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Posts posted by hpslugga
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On 12/14/2020 at 11:25 AM, Neonmoon said:
I know about the Dunning-Kruger Effect, in which people wrongly overestimate their intellect, but is there a phenomenon that explains when a person is intellectually incapable of understanding the information, but won't accept the answers given by someone who does understand the information?
That's narcissism mixed with tribalism. You can't correct a narcissist on a previously held belief, because that would mean the person was wrong, and they're "never wrong." And in this particular case, the narcissism is rooted in tribalism. Most Americans don't view politics in the classical sense, which is when one acts on their best understanding of what's right vs. what's wrong. Americans, by and large, view politics as a team sport and that it's all about winning and losing. And it's hard to break that cycle because the greatest beneficiaries of that are the two big political parties. They've been able to accumulate large swaths of voters who they absolutely can count on to vote for their candidates no matter what. I mean for fuck's sake, Trump actually had a better turnout than he did in 2016, even though he proved himself to be the absolute worst president in US history.
On 12/14/2020 at 11:25 AM, Neonmoon said:For example, a scientist has studied a subject for twenty years, has multiple degrees in the subject, but John Q. Idiot comes along, and says XYZ doesn't make sense because of something he read online.
Well that's Dunning-Kruger. There, a person with no professional background on the topic is asserting he knows more than a much more qualified professional. I would also suggest such a person is a fool. A fool is defined as a person who too readily accepts dubious claims from questionable sources based on insufficient information.
On 12/14/2020 at 11:25 AM, Neonmoon said:The scientist explains to the John Q. Idiot that the article he read doesn't take into account a hundred other variables and studies, and thus the conclusions are incorrect. John Q. Idiot then says yeah but what about this, and the process repeats itself.
Again, back to narcissism. Complete inability to recognize when someone is wrong, which inevitably yields a person unable to learn anything. But that is an important example you illustrate because what it also shows is a person using apologetics, which is when someone perpetually lies in defense of something that's indefensible. Some will also tell you that this is confirmation bias, but that's really just a means to an end. The big question in those instances isn't THAT it's confirmation bias, it's why the person is using it.
On 12/14/2020 at 11:25 AM, Neonmoon said:The scientist waste time trying to convince the idiot of truths they will not accept because they're too ignorant to understand them.
This is pretty much where society sits right now
Yes it is, and that Antrim County audit nonsense is a perfect example of it. Seriously read what actually did happen with that whole thing, then observe the pro-Sidney Powell commentary on it and you will notice that it's no exaggeration to say that she and her idiot followers are absolutely wrong about absolutely everything that they said. But the point is that they just run with it...then someone like you might try to explain it to them...then they still believe, maybe even more fervently than they did before you spoke, in the lie.
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3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:
Now, the election is fake.
This is just another textbook example of what right wingers have been guilty for many generations: they read into the text of certain documents things that they do not say, and they ignore what they do say. So they read in between the lines, but they don’t read the lines. That’s quite a talent, especially considering the semi-literacy of that demographic.
Here? That stupid “audit” that they think is the ultimate “gotcha” when it’s nothing even remotely close to anything of the sort. Such is life in the fairy world of make believe and pretend. Of course Trump doesn’t actually believe in it, and that’s part of the grift.
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13 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:
Gonna be fun to watch his meltdown tomorrow after the electoral college votes.
He's just gonna call special "dinner at the White House" meetings with R Reps and Sens to seek to invalidate the EC vote on January 6th.
He's never going to literally acknowledge that this happened. It is the ultimate parallel to the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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2 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:
Oh god, no shit!
What I wouldn’t give to have California sue Alabama for any reason they can find and expose the fuck out out of John Merrill and Steve Marshall. Throw in Mo Fucking Brooks, too.If California sued every red state, stating that their injury is that their proximity to them prevents their economy from thriving more than it has, for $5 trillion, that would have more merit attached to it than this latest round of horseshit from Ken Paxton.
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1 hour ago, workswithseed said:
I didn't know that they did research. News to me.
Damn, maybe one day I'll be like you.
This has kinda been baffling. Trump gets in cause of Russian collision. Mitch Mcconnell doesn't pass the bill to secure our election. Trump loses this year and it's legit. Am I wrong? He's also using the courts to make his case, it's not illegal to do such things.
It’s dilatory.
They’ve not once presented a credible case that would persuade any judge to order a fucking overturn of an election.
