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  1. 39 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    Since Mack left?  I’m pretty sure tie process in 1997 landed on Gary Barnett.  And a certain someone stepped in and said no you will hire Mack brown. 

    That certain someone also hand picked David McWilliams so I love Coach Royal and all....but his 1st at bat was a disaster...

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  2. 40 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

    I think what Kelly did at Notre Dame is a pretty reasonable floor. Easy state to build a fence around. If LSU fan can get over their Saban/Bama complex and give Kelly time, he should be fine there. 

    He won't have that success.  Will he win games? Yes.  Will he win the SEC and make the playoffs 2 or 3 years? No.

     

    For all the LSU is easy to win NC at with a good coach.... the years 1958-2003 need to talk to you.

  3. 2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

    I agree with everything you wrote, other than the premise that I, or anyone else with a clue, isn't giving the staff plenty of credit for the class. Outside of a few sick bastards, we're all here because, in some form, we enjoy rooting for Texas and want to see the program doing well. Sarkisian and staff had help karmically and otherwise, but they deserve whatever non-ignorant praise board denizens wish to lavish upon them.

    I have no ill will towards Sarkisian and I don't think many on here do. I'm all for seeing him create a dynastic legacy of winning title after title at Texas. That would be awesome. 

    None of that was the crux of the small debate. Roma made a post in which he called out those who were "worried about Sark getting complacent" (paraphrasing probably). I simply responded with "what in the fuck is there for Sarkisian to get complacent about at this point?" (paraphrasing probably). Then Roma intimated something negative about that premise and then I became a dog with a bone defending those who refuse the benefit of the doubt for September Wins Steve until proven otherwise. Etc. So forth. 

    Everyone should be stoked about the 2022 class, Ewers, NIL, Choice coming and Coleman going, and several potential big fish in the portal (or soon to be in the portal) coming to Texas. I know I am. 

    My apologies, I wasn't meaning to so much direct that at you.  It more just came about from the typical sunshine pumper vs. hater debate that runs on this board.  I just thought your quote was a good one to respond to.

     

    There are a few twits on here who think Sark is purely the victim of the roster and is largely blameless and a few that somehow think this recruiting class came to be soley through the use of NIL and some well timed coach relocations....

  4. 1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

    I'm legitimately interested in hearing about what you're defining as "gray" here for Sarkisian.

    Texas signed a top 5 class. Credit to Sarkisian and staff, but they had a ton of help. Frankly, a confluence of events from late November to now turned this class into what it is, versus just good ol'earnest hard work from the staff. You know, just rollin' up the sleeves and really getting their grind on, the way it ought to be, right, Roma? 

    Sarkisian chose to keep Coleman on staff. It impacted the WR play on the field and recruiting. Does Sarkisian only get credit for attempting to fix the problem? Or should that be tempered with the premise that he created the problem for himself in the first place?

    Sarkisian's team went 5-7. They lost to Kansas, choked big leagues in 3 key games, got blown out and quit against Iowa State, and failed to make a bowl game. Is none of that on Sarkisian? Should we give him all of the credit for the first halves against OU, OSU, and Baylor, and blame the players and Tom Herman for the second halves? 

    This seems to be the outlook from an emerging herd of fans. I get it. They want the HC at Texas to get the benefit of the doubt. Have at it. That isn't "gray" though. That's lily white Pollyanna hope at this point. Don't smear those of us who are from Missouri with regard to the guy, though. We're far darker than "gray" on this one until he can show us that the sun rises again on this program, but that's based on the history of his performance, which makes more sense to us than using hope as a strategy.

    I will agree excusing all Sarks mistakes and screwups this year(and they were numerable) is polyanna.  At the same time, refusing to give him or his staff any credit for anything or seeing the positives they achieved in recruiting and the possible hope it gives for the future, plus the fact that he seems to be actually addressing staff issues--- is satyanash. Yes, they had help but they also did the work and took advantage of the opportunities, Strong and Herman and their band of misfits doesn't pull off what just happened NIL and Coaching changes or not. Heck, I would argue Mack wouldn't have pulled it off either, because he would have already flown the white flag on those guys and gone else where to some low hanging easy to recruit target once they spurned him.  Not a high standard to measure against I will grant you, but it is what we currently have to compare to and they made the most of it.  Refusing to give them credit for it is akin to blaming them for no bag game to combat what other schools are doing.

     

    Yes it remains to be seen if the issues get addressed and we see improvement in the fall, but just as there is nothing wrong with criticism( see my posts after Okie state  this year) there is nothing wrong with giving credit where it is due.  

    Yes they benefitted from NIL and Coaching changes--primarily though NIL just leveled the playing field for them, and most of the flips related to coaching changes had been predicted long before the coaching change even occurred.

    Hopefully the talent infusion on D and particularly Oline and QB bear the fruit that people are projecting(we shall have to wait and see), but having what is believed to be a competent QB under center should help with at least some of the offensive issues...

     

    So no, Sark aint Bible, Royal, Akers, or even Brown yet, but the past week shows he isn't McWilliams, Mackovick, Strong, or Herman....

     

    So in summation he currently sucks a lot less than he did at the end of the season but still has a long way to go and anyone being 100% polyanna or sataynash at this point is only deluding themselves....

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  5. 2 hours ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

    This just reeks of July 4 Kelvin Banks. Duds has a too crazy an ego to be a recruiting guy

    Hey the man said Banks was comitting and signing Wed when 99% of people on here and elsewhere said at best he was releasing a top 3 and Sark was dumb to use his in home......He got brutalized for the summer predictions...but at the moment I am willing to let it ride.

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  6. 41 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

    We needed help this year with the steamy turd we laid on the field in year 1. We got just about every break would could possibly get, and we needed all of them to land some of the elite guys that we have so far. Next year, if we show big improvement, then the train will have left the station and we can recruit on our own merits again. I do expect that we will have a pretty big improvement just by getting the right guys on the field to pair with Bijan and X, and being able to stop some people more regularly than we did. 

    I haven't denied any of that....But that doesn't mean Flood doesn't deserve credit for doing what he could to recruit those guys.  I didn't say all of the credit, but at the same time NIL/coaching changes aren't soley the reason they are coming to Texas.  

    I'll put it this way. If Derick Warehime or Herb Hand were still our Oline coach----none of these guys would be coming to Texas right now NIL or no NIL.

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  7. 1 hour ago, Bevo said:

    I think that is revisionist history. We put together an NIL deal that was very sweet. Meanwhile, Oregon lost its coach.

    "We"?

     

    Banks and Williams have been rumored flip candidates for months. Long before NIL or or coaching changes.

     

    Campbell has been a Texas lean the whole process.  Has NIL helped?  Yes.  Did the coaching change probably help? Yes.

    But Flood is well regarded as both a coach and a recruiter.  There is nothing wrong with giving him some credit for sticking to his targets and working the recruitment.  If he had cut bait back in the summer/fall as some suggested on here neither would be coming to Texas now. 

     

     

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  8. 3 minutes ago, tokamak said:

    We all owe Sark and Flood apologies. All year long we thought they were getting their assess handed to them in OL recruiting, but no. Turns out they knew all along that Oregon and LSU would both be thrown into disarray, and the nation’s leading NIL program for OL would be created out of thin air by a Herculean effort from a handful of Texas fans just weeks before signing day. Out here playing 4D chess. 

    Well the smoke around the 2 OL decomitting from Oregon has been there for a while.

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