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SmokeyTheBear

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  1. 8 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    Ignore the troll. Jesus, how many years does it have to go on before you learn that simple internet rule? 

    Here's the thing, I don't think he is a troll. They really do just believe these crazy things. They bought into the Fox News narrative years ago and that set millions of people to go down a certain path where "both sides", "whataboutism", "identity politics", "fake news", racism only against whites, etc are the prisms they view every issue thru. 

    I've seen this same behavior in family members who are otherwise very intelligent and capable. But once you really challenge them, their arguments fall apart because they are solely propped up on feelings and paranoia they've been taught to embrace; not some objective truth. 

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  2. 8 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

    Yes. The Senate and electoral college have been in place since the beginning. It’s the system. Complaining about it does nothing.  
     

    Winning elections solves everything. How do Dems do that?

     

    Please. Fox News gets great ratings partly because it’s the only big conservative outlet. And the fact that conservative pages are most linked on Facebook is only part of the story. Social media companies literally put their thumbs on the scale before the last election in favor of Biden. They also shape discourse in unseen ways via their Algos. 

    So if Dems did it in the last election, are you saying Russia could have done it in the previous in favor of Trump? 

  3. 2 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

    What confounds me the most are those who can take issue with one point, ie “the both sides comment is out of context,” and ignore the rest entirely.

    Oh you see it regularly on here. Did you think Russia had some involvement in our politics in the past few years? Oh, well then whatever you say is completely invalid. (although Russia was involved and there is evidence of some sort of pee tape, but who really gives a shit? It was a funny side story) 

  4. 44 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

    I can’t believe there are adults who don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to subject themselves to being called a cunt over and over because their politics is different than the majority of the board. 

    If someone invited you over to their house and repeatedly told you that you were stupid and called you names whenever they disagreed with something you said, and compares you to Hitler would you keep going over to their house? If so why?  Are you that self loathing?  
    why should my hang out on the internet be different than my real life?  

    it’s funny- on the old site I think I noticed like 5 or 6 of the 8 or 9 people that acted the worst to me posting in the “I have a drinking problem” thread. 
    theres 3 or 4 I can think of right off the bat that I don’t need to get into, but just awful and terrible shit. Go on a bender and just torch anyone you disagree with. Why would I want that?  Why would anyone? 

    I bet, to think of one person that’s a lightning rod- @Johnny Sack is a good hang. But he’s reviled by the cabal. I bet in real life none of them would say anything. But on the flip side people giving him shit seem pretty fucking miserable and probably on benders a lot of time. Why should he post somewhere where everyone is going to ignore whatever he says and tell him fuck off trust fund baby?  Should he debase himself to that?  For what purpose?

    I have zero doubt that @workswithseed is good people. But he’s treated like shit by plenty. He’s basically a kid without fully formed opinions trying to figure life out for himself and he’s clearly got a good heart. Does that matter

    to a bunch?  No. 
    and he brings up a good point about our resident commie @bad_teammate  he’s without a doubt the worst teammate. But he engages in idea based debate respectfully without being a dick. I could laugh at him for being a lunatic all day long and never once want to distance myself from being around him because I don’t agree with him. 
    Fuck that shit man. 

    You've obviously not seen the pattern of responses by those posters highlighted. They get shit on because, by that point, most are tired of their disingenuous or completely fallacious point of view. So they get called out. No one owes anyone a pat on the back for bringing complete bullshit opinions/statements to the table. We have misinformation overload right now and it's important to call it out. I'd argue it's a duty of all citizens of our country right now. 

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  5. 4 minutes ago, lmao said:

    So this all because we don't want to see it as win (it isn't) for Trump? I despise the guy as much as anyone else but this is dumb.

    Uhhhh no. That was in response to the common assertion that Trump had an investigation that showed China was clearly to blame and then Biden shut down a completely above board investigation to make some political win. 

  6. 4 minutes ago, slorch said:

    Who suggested taking Trump’s word just because?  There was no investigation, independent or otherwise… or we risked upsetting China. GASP!