I get that you do not understand simple things, but do you ever wonder why his lawyers always stop short of alleging fraud in court? It’s because they’ll be severely disciplined if they do so with no evidence, which is exactly the case: they have no evidence to support their baseless claims.
So when you tell us that Trump is within his right to do that, that’s about as useful as me telling you that I’m within my right to call your great grandmother a whore. It’s a fucking useless standard and it completely avoids the issue. Is he within his right to take these matters to court? Sure. Does that mean that doing so in and of itself proves the existence of widespread fraud? Fuck off with that rabbit-assed nonsense.
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21 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:
Your first point is off by whatever percentage of these folks were here prior to 1986.. And our government’s culpability for violating international law covering treatment of asylum seekers needs to be part of the discussion.
I do agree with your second point.
And it’s not just the treatment of the asylum seekers, it’s the involvement that invariably led to the creation of same.
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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:
What a bunch of gutless, spineless, half-witted, handwringing, lily-livered, mouthbreathers who all squat to pee the posters on this thread are. Good lord. A fat fuck OSU troll posts a meme taunting us and you all immediately throw down your keyboards and waddle off to sob in dark corners? Holy fuck. Hallelujah. Merry Christmas.
Ok is it just me, or did anyone else read this in the voice of the bastard child of Yosemite Sam and Carrie Fisher?
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1 hour ago, TXSG8R said:
Nah, they are full on right wing Q nuts. Lin floated a Powell/Flynn 2024 line at one point yesterday and Powell gave an "aw, shucks, little old me?" look while laughing. Powell is thoroughly enjoying the spotlight and with Q she has a pretty captive audience. Trump cut them away because of optics and they are just forging ahead trying to get theirs, they don't really give a fuck about any long term plans of the party. The Rs fed this monster and now they get to deal with it growing beyond their control.
That’s an interesting combination: the 21st century’s Oliver North and the female Jim Adler.
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1 hour ago, TXSG8R said:
Nah, they are full on right wing Q nuts. Lin floated a Powell/Flynn 2024 line at one point yesterday and Powell gave an "aw, shucks, little old me?" look while laughing. Powell is thoroughly enjoying the spotlight and with Q she has a pretty captive audience. Trump cut them away because of optics and they are just forging ahead trying to get theirs, they don't really give a fuck about any long term plans of the party. The Rs fed this monster and now they get to deal with it growing beyond their control.
That’s an interesting combination: the 21st century’s Oliver North and the female Jim Adler.
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6 hours ago, Anastasis said:Ohhh. This is a tough one.
Dude just let it go. He knows how full of shit his posts are. If there was a more obvious troll job being committed on a UT-based message board, I’ve yet to see it...and actually would like to just for the theatre.
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8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:There are countless examples of our interventions creating blowback. I know that there are some status quo bozos that like to cuddle up under the delusion that our interventionist approaches in places like Iran and Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Central/South America has created the greatest period of peace and prosperity and democracy the world has ever seen. What I see is jingoism creating far more long lasting problems than it solves. But yes, let's talk more about Iran.
Well it’s like you said, they’re fucking bozos. They do believe those things. Why? Because they were told to by entities with skins in the game. It’s very perplexing because when it comes to these right wingers, they’re always
This is like that spot in Caddyshack where Judge Smails (the government) tells Danny (the population) to ignore his repeated very illegal improvements to his ball lie...except in this analogy, Danny literally believes the justification that Smails was interfered with.
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2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:Saudi Arabia is #1 by a long shot.
They’re tied. I shouldn’t have to tell you with whom.
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3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:
Social media would be forced to moderate the comments and content for fear of suit. It would basically eliminate the spread of misinformation and lies on every major internet platform. No more QAnon bullshit easily attainable by stupids, olds, and stupid olds. That seems like a benefit.
Would be a better idea if people like you could spend the time to properly educate those people. You take their bullshit away via government action and they’re just going to resent you even more than they already do. Their baseline is a distrust in the government, so let’s not feed that.
It’s kinda like the recent phenomena of right wingers being invited to speak at colleges only to have their invites rescinded when popular pressure forced it. It’s fucking stupid. Keep the invites, let them speak and inform them “you’re going to have to defend your views in a Q&A forum. This is not a monologue; this is a dialogue.”
