TexasRenegade

Supposedly Texas told him they would take him as a walkon but not a scholarship offer. At the time I didn't believe Herman was dumb enough to state that but who knows.

I don't buy the player excuses. How do you not know your QB is out on the field by himself after he basically willed you back from being down 35 to 17 to overtime. At least a couple of players should have been aware he was out there. I am not saying there is some big rift in the team.....I am just saying I think the team is done and has quit, they just don't care anymore.

Supposedly Blake didn't like Herman and Hand's evaluation of whichever Brockermeyer plays center. So they continued to string Texas along as Blake made the recruiting process about himself and what he could get out of it even though he had told people in private neither of the boys would play for Tom Herman. Once Clemson also backed off being interested in recruiting both of them it was a foregone conclusion they were going Bama but they kept stringing Texas along and cost them an opportunity to recruit backup options. In addition it has been rumored that they have actively recruited against Texas and in certain circles Blake and Mrs. Brockermeyer made asses of themselves about Texas in general. That is the 3rd hand gossip I put together from this site anyway. Do with it what you will.

After this I am done with the EOT. What do you do for a living? Just curious? If you work for someone or a corporation, you don't see most of the money that said employer brings in either. Yet you are expected to operate and conform to expectation of said employer. Just like the players are expected to pass class and not test positive for roids and such. Everyone has expectations they have to conform to. This is no different. The golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules. Is the EOT the reason that Tom should be fired? No, but if it ticks CDC off enough to do it, if it gets some rich old blue hair mad enough to go after Tom when the other issues with the program aren't then so much the better. It's one more log on the fire. I am done with the EOT discussion going forward we have a giant thread for it.

Just because on a certain level I agree with Blake's opinion of our illustrious head coach doesn't mean as a fan I agree with what he did regarding my school so FTB. Maybe Blake can be on that plane with Tom, Chip, and whoever else was on it earlier in this thread.

Is Tom Herman Fired yet............has anyone posted fuck the brockermeyers in this thread yet.

Lol dude it's October. No one is marching anymore. The rest of the country has moved past the summer temper tantrum(except for possibly portland...I stopped following those idiots). How old are you? Possibly older then me, but it's not a new world. If it was there would be a half dozen football teams in the SEC that would be having a fit about stuff related to their schools that are way way more offensive than the EOT have ever come close to being. The whole eyes thing is more about where the football team is at then anything else. If the team was what the other programs actually are and coached like they are...guess what the players would be fine and dandy. It's a lot easier to be a malcontent about things that don't truly matter when you are a struggling and under performing football team with an A-hole for a coach that you can't stand. If it is whole new world (insert Alladin GIf) why isn't it a whole new world for soccer, volleyball, swimming, or any of the other teams that are referenced in the article? Why, because those players understand what it is CDC is asking of them and it has nothing to do with singing a freaking song for the athletes. Again, CDC is asking them to stay and thank the fans for coming. Not participate in the song.

That and while being a giant A hole getting carte blanche on every facility request you have made while others keep waiting.....yeah not surprising.

Asking the players to stay on the field and basically respect the fans that came and supported you while not requiring you to sing the song or even Hookem is hardly being tone deaf. Every other sport that is currently playing can do it without a problem. CDC is framing it exactly right. If you don't want to sing the song fine, but you can stick around and show appreciation to the fans who came to support you. Staying for the eyes has never been about singing the actual song. As for the parent in the earlier report claiming players didn't know the eyes were going to be played....Please, Sam was magically the only player that stuck around for the song because everyone else thought we just weren't going to play it.......yeah ok....

Not sure, but Haywood needs to reread his bible. We've done a pretty good job of being Goliath and getting one shotted in the head by Daniel's before they chope our heads off.

I wasn't meaning that response to you specifically, there had been several posts including his that were acting like they revealed some great truth about Herman and Urbs not being pals.

