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Everything posted by alincoln
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There are hundreds of women who could competently perform Kimes' role for 1/3 of the cost.
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Everyone get their posts in now because this thread has months left to live. I'm sure it can be resurrected on the Arizona State board.
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Agree with the exception that HS soccer no longer plays any role in development in the US. College and pro recruiting/scouting of youth players is almost entirely conducted at ECNL/GA events. D1 coaches have told me that they haven't been to a high school soccer game in over a decade. You aren't allowed to play HS if you play MLS Next and many ECNL clubs discourage it. HS soccer is generally awful.
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The women's clubs are part of the men's clubs. The women are also beginning to have big attendance numbers.
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True. We learned this lesson after our oldest and started our others at the ECNL club at young ages. It's much cheaper than the older ages but not free by any means.
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MLS Next is evolving into a true academy system and a handful of USL academies are comparable. The younger age group teams (U-15) generally consist of local/regional talent while the older age groups consist of regional/national teams. Many local player get weeded out as they get older and move back to a local ECNL team to focus on a college scholarship. BrickHorn is absolutely correct regarding the wildly different financing models in the US and the rest of the world. The academies of small clubs in Europe are funded by the local communities who attend the matches of the senior team. The club invests resources into the academy to produce players for the senior team and hopefully sell some players to bigger clubs. This system (which would involve a self-funded lower level professional team in every suburb of every major city and every small town) will never exist in the U.S. particularly for women. As a result, pay to play will remain the dominant model outside of the academies of the top division clubs (NWSL for women and MLS and potentially USL for men). Parents will remain the primary source of funding for club soccer and clubs will seek to achieve their goals (winning, developing (this is important to parents and clubs) and obtaining college scholarships). Observers who don't understand/won't acknowledge the unique realities of the American system love to preach "invert the pyramid" without offering any path to actually get there. The best path forward is to continue to improve coaching and development at the elite clubs (which is exactly what they are doing) and implement a more comprehensive scholarship program at these clubs.
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FC Dallas ECNL is pay to pay. Yes, the best of the best can apply for fee waivers but that is the case for all elite ECNL clubs as mentioned way up thread. There isn't enough money in professional women's soccer in the US to finance girls academies at the level of MLS academies. MLS academy players cost the clubs around $50K a year per player. Half of the NWSL teams can barely make payroll and they don't have an NBA to bail them out. Elite girls soccer club leadership would love to find this magical pot of gold that you appear to believe exists to eliminate pay to play. Unfortunately, the possibility of one day breaking the world record transfer fee of $500K for a woman soccer player hasn't proven sufficient to drive investment.
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Already the case for MLS (the entire U-15 roster from the recent U-15 CONCACAF championships was comprised of MLS academy players). The NWSL doesn't have enough teams or resources to support an MLS-style academy system. They play in ECNL or GA and are focused on just competing at that level. MLS academy rosters consist of players from across the region (on the younger teams) and country (at u-17 and u-19 levels) who live with guest families in the city where the club is located. NWSL academies are nothing like that.