     

     

    I don't think that happened like you are framing it

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  7. 4 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

    I'm not sure if this was in response to me, but I was just trying to explain how I felt the situation happened and the dynamics at play. It's one thing to have the aggressive and rude interactions and discussions as you said above and get name called or whatever, who cares and yes to be expected with this sites charter and origin, but it's quite another when the CR feature players completely dismiss those of us with conflicting views as trolls because, in their own mind, they are so righteous and correct that nobody could hold a dissenting position and belief and be serious. That's how DT came to be, in it's current state, in my opinion.

    That said, my favorite CR posters are all posters who hold almost polar opposite opinions than I do. Bad_teammate is oft-cited as a fan favorite from both sides, but also many other super liberal posters are fun and interesting to read.

    Its in response to all the ones who are so afraid to engage in that thread out of some weird fear of being crowdsourced (which really only happens to those who earn it, which is rare). You have stuck in there no matter what. Kudos to you, seriously. 

    Personally, I don't like posting to DT because I don't want to worry about discussing a point of view that might involve some political angle. Id far prefer to discuss topics freely with the understanding there will be some assholes that might respond. So be it, ignore them. I want to have my views and opinions challenged. All. The. Time. Cause that allows me to find truth. You can't do that in some gated capacity for fear of feelings. 

  8. It's pretty hard to trust what the Trump administration says when they were in pure reaction to whatever dumb shit he said. Forced to make things up to make what he said reality, instead of reality dictating what he said. So yes, everyone has a feeling that China fucked up and inadvertently let loose this virus, but that doesn't mean we blindly take the word of Trump without some sort of independent investigation to prove out the cause. 

  9. 11 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


    Red lobster was my first gig....didn’t really get a church crowd that I can remember. SW side of Houston, pretty significant number of working class black guests. Their tipping was all over the place, but they were uniformly pretty nice. I really didn’t have any awful experiences there.

    Then Birrapporettis in....River Oaks. Had some SUPER shitty tables there, including the old ladies l mentioned.

    Then, Convict Hill here in Austin. On weekends and nights, drew an upper middle class crowd - we served steaks and wild game, so it wasn’t a cheap dinner. The nicest customers (although the tips weren’t big because the tabs were small because cheap lunch specials) were.....the blue collar guys from the Motorola plant. Never had a single issue with any of them, even if I only made $6 a table because their total tab was $24.

    You’re fighting this so, so, so hard. And I really don’t know why, when it messes with what we all know the be true: the more conspicuous a “Christian” you are, the more likely you are to be a dick. You never argued with the fact that when you see someone advertise as a “Christian-owned” business....the smart thing to do is run, he’s about to cheat/gouge you.

    You no doubt served my family once or twice then. I grew up in Oak Hill. 

  10. 8 hours ago, Both Tacos said:

    Just curious...a woman can say "My body, my choice" and yet that choice leads to a death of human life but a person can't say whether they want to take a vaccine or not?

    It's really quite simple. One is a personal choice that impacts that immediate family only. The other has the potential to impact anyone you come across in your day to day. If you didn't go out in society, then who cares if you don't want to vaccinate because you are not a risk to everyone around you. 

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  11. In an exchange first reported by the Washington Post, McCarthy said: “There’s …there’s two people, I think, Putin pays: [California Representative Dana] Rohrabacher and Trump … [laughter] … swear to God.”

    According to the transcript, speaker Paul Ryan immediately responded: “This is an off-the-record … [laughter] … NO LEAKS … [laughter] … alright?!”

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  12. 16 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

    it ebbs and flows. i moved the covid thread because i kept getting political reports. then i've had to clean up a couple other dt threads for political posts. it's spiked recently, and i reckon seeing the reports come in for him is as irritating as it is for me. i'd rather not spend ten minutes editing posts that are political in the dt. it's always the same folks.

    i don't see why it's so difficult to talk about politics things on the political board. 

    This may be skirting some line, but can we identify these folks? If only to highlight to them their bad behavior? 

  13. 2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

    To turn this back to President Biden. Did you know that Senator Ted Cruz is now tweeting that President Biden is covering for China? Who did not see that coming?

    Dudette, Jyna is the preferred nomenclature

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