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Exactly. In the past 92 years, Texas and OU faced off something like 66 times as non-conference foes, 15 times as divisional foes within the same conference, and 10 times as just general conference foes. Those distinctions made no impact whatsoever on the reality that it'd be played in the Cotton Bowl every year without exception, there was never any substantive dialogue between the schools about moving it either to home-and-home or a different neutral field (a special "fuck you" to the token few left that want to move it to Arlington), and the only time this ever comes up in the first place is when it fits into the cookie cutter definition of what the fuck it actually is: a stupid person's idea of a smart thing to say. "Oh I bet they change it for the sake of changing it because things and words! Look at me I have a Twitter account!"

That whole topic is a paradigmatic example of a "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEE!!! I SAID WOOOOOOOORRRRRDS!!!!" discussion.

They have the same 3 dimples as in the skull of Old Ben.

First or second time?

Well yeah I mean especially since it didn’t involve shooting an unconscious black man twice in the head with his pregnant wife in the next room.

Exhibit 7538495745879 that swimmers are easily the dumbest, as a group, among Olympic athletes. This fucking kid seriously believes he's a fucking hero for this.

Psaki needs to incrementally cut him off quicker on those fallacious questions he asks so that at some point he looks and sounds like this:

That wasn’t a guy, that was a wooden figure that the Mormons had breathed into him the breath of life via a golem spell.

Since when has anyone ever accused Utah of having sensible laws?

They're the same thing. Trump is responsible in the same way a respondent is deemed responsible in a lawsuit via jury verdict, which is how I look at things like this. It's not an all or nothing proposition. It's not black and white. Most of the time, what happens in a lawsuit where a plaintiff is claiming some sort of injury is that the jury has to consider who bears the most blame for it. It's not like the respondent gets off scot-free if the jury indicates some sort of contribution by the plaintiff. So, in this case, was Ashli Babbitt responsible for her actions? Absolutely. But those actions would never have been taken had Trump simply followed in the grand tradition of "take the loss, pussy" that the aforementioned 10 presidents took before him. He absolutely is responsible for her death, and you are dead wrong to assert the opposite. Babbitt would never have gone there, nor would those thousands of morons had Trump simply said on the Saturday where Biden was declared the winner "I just called Joe Biden to congratulate him on his victory."

They who say "Trump isn't responsible for her death"

I cannot believe that a single person could struggle with this. Ten men before Trump lost re-election bids, and not once was there a full on riot/insurrection attempt by partisans of the losing side during the lame duck period. Why? Probably had something to do with the fact that neither John Adams, nor his son, nor Van Buren, Cleveland, Harrison, Taft, Hoover, Ford, Carter, nor Bush called the results "fake news." They didn't allege that the votes were rigged in favor of the opponent, they didn't refuse to concede defeat, and they didn't invite thousands of protesters to the front of the White House for purposes of marching on the capitol during the reading of the fucking electoral results. That formula of not doing any of those things seemed to work in terms of peaceful transition, but when you're dealing with someone that has a massive inferiority complex and an incurable case of narcissistic personality disorder, awful things can happen...especially if your electoral base happens to constitute hyper-religious nuts, paranoid conspiracy theorists, white supremacists, and the dumbest among the electorate.

And it’s not just that they’re traitors, their cause for said treason is completely illusory. When the South seceded, we could at least understand why they did it. It was completely monstrous, morally reprehensible, yada yada yada, but at least it was something real. Slavery was a real thing and they had justifiable fears that it, as a legally covered institution, was coming to an end if they remained in the US. This shit? It was never real. None of it. This shit was about a stolen election that was never stolen, a conspiracy between parties that never conspired with each other, a crime family that committed no crime…and somehow Hugo fucking Chavez was dragged into this. It was all a matter of make believe and pretend. And they had been told it…for two fucking months they had been told it. But they ignored the actual evidence and rotted their feeble brains with Fox News, OAN, Newsmax, Trump’s embarrassing, language mangling pressers, et al and convinced themselves to believe that the election was rigged. Lawsuit after lawsuit was tossed on grounds of ridiculousness, and they still believed it. Why? Because to people like Ashli Babbitt, hanging onto the belief is more important than accepting the reality. There’s nothing admirable about that, which means there’s nothing admirable about her even being there. As to her getting killed? Yeah I know that’s not what the virgin ears here want to hear, but play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

No doubt. Alito is a fucking nut. He's Kavanaugh on a 24/7 hangover without taking his crazy pills.

Straw man is just another phrase he saw someone else use.

He ignores it in the same way he ignores the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Uh how can you tell?

There are those who value belief over acceptance.

In the same way a paper cut and a malignant tumor are bad.

It's a different topic, but the problem is nonetheless unavoidably attached to the answer to his question.

They’re just adhering to the post-modernist tradition and value of “everything is an opinion, nothing is moral or immoral, all opinions are equally valid, feelings and emotions, blah blah blah.”

[Jeff]Seems like a pattern there, Ron[/Foxworthy]

By and large it depends on where you were educated and when, and the same is true of other historic moments of the country. So take the Texas Revolution. Again, I got the same bullshit story most of you were fed. That Dave Crockett, Jim Bowie, William Travis, et al were a bunch of noble heroes trying to free these peaceful white settlers from the tyrannical grip of the evil Santa Ana. But if you grew up in San Antonio and the Valley, you get a much different story as I was recently told by my godfather's two children (about my age).