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The top clubs just have better quality in depth. Almost all of their starters will receive D-1 offers while only only a handful of players from the next tier of clubs will. There are at least 100 high quality clubs in the country although 20 or so are at another level. The 2023 ECNL national champions came from 5 different states. U-13 Slammers (CA) U-14 PDA (NJ) U-15 Michigan Hawks U-16 Solar (TX) U-17 SLSG (MO)
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In looking more into that list, it only tracks players from teams who used instat which was limited to GA teams that were playing and a couple ECNL teams. It's basically worthless as a tool to evaluate the depth of elite club soccer. Here is the current U-17 national team where no club had more than 2 representatives and there are players from 16 states: Mateya Dessieux (Tophat; Knoxville, Tenn.) Sonoma Kasica (Florida Premier FC; St. Petersburg, Fla.) Aven Alvarez (North Carolina Courage Academy; New Hill, N.C.) Elizabeth Boamah (Albion SC; San Diego, Calif.) Jordyn Bugg (San Diego Surf SC; El Cajon, Calif.) Nicki Fraser (Real Colorado; Highlands Ranch, Colo.) Reese Klein (Florida United SC; Cooper City, Fla.) Hope Munson (Utah Avalanche; Salt Lake City, Utah) Tanna Schornstein (San Diego Surf SC; San Diego, Calif.) Carla Small (IMG Academy; Waipahu, Hawaii) Nawreen Ahmad (Virginia Union FC; Falls Church, VA) Kendall Bodak (New England FC; Monson, Mass.) Shaela Bradley (Portland Thorns Academy; La Center, Wash.) Isabela Engle (Minnesota Thunder Academy; Edina, Minn.) Claire Hutton (World Class FC; Bethlehem, N.Y.) Neely Kerr (Tophat SC; Buford, Ga.) Linda Ullmark (Western New York Flash; Buffalo, N.Y.) Emeri Adames (Solar SC; Red Oak, Tex.) Sophia Bradley (PDA; Wayne, N.J.) Ava McDonald (FC Dallas; Allen, Tex.) Miri O'Donnell (FC Bay Area Surf; San Ramon, Calif.) Jaden Thomas (FC Dallas; Dallas, Texas) Amalia Villarreal (Michigan Jaguars FC; Lansing, Mich.) And here is the current u-15 national team where no club had more than 2 representatives and there are players from 15 states: Evan O'Steen (Solar SC; Grapevine, Texas) Liesel Tetmeyer (Sting Austin; Round Rock, Texas) Pearl Cecil (San Diego Surf SC; Encinitas, Calif.) Natalie Chudowsky (New York SC; Westport, Conn.) Izzy Dalke (St. Louis Scott Gallagher; Belleville, Ill.) Makenna Holub (Eastside FC; Redmond, Wash.) Michaela Panella (Western New York Flash; East Amherst, N. Y.) Mia Villalpando (San Diego Surf SC; Bonita, Calif.) Vienna Whipple (Crossfire Premier SC; Bellevue, Wash.) Scottie Antonucci (Legends FC; Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.) Reese Canada (Michigan Hawks; Fenton, Mich.) Sierra Dupre (Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC; Pittsburgh, Pa.) Riley Kennedy (North Carolina Courage; Holly Springs, N.C.) Jaiden Rodriguez (San Diego Surf SC; San Diego, Calif.) Chloe Sadler (La Roca FC; Hyde Park, Utah) Ashlyn Anderson (Indy Premier SC; Carmel, Ind.) Micayla Johnson (Michigan Hawks; Troy, Mich.) Ella Kral (Lamorinda SC; Berkeley, Calif.) Paige Pasinski (SC del Sol; Phoenix, Ariz.) Ava Stack (Concorde Fire; Atlanta, Ga.)
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Lulz. That list is from the COVID year when CA (which produces the most elite players in the country by a mile), the NW, the Midwest and the Northeast didn't play.
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ECNL rosters are 18 so I would guess that one (if not more) of the girls in the pic are injured (par for the course unfortunately in girls soccer where the frequency of significant injuries is insane). With two goalies, that is only 6 field subs which isn't that much when you are playing in the heat with games every day in these national tournaments. The CBs almost always play the entire game so you have 6 subs for the other 8 field positions. Also in ECNL, you can't come back in until the next half when you are subbed so it's not like HS and college soccer with the dumb constant subbing.
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Do you have direct experience with an ECNL training environment or are you just regurgitating the outdated media talking points regarding elite club soccer? ODP has not been viewed by anyone as a solution to anything for 20 years.
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US Soccer is a gravy train.
