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So ND is in, Miami is out, right? Clemson is in with a win and out with a loss. I think SMU should be in even if they lose. If aggy wins tomorrow and loses to UGA does Bama get in or aggy?

Try telling that to a player. If they agree and walk away they're fucking pussies. I have no problem with them pushing back.

Ideally yeah, but they just supposed to stand there and let it happen? I don't blame them at all for pushing back.

Nah, I don't like either of these fanbases, but Ohio State protected their field from another Baker Mayfield incident, and I don't blame them, take the win and celebrate with your fans dipshits.

Or Ohio State for letting him get away with it, they should have beat his ass.

Shit happens. Considering we haven’t had a year like this since 2005 I’m not gonna act like we should be invulnerable to a shitty season. Gundy isn’t getting fired and the suggestion of it from inside and outside the fanbase is ridiculous. If he wants to retire I wouldn’t lose any sleep but he’s not getting fired and regardless of how you feel about him after this season you don’t fire a guy whose solely responsible for our current relevance because of one bad season. He needs new coordinators though and if he’s too stubborn to do it I’ll be pretty pissed and hope for the best knowing he’s not getting fired.

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I’ve been there and agree. There’s nothing intimidating about 90,000 homos swaying back and forth and singing showtunes from the late 1800s.

My SIL got a free turkey from work and I'm responsible for cooking. I think I'm going to quarter it and smoke the breast and roast the legs and thighs in the oven. I've seen both the whole breast section smoked bone in and I've seen it taken off the bone for smoking. I'm thinking boneless, I want it to cook as fast as possible without sacrificing flavor. I've also seen boneless cooked without the skin. I've given up getting good smoked skin but I'm thinking of leaving it on for the smoke for moisture and taking it off late in the cook and reseasoning the breast. Lots of butter involved obviously. Wish me luck.

I have an SMU degree in my wall, I’m all for them blowing up however it happens. I think Clemson’s “blue blood” run is over. FSU is a wildcard, not sure if they’ll go the way of Nebraska or find their way back, I think the latter. SMU will be a regular at the top because most of the ACC is dogshit. Which changes my mind on CFP spots. ACC will get two in more often than the Big XII because the bottom half of the ACC are punching bags to inflate records while the bottom half of the Big XII will always be salty making it harder to come out with fewer than two losses at the top.

Our freshman QB was finally given a chance and looks good. Defense still can’t stop a light breeze. Shedeur and Hunter are gonna have a field day and I don’t see how we stop it unfortunately.

The chaos champ is very unlikely. Each upset is possible and at least one is likely to happen but all of them happening in one week is extremely low odds, but who knows, would be fun to see for the lols I guess. And lol at status being “cemented” in one season. The ACC will have plenty of years with 2 or 3 loss champs and one spot. The fact that SMU came off the AAC bench and dominated those fools says way more about the status of the “mighty” ACC.

I agree. If the top Big XII teams were 1 loss it would be different but both conferences are beating each other up and sec gets the edge.

I want to make sure I'm following the conversation. Are you suggesting that only the Big XII teams should avoid FCS opponents to try and improve its perception in the new landscape, or that everyone should stop schduling FCS? The disconnect I keep having is the criticisms of Big XII teams playing FCS when literally every program but Texas does that every year. I get the sense that maybe some are talking specifically about the Big XII to help perception and improve the chance of getting mroe than one team into the CFP. I'm just not sure it would change anything in that regard.

I guess I just fundamentally disagree that adding an 11th P4 opponent every season would make any sort of a difference in perception of the league come CFP time. The helmet schools will always get that benefit of the doubt, as will the second tier SEC schools, without ever being questioned for playing FCS and G6 schools. If anything, playing a tougher noncon schedule just increases the possibility of an extra CFP killing loss since our margin outside of winning the conference title is razor thin. As far as my school goes, we have Oregon home and away the next two seasons, then @Arky, then Bama home and away. I just hope we get shit back on track for at least some of those years, our non-con shouldn't be questioned in the Oregon/Bama years, and Arky always might be decent.

Lol, okay, it's directly responsive to the topic, while acknowleding the differences in the leagues. I get that a bunch of people here think the Big XII is terrible and should just shut down or join the NAIA, but it's just dumb.

With 4 non-cons to play with, 13 of the 16 SEC schools play only one P4 non-con game in 2025: Arky (v. ND); Auburn (v. Baylor); UGA (v. GT); UK (v Lou); LSU (v. Clemson); MSU (v. Ariz. St.); Mizzou (v. KU); OU (v. Mich); Ole Miss (v. Wash St); Tenn (v. Syracuse in ATL); UT (v. Ohio State); Aggy (v. ND); Vandy (v. VT) Granted, some of them are helmet school matchups that the Big XII won't get, because we don't have any helmet schools left: Bama-FSU; LSU-Clemson; OU-Mich; UT-Ohio St. Some non-helmet schools have good matchups: Arky-ND; UF-FSU & Miami; South Carolina-Clemson & VT; Aggy-ND. Every SEC school but Texas has an FCS opponent. The SEC is better than the Big XII by every metric, including more big time non-con matchups. I just have to always push back on the notion that the Big XII schedules nothing but scrimages in the non-con and are somehow unique. The 9 game conference schedule is also a factor as shown above with the conference strength of schedule metric.

Each result individually is plausible, but all of them happening together seems really, really unlikely. It would be absolutely nuts if it happened though, lol.

Here's a look at the surly Mayfield fanclub. Brotastic!

I just don't think they can "punish" SMU for losing the CCG. If they play Miami and lose then either Miami is the lone ACC team, or Miami and SMU are both in, they can't just let Clemson leapfrog SMU in that scenario. Otherwise, they are confirming all of the concerns that CCG's can be a negative with more risk than reward. They are trying desparately to avoid that perception.

Yup on both. It's not even like Jordan Love was making crazy plays with luck involved, receivers were running wide open without a defender within 5 yards. It continued the entire game, not a single adjustment. Fuck him, forever, and fuck fat mike. If jerry extends him, I'm just not gonna watch until they both are fucking dead.

Very true, I was watching with my then brother-in-law, an OU fan who never attended and held some online degree from university of something. It was glorious.

Yeah no flag in that is complete horseshit. Shedeur probably wasn’t flagged because the ref was trying to separate the players and didn’t know if he was shoved directly or if he was just in the way of the shoving match between players.

Refs got it right adding a second to the BYU-ASU game for a last Hail Mary after the fans stormed the field. ASU coach looked dumb as fuck arguing otherwise. Was probably just embarrassed that his stupid ass clock strategy didn’t end the game. Just ice it with a score and if you fail it’s a 90+ yard Hail Mary.

I see for some they're in the "Mayfield Looks Pretty Good" part of the cycle. That's the part where his teammates say they like him. When he fucks up again and gets moved again we can start all over!