Hurtlocker

This is undoubtedly true. The only reason the Pac is the one to lose is it made its bad decisions last. The B12 was riddled with terrible organizational decisions that cost it billions over the years and could have been the aggressor in realignment, but wasn't until it had to be. Those four just had the first exit opportunities.

Right, auction is the wrong word, but they do prioritize the games. The only difference is they get the top three they want.

I'm not sure if I'm happier that you posted this, since I'd been wanting to read it since it came out, or that you posted it in massive letters so I could read without feeling old. Either way, thanks for both

If you don't care then why are you arguing with me about facts? In that table, that's where they slotted last year. That's it, that's the message.

That's not really how it works. First off, Texas and OU won't have the same windows as they had in the B12. They were the easy choices for all T1 content. Now they'll fall into the SEC's content window, not the Big 12s. So their game will need to be in the top of the SEC's offerings that week. And, like Georgia and Bama, Texas will draw superior slots compared to the bulk of the SEC, just like they did in the B12, but they'll still need to slot in. Texas/Rice will likely end up on ESPN2 now, instead of Fox. New location, new contract, new auction. Once ESPN auctions its week and has their T1 window, then they get into slotting. The Texas/Arkansas likely won't be bumped by Houston/KSU, because its likely one of the top three SEC games that day, which matters more. Where the SEC/B12 competition comes in is which slot you get. Texas/Arkansas would be bumped to one of the best of the top six slots, where KSU/UH, which seems a stretch for the T1 game they choose, would fall in the bottom third of the six. Also, keep in mind we're talking general averages on games. There will be some weeks where there are more or less. Some weeks the SEC may have all six and others where they may get one and the ACC gets three. They're looking at totals per season, not really a weekly benchmark.

The overnight slot isn't T1, so it would be extra. They'll use it, because they have all that 4C inventory now, much like you'll see ESPN Friday night games with that inventory, but their main Mouse window will be on ABC/ESPN during the main three windows.

True. But, to Thunder's point above, its really ABC/ESPN as T1, so six slots a Saturday for the three conferences. And, for the B12, their T1 is split between two properties. So it is completely viable that you'd see the SEC net three of those six, the ACC 2 and the B12 1, which would still give the B12 two T1 games per weekend.

Well, ESPN, anymore, is T1...or like T1.25. All the bowl games, playoffs and even MNF is there to similar ratings to ABC. The B12 isn't taking space away from the SEC's contract, they'll still get half the main slots. The B12 is keeping what they had and splitting the remains of the old Big Ten slots with the SEC that are now going away. Also, Texas and OU will see less ABC games with this move, Oklahoma more so than Texas, but the ones they have will be larger audiences.

Basically the Beavs and Cougs are suing the Pac for control and have their day in court mid-November. Once that's settled they'll know if they can keep the shell and money left over to merge with the MWC or they'll be the last to turn the lights off on their way to the MWC.

No, I said "using last year's numbers" If you want to go break down a multiple year analysis, feel free. But last year Oklahoma State took $13m from the school, regardless of it you liked that it appeared on the ledger or not.

Not sure on the rumor, but, financially, these will all be on ABC or FOX. You don't spend T1 money to put them on ESPN2 or FS1. You have 25-30 other games, each, outside these 20 to dump on the other channels.

So you agreed with the numbers.

In 2022, Oklahoma State reported $75,606 in student fees and a $12,934,006 allocation from the school.

Exactly. Some schools charge them after, some build them into fees for loans. Some just do small amounts, some fees cover all student tickets to all sports. It's an anomaly that doesn't matter in the finance comparison, but its hard to strip out.

Last year Iowa had $650k in student fees and Iowa State had $1,847,367 in student fees. This is my point, some allocations come from fees, which are just pre-sold student activity tickets. The way USA Today publishes it though, they mix them with school funds in aggregate. You have to drill in to find the detail, and I don't plan on doing that for 60 schools, hence the disclaimer.

Found this interesting: If you look at the latest finances and strip out allocations as "school funding", even though some are just student tickets to all events as a fee and shouldn't count, then do a P/L on it, these are the current P5 teams that pop up (these are in order from most to least and doesn't include privates because I don't feel like looking them all up individually): Turns profit on own (25)- Indiana, Georgia, Ohio State, Purdue, Kansas State, Michigan, A&M, Michigan State, Texas, Florida, Oregon, Nebraska, Penn State, Clemson, Arkansas, Kansas, Auburn, Bama, LSU, Illinois, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma and Louisville Less than $5m in loss (e.g. student ticket crowd) (8) - Iowa, Texas Tech, Wisconsin, WVU, Iowa State, Tennessee, Minnesota, South Carolina. $5-$15m in loss (10)- NC State, UNC, Ole Miss, Utah, GTech, Oklahoma State, Florida State, Colorado, Virginia, Washington State. $15m-$25m in loss (5) - Oregon State, VTech, Washington, Maryland, Arizona State +$25m in loss (4) - Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Rutgers.

Maybe eventually, but a quick move by him would be shocking, especially since all of his kids, even his daughter, play for the Buffs now. Also, its not like he's not getting recruits and he owns the place.

I don't know the schedule, but I'd agree, of the B16 teams next year Colorado comes in with the most buzz, followed by Utah. One of the Texas teams, likely TCU just due to the past year or two, and then whoever starts to step up to end the season. Not sure Texas will take many dings this year with everyone else down, but Oklahoma does not look like a world beater. Whoever makes it to the end will have the leg up for next year. Definitely not top four, but I'd expect West Virginia and Iowa State to get a lot of Fox love, because they have a higher floor on their audiences on national games than the others, e.g. they do well even when they suck.

No no, the A package is the Mouse, the B package is Fox. In the A package they get: The top 4 overall picks 6 of the top 8 8 of the top 12 and 12 of the top 20 picks They also get the basketball and football CCGs Fox, with the B package, gets to pick in the gaps of the above, and I'm guessing it goes 1 to 1 after 20. However, Fox gets 26 games for Fox and FS1, which is basically 2 per week. If you figure ESPN's is similar, but with better content, you should see roughly four games a week on ABC, Fox, FS1 and an ESPN channel. The rest, that aren't on Thursday or Friday, will likely fall to ESPN+, but so far this year they have had more of the games that would stream land on something like the U. To get to these kinds of payouts they need at least two T1 a week. It also is likely to change. With 12 teams you have 54 conference games a year. With 16 you have 72. They didn't pay the four new teams $120m a year for all that content to go on streaming. My guess is they get an ABC/ESPN/FOX on Saturday, and some of these games fall to ESPN late night or on Friday.

They do have slot and promotional guarantees. That's how contracts get priced.

They need 100% until this contract ends, they don't need it in 2026.

They're talking about the bylaws, not a GoR. Separate agreements. The Bylaws dictate the buyout structure they're discussing.

Ha, who would have thought Charlotte v Maryland wouldn't have drawn block buster numbers

Its nearly insane for a noon eastern or prime-time game, the two best slots. That's how crazy it is. On the east coast it ended at 2:15am!

that would be glorious