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The reaction to this exit is hilariously overblown. We got knocked out by a team we dominated that is now in the semis because almost our entire team was injured or returning from injury and an extremely weak coach. Without injuries and with a real coach, our forwards would have consisted of Swanson (starting LW), Macario (starting 9/RW), Smith (starting 9/RW), Hatch, Rodman, Press and MAYBE Morgan. Our MF would have consisted of Ertz, Lavelle, Sam Mewis and Horan and we would have played Sauerbrunn, Girma, Dunn and Fox in the back (our defense was actually statistically dominant). There are plenty of other players in the pool that are young and highly skilled that dumbass Vlatko didn't bring in because he is too weak to move past the old guard who actually control the team (a HUGE issue the media is too weak to address). The old guard were crucial parts of arguably the greatest women's team of all time but their primary concern is staying on the USWNT gravy train as opposed to the best interests of the team. Rapinoe shouldn't have been anywhere near this team much less actually playing and everyone knew it . . . Vlatko, her, the entire USWNT organization . . . but only she could remove herself from the team and she wasn't going to miss out on that sweet WC-related cash. Her greed should tarnish her legacy a bit. The US development system will put us at a competitive disadvantage going forward but that was not the issue in this world cup. England's bright young attacking talent (Alessia Russo) was developed at UNC in the US system. That said, the European club system is going to get better and better while we are going to continue to rely on a MLS-lite academy system and the ECNL/Division 1 college development system. Our elite players need to move to Europe and I expect that they will as the money gets better and better. I'm not that concerned though because, unlike men, many of the best female athletes in the US play soccer and the coaching and development at the top 100 ECNL clubs in the country is good to elite. Go watch Solar's U-12 team if you think we have weak coaching/tactics at the elite club level. It's also ridiculously competitive with the best players/teams in the country regularly playing against the best. The weakest players on the top teams are also getting weeded out annually at young ages. If your daughter is an ELITE player in almost any city in the country, an ECNL club will almost definitely find you and try to make it work for you to play on their ECNL team. That's reality. The media loves to claim that elite club soccer is an entirely white upper class environment which is inaccurate. Here is a picture of the Solar (DFW's best ECNL program) U-16 2023 ECNL national champions: This team is no exception. There is a ridiculous amount of talent in the US women's game and the future is extremely bright if USSF gets its head out of its ass which is admittedly unlikely because it is primarily a political organization driven more by the greed of certain of its stakeholders that the best interests of US Soccer.
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2024 NBA draft thread - who goin steal Bron from Lakers?
alincoln replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Basketball
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/covid-19-surges-linked-to-spike-in-heart-attacks/ https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00403-0 It's not exactly controversial -
2024 NBA draft thread - who goin steal Bron from Lakers?
alincoln replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Basketball
This is the third cardiac arrest of a young male athlete I have heard of this month. The other two were in our local community. I'm sure it is all just a strange coincidence though.- 365 replies
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The U.S. really has 2.5 teams at the World Cup. The U.S., the Philippines (18 Americans) and Jamaica (11 Americans). 24 more Americans are scattered across the other teams including 5 on Ireland and Haiti and 4 on Nigeria.
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Speaking of being offended: cmt pulls Jason aldean video
alincoln replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Daily Texan
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Speaking of being offended: cmt pulls Jason aldean video
alincoln replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Daily Texan
Are you sure? The Texas suburbanites tell me that everyone in your town is a meth addled jesus freak who commits violent crimes at the same rate as experienced in the big cities. -
It's easier to understand the USSF's decisions when you recognize that the USSF views the USMNT as a tool to prop up MLS. The FOX broadcast team (Donovan and Lalas primarily) is instructed to use its pulpit to justify USSF's decisions to the casuals. Berhalter got the job again because he is more than willing to implement this strategy. MLS is ok for players in their teens but anyone with USMNT aspirations should be looking to move to Europe ASAP. The salary cap/structure, lack of relegation and meaningful cup qualification (CL, Europa) and overexpansion limits competition for playing time, renders the games meaningless and results in abysmal defending.
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Hopefully this tournament also reinforced to our young players that they need to get the fuck out of MLS ASAP. Awful league.
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