to understand simple things and when called out for it, act all butthurt and indignant. One of the big problems the Democrats had last night was low turnout. Sadly, the wrong people turned out. But that’s how it always is. When Trump said that he could shoot people on Madison Avenue and his numbers wouldn’t go down, he wasn’t joking and he wasn’t wrong either. There’s a reliable contingent of people who will vote for a fucking convicted felon as long as they have the magic R next to their name on the screen. They have no moral compass, and they think the biggest problem is people like me saying that they have no moral compass. Them not having a moral compass is their issue, not mine. It’s like I tell my MAGAt cousin every time he spews out one of his baseless, chickenshit conspiracy theories without the slightest shred of evidence to support it: if you don’t give me a reason to believe you, I have no reason to believe you, and not having a reason to believe you is literally the best reason not to believe you.

“Cuz we can’t fuckin listen, and we can’t pay attention to history, and we only half-assed fuckin pay attention and listen” -Mike Leach

I swear, right now this feels like the South Park episode where Steve Jobs keeps fucking with those people who don’t read the User Terms

There’s also going to be the tariffs that Trump’s followers honestly believe are paid for by the “offending” country. That shit is going to reignite inflation, and it’s just further proof that Americans are by and large financially illiterate. Blame Biden for gas prices, blame Biden for inflation, yada yada. Meanwhile, we literally went through this experiment already in 2019 when it really was the Trump economy by that point. He couldn’t take credit for Obama’s successes anymore, and it was a drastic failure. The yield curve inverted, and gold/silver going up while copper went down, and all that was before any of you motherfuckers knew what coronavirus even was, and yet we’ve got sniveling little dickheads telling us that the bigger problem is people like me pointing that out.

And hardly anyone is calling their bluff. It’s embarrassing

Come to think of it, you don’t do any of the shit he and/or his surrogates have been doing unless you’re desperate

It does not. It’s been found as a matter of formal declaration that he committed sexual assault against her, but that’s nowhere near the same as a criminal conviction. Essentially all it really does, from a legal perspective (lawdogs feel free to chime in if I’m wrong here) is that it protects anyone who calls him a rapist from any sort of liability as far as a defamation claim. In other words if he sues you because you called him a rapist, your defense is “truth is an absolute defense; you’ve been formally declared as such.”

Again, been sucking for over a year…and just like pre-October 7th for the Palestinians, not all that great either.

And yet they’ll still have their US-based cheering section, as evidenced by the sheer depravity, buffoonery, and not least of all, historical incompetence by our usual suspects in this ghastly thread. But they’ll keep marching in lockstep, mindlessly droning the same popular refrains like the intellectual beggars they’ve always been, regardless of what you tell them…no differently than MAGA, actually.

He would have said that if Vance had pulled his pants down, ran around in a circle, and said “look at me, look at me!” Scott Jennings is a stupid person’s idea of a smart person

“I won, but just in case I didn’t…”

Walz will probably demolish Vance…then he’ll be the one to drive him to the hospital.

And just to add to your edit, even the police in those towns are saying it’s bullshit. But see, that’s the appeal of MAGA: make believe. It’s literally a belief in pure fucking magic by a combination of 1. people who couldn’t think their way out of a paper bag, 2. people whom if you threw their testicles into a drinking straw it’d look like two kernels of corn rolling around in a storm drain, and 3. people who couldn’t whip cream with an outboard motor. Just the absolute worst failures at fucking life look at this shit and see a baby-Jesus-on-toast miracle. They’re beyond reaching and it’s so pathetic.

It was. This past game was a 45/50

You can sub out “genocide” and use “aggression” as it pertains to Iraq and it’s just as awful, in addition to being more accurate. I mean I would never want to associate myself with a person whose moral values are such that they would look at Iraq and say “well at least it was only aggression and not genocide. I can live with that.” But you are correct. Quibbling over what defines “genocide” entirely misses the point. It’s a fucking dodge.

The thing that you need to consider is the 90%+ approval of the IDF’s actions. Like he says at the end, they’re aware. And yet, 90+% of the population does not say that the IDF has gone too far. Well over 90% of their population either outright approved of what the IDF has been doing, or even more shockingly, they don’t think the IDF is being harsh enough. That’s a problem. It’s one of the leading reasons that saying “if Bibi and/or his policies were seen as so horrible in the country, why has there been no effective opposition?” is a valid argument. We also need to remember something else: when Labour was that equal counterweight to Likud, their policies in the Occupied Territories were not all that different from Likud. In fact in a lot of ways, they were worse. The only time Israel ever suspended the use of torture as being a legal tactic for the IDF used was by Begin (only for two years, but a suspension nonetheless). Labour never had a P.M. that suspended torture. Prior to his death, Yitzhak Rabin used to brag that he’d demolished more houses than any Likud leader. And speaking of Rabin, his record of settlement expansion in the West Bank was worse than that of Shamir. Housing permits and constructions went up faster during Barak’s tenure than under Bibi’s first regime in the 90’s. Of course Netanyahu is now clear in the lead on most of the aforementioned issues because he’s the longest serving prime minister in Israel’s history…but that also bolsters what Finkelstein says about him being a reflection of the society: he’s the longest serving P.M. in history. So it’s not like Bibi is facing a formidable counter from the Knesset or from the population in general. Israel’s record in the OT on human rights has been atrocious in generals. We are not living in a reality where any of us can paint a rosie red picture of “well the United States and the more-left parties in Israel could achieve a settlement, but it’s just those damn Likudniks with their right wing Barbarism.” To me, that’s every bit as reality-optional as this notion of blaming everything on the Palestinians.

No, but it is wrong to think he’s the only piece of shit in the Israeli government…or Israel in general.

That dude beat me to it. If anyone could be considered exhibit A for an argument in favor of post birth abortion, it would have to be Marjorie Taylor Greene..

Oh the election will have precious little effect on the bu-fucking-foonery that’s gone on in this particular thread. Other threads? Yes. Even other boards? Maybe. But this one? No. No, the bullshit will continue as long as this needless cycle of violence persists. We’re gonna keep reading the same bullshit excuses and the same bullshit make believe stories.

Again, it’s been like that for almost a year. The amount of bullshit, not to mention sheer moral depravity, that’s been slung around here since October 7th has been absolutely, unbelievably breathtaking.