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Testing. These seem to be heavily located around military bases. As for classifying, all of skunkworks was classified for decades. Much of it still is. It takes decades of development. The U2/SR-71 was first commissioned back in the 50's & 60's. The only limitations now are the human pilot. Radical speeds and G-forces are no longer a concern. I just can't shake the notion that advanced aliens would cross billions of miles undetected, stay undetected, and send down blinking, lit probes that can be seen with the naked eye. They can cross the vast expanses of space, but need drones to get the details? I'm not saying that is THE explanation, but it's plausible.

I have no dog in this fight. I WANT to believe that this is extraterrestrial, and I hope it is, but I have my doubts. As for fooling, you can make the argument that if you can fool the best military in the world, you can fool everyone. You also have the siloed military complex that keeps secrets secret and away from the frontline troops.

To clarify, I don't think all of this is tech, and for the most part, if it is, it's ours. I think much of this is equal parts drone tech and equal parts illusion tech to "make" it seem that something is there. Fooling radar goes back to the advent of radar. Chaff is nothing new. The problem with chaff is that you know something is there. It's an electronic smoke screen. What if you could fool countermeasures into thinking something is here, over there, everywhere. That's the tenet of asymmetrical warfare. It's the cat with a laser-pointer.

Agreed. I just think all variables have to be taken into consideration, and we have to start with the most obvious/probable ones first.

I definitely think there could be, but there are two axis on this equation: distance and time. Billions of miles away in every direction. And billions of calendar years - so are they ahead of us, or behind us? I think the second part of the equation is the anthropomorphism effect - we assume other life has our mindset, characteristics, curiosity, etc. "We" like to study the unknown, etc. What's the probability that life evolves as schools of life akin to what we see in the sea? Where are we on the timeline of cosmic evolution?

I think much of it is the "hawthorne" effect. Everyone in Ireland see leprechauns. Everyone in Pacific NW sees bigfoot. Everyone in Mexico sees Chupacabra's. After WWII the rise in sightings is what caused the hockey stick to rise from sightings. I am NOT saying this is THE explanation, but I discount most of these as sights of what people expect to see now that the zeitgeist is established. Radio controlled drone technology goes back to the 30's. I do think most of these sighting are military in nature, but that alone isn't to say the vastness of the universe is to be discounted, but if you can travel billions of miles, your "ship/probes" are blinking lights and saucers easily detected with the naked eye? My tongue in cheek earlier post about laser pointers was about creating the perception of a thing using illusion and deception - two of the oldest tenets of warfare. You "think" you saw something, and you act upon it. Now you see it, now you don't.... None of this helps Russia in Ukraine, as it's a conventional war of attrition. Doesn't help China either as they will invade Taiwan from within. It's a fortress with no accessible beachheads and a Chinese navy without landing craft across 100 miles of rough ocean.

That Iridium is clean. Hell of a knife for the price point. Obviously the thin tip could be problematic in rougher situations (what she said...), but it's not a bushcraft knife either. I have a similar box cutter from Home Depot to yours that I use ALL THE TIME.

And filmed, for posterity.....

OU sucks Flags not being thrown. Yeah, no shit.

Flags not being thrown. Yeah, no shit.

Why is milli vanilli playing qb for OU?

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