I promise you, the Ann Coulters, Ben Shapiros and Milos of the world cannot hold their own in such forum. They whither and die like a bad fart in the wind when their incredibly ignorant views get put under a microscope and exposed as the massive intellectual frauds that they are. Now, you may not change Ann Coulter’s mind, but you’ll damn sure take the shine off her to the point where she’s less likely to infect people with her prepubescent nonsense.
The same is true with this social media garbage. Just expose it. In fact that’s even easier because you’re doing it on a device with the internet. Just keep posting the real facts of the issue and their audience shrinks to the point where it’s easy to just label the very few people remaining as cult members, quacks, nut bags, et al. Again, you won’t change everyone’s mind but if you’re good at persuasive engagement, you’ll at least get the good swimmers out of the pool and only the weaklings will be left to drown while no one gives a shit.
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7 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:
The worst part of this is that if Powell, Giuliani, etc. were to be punished in any meaningful way for their bullshit over the past month, the lunatics would just view that as some sort of evidence that THEY WERE ON TO SOMETHING AND THE DEEP STATE HAD TO QUIET THEM!!!
They’re gonna say that no matter what. It’s kinda like what Pete Buttigieg said about the socialism issue. He said that they can’t worry about those charges because frankly, whatever policy they choose, the republicans will call it socialism. Here, they’re going to allege “deep state conspiracy” against anything and anyone that isn’t actively facilitating the overturn of the election, and then they’ll pat themselves on the back like that BBQ Beer Freedom guy did.
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5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:
This is who the President of the United States was retweeting tonight.
Someone needs to teach that piece of shit what evidence actually is.
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18 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:
I mean they fucking certified today. What does he think he’s blocking?
I’m telling you, he’s fucking trolling and grifting at the same time. That’s the one talent that he has: believably lying.
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14 hours ago, Anastasis said:Reveal them for the frauds they are?
Nothing is quite as polite to the sensibilities as the status quo.
Ok, that’s like saying that a benefit to getting decapitated is that you lose 8-10 pounds of body weight.
Look, did the establishment suffer a massive exposure as a result of him? Yes. But come on. There are literally thousands of better ways to expose same without electing the absolute worst President in the republic’s history.
The idea that voting for him because he was an outsider (which in itself was a bullshit item) was and still is analogous to eschewing Tide in favor of oatmeal and Coca Cola for your laundry because “they’re outsiders!!!” It was fucking stupid before one thought of it, it was stupid in real time, it’s stupid now, and it will always be considered stupid by any serious person.
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6 minutes ago, HenryJames said:
$9.95
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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:
Did she give any evidence to her claims?
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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:
Probably not far off from what they really think.
It’s a symptom of a greater illness from which republicans have suffered for the last 40 years: belief in pure frickin magic
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Honestly Trump really doesn't believe that he has any prayer at the WH whatsoever. He's just using his surrogates to incite the base, whom he's currently lobbying like crazy to fund all of this legal mumbo jumbo. That's also why, IMHO, he's incredibly thin on talent as far as attorneys are concerned: find cheap lawyers, take in as much in donations as possible, then throw the lawyers under the bus.
I distinctly remember telling people in 2016 "just watch as he does a literal repeat of the USFL." This kind of shit is exactly what I was talking about.
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1 hour ago, HenryJames said:
Interesting that asshole couched it in terms of what Fox News imagines it is, "Trump's presidency saved," and not what it really is: abusing the court system with a fucking clown show to achieve an authoritarian coup. These people are a fucking insult to the species.
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The idea that the impurity of the dnc even remotely compares to that of the gop is just straight up make believe and pretend. And it’s a completely pointless exercise because it’s self-serving, has no purpose other than to stroke the very fragile minds that come up with this shit, and it doesn’t yield a tangible relief the way that actual masturbation does.
Are there a myriad of problems with the DNC as it relates to the responsiveness to the needs/wants of the population? Fuck yes. But that’s a fight that should be confined to the DNC representing the very farthest of the right wing and the progressives representing everyone to the left of that. The republicans are just deadweight.
Our 2 “party” system is basically the final match at Medeival Times...except there’s only one warrior knight and he’s facing a fucking clown, and we’re being asked by the King’s squires (media) to believe that this is the best match we can have instead of the other warrior knights that were quickly ejected from the show in deference to the fucking clown.
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The Stupidity of the Average American Voter
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We can’t depend on people on power to do anything that’s outside of what benefits them. This is something that we have to fix ourselves.