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Hurtlocker

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  1. I just listened to him today, did it happen mid show?!
  2. Yeah, great school With you there. 20k average attendance is a major issue.
  3. Yeah I would imagine the pitch would be "Be like Cinci/UCF - Invest, win and we'll talk." There isn't anyone where you want them (e.g. east of the Mississippi) who are ready to go. You almost need to do the B1G/Rutgers thing and build them up over a decade. Memphis makes the most geographic sense, probably should have snagged, them and Louisville when grabbing West Virginia. USF is starting to build an on-campus stadium, which the B12 seems to be pushing as a must have (see Memphis), which could put them in the running too. I still don't see Boise, which likely means it is a done deal. The only redeeming quality they really have is football success. And with that success they average 36k in attendance. It still wouldn't surprise me to see the B12/P12 join forces or seeing a media pooling concept. When Amazon can use pocket change to pay a billion a year for the Thursday night NFL game, why buy the rights to one conference, when you can buy the rights to four and market the ever living fuck out of college football for 3b?
  4. Late to the reply, but was listening to SXM's college station after the ACC Commish's comments, and they talked for like 20 minutes that the entire reason the ACC said they're out of expanding the playoffs before the contract ends, is because they wanted to force concessions within this transformation framework before they handed any more money away (from the P5). It wouldn't shock me if you saw 80 break away fully, taking all the championships, and institute some sort of revenue sharing to boost competitive equity (tied to fielding sports, athlete support, etc) and avoid anti-trust.
  5. This, what matters is what turns on tvs regionally. Birmingham is one of the largest CFB markets in the US, getting like half the households to turn into games. All the other top markets by percent of homes turned in are: Birmingham New Orleans Richmond Louisville Greenville SC/Asheville NC Greensboro NC Knoxville TN Charlotte Memphis Columbus OH Big markets have a lot more total people, but the share of the market is also far more fragmented.
  6. I think it was CBS who did it for their article, and I agree. Why the hell do you add Cinci to give a bridge to WVU and NOT have them with WVU?
  7. In this thread from the ACC commish today... Was this nugget (#7):
  8. Money isn't the issue. Here are the past 5 years records, NYC/Playoff bowls played (E.g. big marketing bowls played, not counting losing a championship) and championships won for a random assortment of teams who had more than $90m in revenue for football alone: All of these schools make an egregious amount of money and all end the year with less than Texas. One item of note is most seem to spend more of their money made, which could imply that spending money, not making it, matters more. And, as a comparison, here are schools that make far less, but have had better results: Clemson made roughly $80M less in football revenue than Texas, but spent around 40% more on football. So, this has nothing to do with making more money and more to do with spending more money. Over $40m gives you a shot, over $50m puts you in the upper tier. The move to the SEC had nothing to do with money and everything to do with recruiting. The expansion of CFB isn't about money, though more will be made, it is about who will dominate the PR/Marketing/Exposure aspect of the post season in order to sustain success.
  9. I don't understand why anyone gives a fuck about field storming. Was this shit sacrosanct or something? What are we going to whine about next, new uniform combinations? Female reporters? Fake grass? The forward pass? Grab a fuckin drink and change the channel if your panties bind up.
  10. I cannot find the article now, but I thought I read somewhere that it was too expensive for them to move at the moment. I'm not sure if that was due to an agreement with the CUSA or something else. But, I heards things! (somewhere, maybe, could have been drunk)
  11. So, seems they've come full circle. Time to ride out 50 years on the flip side of success to get back
  12. You win for fastest call to answer in the history of message boards. That was nuts.
  13. I didn't see it, may need @Al_4_ISU to fill in the gaps. But on the twitters I caught something about a 21 point swing near the end of the game on some suspect calls due to ESPN+'s replay deficiencies.
  14. Well, thankfully, the Gophers are over ranked now at #20, so Ohio State has at least one ranked win on the schedule to date.
  15. Fox is finally promoting games, which they did shitily before, including pumping their preshow. Also, the noon slot always draws really well. Last year, averaging everything, the Noon/afternoon/prime games on the major channels all kind of drew similar numbers. Also, also, Oregon beat OSU, which captures more eyeballs than blow outs or same-ol-same-ol.
  16. In other news: Amazon likely front-runner for multiyear NFL Sunday Ticket deal, sources say ESPN is very interested in this content, but is at the point of over extending themselves on rights deals and this would equate to around 25% of ESPN's total revenue, which is already 40% of Disney's media networks revenue. Amazon, on the other hand, makes around 2.5x ESPN's revenue off prime subscriptions alone (and they're heavily in bed with the NFL with AWS Next Gen Stats and buying TNF for a bill/year) and is up to 150m subscribers in the US (twice ESPN's). This would only represent 10% of their total prime revenue, which only makes up 6% of Amazon's total revenue. Additionally, this deal would be larger than every CFB network deal, combined, and basically accomplished with Amazon's pocket change. So, ESPN is starting to feel a threat they can't compete with in the long run. Odds are they're going to try and lock up as much as they can in the next year to hold it at bay. This would include buying the Texas/OU rights (perhaps by shoring up the Big 12) and placating the "Alliance" with a post season plan they continue to control, that doesn't have to go to market.
  17. I don't think he meant brands, I think he meant performance.
  18. Yeah I think this is where it will end up. If the Big 12 has Pac/ACC money, a seat at the table and, perhaps, a scheduling agreement with the SEC to help pay for it, then there will likely be a move without much financial fanfare. The Big 12 does have leverage, until 2025, then they have none. So gaining a long term deal now that provides security and relevancy in the new landscape, while ESPN wants Texas/OU for its new SEC Tier 1 deal around 2023, is the right play.
  19. Possibly, but I'm guessing the buyout is funding this expansion. It ads about $6-7m per year for 12 schools prior to the next contract, which is nearly identical to what you lose spreading the pie 12 ways instead of 10.
  20. There are a few different ways they're sold - very basically: 1) Long term deals - these are directly with the channels and are multi-year "sponsorship" deals. Think Home Depot or Chic-fil-a. These are negotiated with the network and account for about 50-60% of the ad inventory on ESPN. 2) Yearly "scatter" deals - they'll sell them yearly like season tickets. You can't just buy the top games, you also need to spread your ads out over various other events, outside of CFB 3) local ads - if you notice when you watch the game, there are blocks where car dealerships and local chains show up. These are sold by the local/regional carrier, like Comcast or an over the air station. (side note, this is also how carriage is determined on how much Comcast pays to carry ESPN, its considered sharing the local revenue) Most of these ads are calculated on expected reach and frequency of various demographics and are sold in flights of around 13 weeks, outside longer term deals. All of this money goes to the distributers, e.g. Disney, Fox, Comcast, etc., who then pays the conferences for their inventory. The catch here is everyone wants as much guaranteed money as possible, so the conferences take long term deals at set amounts, forgoing the wins and losses of big games or shit games. Those are all sort of blended into their agreement. And, from a carrier side, they sell as much long term as they can. I don't think you could just buy one spot on a big game if you wanted to. You'd be buying something like 100M views at $X CPM, and it would be spread out over several weeks.
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