What is this some kind of revelation? They don't like each other. they haven't liked each other, they weren't friends before the Zach Smith fallout. Meyer and Herman have sniped at each other since Herman took the Texas job, possibly before but I didn't pay any attention to tom at Cougar High. I know some thought Urban thought Herman got too much credit for the offense at tOSU, and supposedly grabbing that 5 star receiver was more about taking him out of Tom's back yard and the high rated prospect was a bonus. These 2 cats don't like each other and that has been obvious for a while now.

Crap....now we might have to fire Tom and hire Urban just to beat OU to the punch.

Now that that has been appropriately responded to..... The Texas can't do it because the financials look bad and it would be a really bad look. Look the AD is separate from the university for a reason. This is that reason. Financially we are completely separate from the University so any struggles they are having are a different matter. As for the AD itself. If TH didn't have the program in such a horrible state, the financial situation would probably be better anyway. So at least a portion of it is his fault...he is the problem. Secondly, I feel terrible for all the staffers in our bloated AD that have been furloughed and laid off.....but if any of them have the potential of generating $150,000,000.00 in revenue every fall....they wouldn't be currently furloughed would they......This is like asking if the Houston Astros should resign George Springer after they had to furlough some staff during the season......

Unless the current coach goes Mack Brown and uses up all of your official recruiting visits so that his replacement can't do jack........

Saban can be smooth as silk when he wants to though. I think Saban would probably be a cool guy to sit and talk with. Herman not so much.

Good coaching makes recruits better Good recruiting makes coaches better

A) The total unfield collapse has been happening for the past 3 weeks, it's gaining momentum like a snowball. That's the other thing about the Sad pic of Sam. The team is done, they don't even care about each other anymore. That isn't attacking them, but a team has each other's back, there was no one that was even aware enough that their star QB who just went Superman mode was standing out on the field for the eyes by himself? The team is done. B) Herman isn't Mack. Mack had job security because the BMDs loved him and he catered to them. He had job security because happy BMDs were easy for Dodds to deal with as AD and made his job easier. The BMDs hate Herman and CDC is probably wishing he had canned him 11 months ago. The support of Red and Jamail and Hicks and others was why Mack had his security even when he was getting mudholed by OU. Again he was also beating the crap out of most every other team on his schedule at the time. Herman is reviled by the BMDs and has been.....and he doesn't even have the ability to put on an entertaining blowout to teams that he should. C) This covid is a mulligan year is a bunch of crap. The BMDs are seeing other schools that are dealing with the same and in many cases worse shit from Covid and actually fielding a football team that looks like it has an idea of how you play the game of football. Then they see their team go out and look like they are the 3 stooges out there. BMDs have a lot of pride and they don't like being associated with this level of crap of a football team.

He's gotta beat that football Titan Baylor first.....lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Yeah if CDC expects season tickets to go up next year with Tom still here I am deeply disappointed in his intelligence level.

For the conversations on wins and losses.....I don't truly think it matters. Maybe I am wrong....but I think Tom is gone period. I think the powers that be are fed up with him and his act. I think the players have largely tuned him out. So even if the team somehow manages to finish with a winning record of some sort. It will be through games like TCU and OU and Tech, which lets all be honest, no one would consider to be playing good football. I think if the team was playing well and somehow we were getting "snakebit" kind of losses...it would be another matter. But I think the ugly ugly football and the incoming bad news in recruiting are going to see Tom out the door as much as his record will.

I am hopeful that Tom is indeed gone. Based largely off the reported dissatisfaction that the BMDs had with him last year that "supposedly" almost got him canned at the end of last season. If those reports were even in the same zip code as the truth I can't see them being any more forgiving for the current shit show that is even worse than it was a year ago.

And what crap the bed against the next bad team we play......

If he was a good coach, Texas has the talent to destroy Tech and absolutely beat TCU at home. My point is Herman isn't a good coach and thus we continue to underperforme..

So your argument is what? Tech is a great team with Bowman and we were awesome for coming back to beat them? Cause personally the opinion going into this season among Tech fans is they were going to be shit whether Bowman managed to play a full season or not. With Bowman(who BTW KSU was still defending way better than us when he was in) or without Bowman Tech is bad this year.