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Posts posted by SmokeyTheBear
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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:
She's actually appearing in this?
An arraignment is not a real high-tension proceeding, typically, except as pertains to pre-trial detention, but she's not nearly serious enough a law dog for this.
I'm only half paying attention but she came out and did a statement. Not sure if her role extends past that today.
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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:
Which lawyer?
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4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:
What did Trump (I assume) say about the prosecutor that has CNN losing their shit? I turned it on too late.
It was his lawyer making a statement that the prosecutors "hate America".
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It's performance art. This installation is called "sooey" and is highlighting how Jack Smith is going to give a Deliverance style fucking to the orange clown.
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Hannity got a bit flustered there. Newsom is making a compelling argument to be the fighter and communicator the Dems need moving forward.
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6 minutes ago, Rimbo said:
Hillary's email server was wrong, but I don't think we can attribute to malice where stupidity will cover the bill.
Most people don't understand basic email security. If they knew what I knew about email, nobody would ever use it. I still use it because i just don't fucking care who knows about things I email.
Some billion dollar companies don't understand digital security in general. It's something that most people put a willful blind eye to because it's all too complex. And government has a tendency to lag behind in adoption due to those misunderstandings or cost concerns.
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7 minutes ago, deech said:I will state this as someone who is as anti-Trump as they come:
Hillary's email server was unconscionable. She knew exactly what she was doing and why she was doing it. I believe her having the server was likely be a clear violation of the law, but I am no criminal law expert. I believe there were enough articles written at the time of the various laws she would have violated in conducting government business like that on a private email server.
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Trump did something totally different. He stored highly secretive documents including documents containing intelligence sourced information in a fucking toilet at Mar Lago where every foreign agent known to man would have been actively working as it was a target rich environment. He was asked nicely to return these documents several times. Then legally they demanded he return the information. His attorneys said they returned all the documents they had under oath after conducting a diligent search and still the government found more. Then to figure out who had access to the rooms where this highly sensitive information was stored, they requested electronically stored videos so they could pin point exactly who had access to the various rooms where these documents were stored and he had the fucking pool guy flood the room.
So in summary I can buy the argument that Hillary should also have been prosecuted for some of the bullshit she pulled. But their actions are not equal, similar, or in the same fucking ballpark. Trump's actions are hundreds if not thousands of times worse.
The whole email server thing is not Hillary issue, it's a full government one. That practice started with Powell and Bush, was never made explicitly illegal, so has become a standard practice (which I think is wrong). Time to move on from that.
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So we're just going to get this scene at 2:33 with some no name lawyer and Cannon allowing it all, right?
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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:
Yknow, you'd think the GQP might have a few qualms about having the first Presidential nominee, not named Lyndon LaRouche, subject to criminal indictments.
But yeah . . . Geezus Tapdancing Christ.
This indictment is so much more powerful than Bragg's.
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9 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
it's gotta be. there's no way that man can ever come close to that much power again. we won't survive it
ANY (wo)man who becomes President. Nip this type of shit in the bud and set a precedent.
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Is this bad for him? Seems bad.
@TwiceHorntalk me down
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1 minute ago, Hammerin Hank said:
I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet. I’m curious who recorded the tape, and wonder if we’ll ever find out.
Well, the orange idiot did keep an unsecure cell phone in his pocket all thru his Presidency. Any government with decent technical capabilities can get into the mic/cam. Probably not what happened in this instance but he obviously didn't care about being discrete with anything, let alone national security information.
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Is the question whether or not Surly is just another safe space echo-chamber for those that want to live in their alternate reality, devoid of any information that challenges their world view and fee-fees?
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10 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:
Are you being serious, or purposefully silly? How many NATO countries want to actively send in troops to kick Russia out of there? The US certainly doesn't.
I do agree with others that Poland and the Baltic States are probably rarin' to go, but virtually the rest of NATO has no desire to send their own troops in there. In the US, politically it would be a disaster for the president and political party that did such a thing.
I do feel alarmist about the power plant right now, particularly after what happened with the dam, but I'm not seeing the kind of rhetoric from the US and other countries I'd like to about the issue. Mostly we're still collectively dithering about whether it was Ukraine or Russia that blew it up (narrator: It was Russia).
Anyway, that's not going to be a realistic option. Remember, one member nation can veto any new member. That's why Turkiye can keep Sweden of all places out of NATO. There's simply no way you're going to get every NATO country to agree to such a deal.
It was mostly said in jest. It's not the right time to make that move but I know it would improve the situation in Ukraine and expedite the end of this war (in their territory anyways). It also shows the world (China), that we really won't abide these types of transgressions. By jumping into one war, you may stop another. Maybe not. Yall need to chill, just throwing a hypothetical out there.
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I don't see why we can't expedite their inclusion to NATO and say, Russia you have 1 month to leave all of Ukraine (including Crimea) or else Article 5 is triggered.
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Leaving in 2 weeks to spend a week in Scotland (2 nights in each: Inverness, Isle Of Skye, Edinburgh) and a month in Utrecht, Netherlands.
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