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Hurtlocker

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  1. Ha, if its averages, the Big 12 has every game televised, so you get tons of 500ks in the shit games that Oregon doesn't have because they go to the PacN which isn't metered. If they want to do that, look at a channel comparison, e.g. how did they do on ABC, Fox, ESPN, etc.
  2. The Story Behind USC and UCLA’s Shift to the Big 10 Fox was in the room, as a partner to the Big Ten, when media companies were pitching for the Big Ten's deal
  3. I like cake. Who doesn't like cake? Commies, that's who.
  4. That actually is ok. Though no one will casually find a football game on USA.
  5. Yeah I don't think we're seeing a seismic difference here. But if we looked through the numbers I'd wager WSU and OSU are the lowest rated properties of the combined Big 12/Pac12. If you plucked off the top six you'd think you'd consolidate some value in the same way adding two massive brands to the SEC does. Not the the same extent, but at least cutting out a bit more of the low end. Culling the herd if you will.
  6. AZ/Colorado want out Big 12 says bring Oregon/Washington Oregon/Washington say, "We Big Ten Bitches!" Big Ten Says "no you're not" Utah says, "We're totally Big Ten, right? Guys? Right?!" Oregon/Washington tell the Pac they want more money See #1
  7. Yeah, here's my guess. Pac 12 would like to stay together and just say fuck it. Oregon and Washington want more money, so they want everyone else to take a bath to pay them Arizona and Colorado say "fuck that" so they start dropping juice all over twitter to back up the plan
  8. Who the fuck is this guy?
  9. Are Pac-12 schools ASU, Arizona a package deal in college conference realignment? From the Arizona Republic just now
  10. That guy is a sports guy out of Flagstaff it seems, which is a new twist. Seems most of this noise is happening out of Arizona. If this occurred, Oregon and Colorado would apply within minutes. The big question left is what to do with ASU and the Phoenix DMA and Cal/Stanford with the SF/O/SJ DMA. OSU/WSU are in the MWC at this point. Or is none of it real and Arizona is the only one pissed and trying to sink the ship?
  11. The best adds for the Big 12 from an eyeball standpoint, and they'll need all the eyeballs they can get, would be ASU, Colorado, Washington, and Cal or Stanford. That would net them around 9m new households and swipe all of the Pac's major markets. At that point Oregon says hi and you let Arizona and Utah knife fight for the last spot. The Big 12 could never build a linear channel because they didn't have the households and they didn't have the glut of inventory you get after you reach 14 schools. Now they can and, while its not BTN/SECN numbers, its not nothing. And if NBC wants ND, maybe you can dangle a bigger carrot to Stanford for their home against the Irish. Only chance they have to join the B1G is if ND falls in their lap.
  12. John is definitely fighting the good fight on Twitter for the Pac 12
  13. There is still an exit fee, there just isn't a negotiation to buy rights back.
  14. No, they own all of the ACC's rights, which is why the ACC is proper fucked. There isn't a raise in there for them and they're pretty well bound together for a decade. In more positive news, no one is raiding them either so they can just keep on keeping on. The Pac 12 has the Pac12 Network and its a bomb. It could have been could, but they dumped money into buildings and not getting more households. Likely will have to torpedo that investment as lost in the next TV round. Their T1/2 is split between Fox and ESPN The Big 12 does have their T3 with ESPN now, through the end of this contract. This includes OU/Texas, who have their T3 separate from both the Big 12 and the SECN. T1/2, like the Pac, is shared between Fox/ESPN. The irony is the Pac12 may lose a linear channel and the Big 12 could pick one up. Especially if they go to 16.
  15. I don't think their end goal is to become the only two conferences, just the only two power ones. Even if the ACC/Big12/Pac live to fight another day, the money and power is now consolidated on two fronts.
  16. I watched Oregon State curb stomp the Irish in that stadium! They also gave me all their booze when they left early. For those who know the Cubs, I may also have run into Ronnie WooWoo after at a daquiri bar sometime after Mark Grace fixed his teeth. Either all of those comments are true or none are, and, honestly, I'm not sure which is which.
  17. 15 seconds of mostly ok is better than 14 seconds of mostly ok
  18. Guessing you mean how is the Big 12 going up. Well, the short story is they're finally taking all of their contracts to bid at the same time in 2025 and their T1 deal that brings in the most per game was massively undervalued due to how old it is. And while TX/OU did drop a sizable chunk of their value, they were expected to be in the $75-85m range. Now they'll be in the $50-60m. They're just starting at a higher level than the Pac overall.
  19. Goddamn prudes.
  20. My point was more that Clemson doesn't add anything more to the SEC, except someone else to take recruits. What do they get for throwing them a bone? Seems unnecessary
  21. But...why? Does Clemson even sniff those titles if they're playing in the SEC instead of the ACC?
  22. Per above, because they don't want to spend $1B and they don't want to tie up all of their inventory because they have bad TV shows that still out draw good CFB games. They also value the exposure they bring to a partner. So if you're worth $10m a game, CBS want to pay you $7m a game and provide $3m in ad space promotions during the week. The Big Ten and SEC don't need promotion any more like they may have 20 years ago. But the Big 12 does. ND values it too. So NBC or CBS pay ND $13-15m per game for 6 games and they pay the Big 12 $7-8m per game for 15. The networks get respectable book end numbers and the Big 12 gets to build brands for the next decade in what amounts to $30-45m in free brand marketing. The Big 12 isn't going to get the numbers the B1G/SEC have, so they need to build up. Giving up cash for opportunity and exposure is how you do that.
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