BurntEyes

Yeah, and it doesn't feed his ego either. Upon further review...

Do we know it didn't? Just asking as I've not see that either way. Though I didn't look very hard for info.

Yeah, it's entirely possible, though young, Hunter has a vision and is driving the action nearly as much, maybe even more than Deion. Thinking on Deion, I could see him becoming an NIL "agent" of sorts in a next step. Find extremely talented and motivated HS athletes and work a dual roll of agent and non-team trainer. His work at CU and professional career would support that resume wise.

There is a 3rd option if he's not a Kirk Bohls or @Beau Vine sock. He's a freelance writer who spent time in College Station and knows them from SC time. Is familiar with their "needs" and just feeds the roller-coaster, collects a paycheck and gets the "paper" a lot of clicks from here and aggie. It's a fucking really solid business plan and he's a fucking master at the game.

Wait a fucking minute.. is @Beau Vine Graham or is it.. Kirk fucking Bohls?!?!

Also Fair enough. I went full regard and it's clear OU has a great defense. It's well known and stated I have a propensity to go full regard and everyone knows I don't know shit about fuck. I am however, able to admit it and beg the forgiveness of all involved.

Please read carefully. The OU defense has faced 3 offenses with a pulse all year. Tulane, Tennessee and Texas. Tennessee was the only top 25 team they kept in check.

Fair enough. I went full regard and it's clear OU has a great defense. It's well known and stated I have a propensity to go full regard and everyone knows I don't know shit about fuck. I am however, able to admit it and beg the forgiveness of all involved.

It was a typo and that's all you have because the OU defense isn't good. Time will tell the story.

The OU defense has faced 3 offenses with a pulse all year. Tulane, Tennessee and Texas. Tennessee was the only top 25 team they kept in check. For 4 pages people have been arguing OUsux has a good defense. They don't.

OU Football schedule: Temple 124 FPI rank Temple 3 v OU 51 Houston 78 FPI rank Houston 12 v OU 16 Tulane 24 FPI rank Tulane 19 v OU 34 Tennessee 7 FPI Rank Tennessee 15 v OU 24 Auburn 34 FPI Rank Auburn 21 v OU 27 Texas # 1 FPI Rank Texas 34 v OU 3 Holding Tennessee to 15 points is good defense..... Never in my life did I think I'd be arguing with so many Longhorn fans who were complimenting OUsux defense as being good on a Longhorn board. Seems like there might be a hidden agenda I can't quite figure out.

All fine and dandy but they are 48 out of 133 in total defense. Don't go FULL Graham on me, you don't have the chops or street cred. If you call a D grade pretty good, well, you're bad at math or your verbiage sucks.

"Mike Tyson never had any quality competition. The heavy weight class was just terrible."

Gonna have to look at it... but i recollect it as a possibility. Let me get back to you if someone else doesn't prior. I won't make that one.. My time and money have limits. The NC game, should it happen, will put me at my limits.

There is no metric upon which Ou's defense is ranked 4th in the nation that I'm aware of currently. None, but show me data and change my mind. Talking heads say stupid shit. 48th of 133 isn't good by most measures and defintions. But that's semantics which I've covered. I've already agreed multiple times the OU D scheme was good. I don't disagree with your points on the difficulty reading coverages nor your broad assessment of Quinn. However, a Heisman level QB on an NC contender should not struggle with that difficulty for a quarter. Not sure what you're debating me about.

I actually booked a hotel room in Atlanta for both the SEC and National championship games. I've not done that since 2005 and Pasadena. This team has no glaring weaknesses. My primary concern is actually Sark's unwillingness to adjust his script in game to opponent schemes and UT player performance. So.. yeah but idiots are always going to idiot.

That's a shame.

I usually skip over a poster if I see 2 or 3 stupid posts in a row. I only went as long as I did on this one because you're usually very reasonable, a good poster, I like you and frankly I think you're a smoke show. 😘

Given Sarks propensity to be "right" particularly with his script... and that Quinn had been playing poorly to that point.. I agree. I think Sark's finger was on the trigger. Whether I think it should have been is a different discussion I'm sure we'll cover soon.

Okay, it's just semantics between us. I think they are very mediocre, not good and certainly not great. They're game plan WAS good, and for 1/4 Quinn floundered, BUT he was coming off a injury and error corrected. HOWEVER, it's not the first time. So, now I'm going in circles which means the world is back in balance and this has truly gone full internet sport board disagreement. Always super productive and valuable.

That's fine you want to enjoy it. It's also fine if some choose to critique it. Both are reasonable and logical choices based on yesterday's performance. I am curious of the faulty logic I bolded above in your statement. Are you accusing ME of faulty logic? Are you debating me on the quality of the defense we played? Are you arguing it is a good defense? If so please define good defense. NCAA Stats Before the game Ousux was ranked 43 after 48 out of 133 in that ranking system. That's below the top 30% or.. below a C average. AKA failing grade. Maybe that's good to you. Failing grades don't qualify in my world.

1) Nobody knows if he'll be better next week. 2) It's okay for fans to have opinions about the players performance that differ with your own. 3) Other than item 1 I don't really see any place where you and I largely disagree. Maybe I'm missing it.

Again, I agree with your point that Venables threw up a good game plan defensively, and is a good defensive coach. I don't disagree with your points on Ewer's NFL reaction to a single game. However, OU does NOT have a good defense. That was a center point of the first post I quoted. I've re-quoted it below. It's fine to make the other points but don't weaken you own point by using statements that aren't factually correct. Data is data and the data clearly indicates that OUsux defense is NOT good. It's going to look worse that 43 after our ass pounding of them is added to the data. The fact is Quinn had a really bad first quarter. He ended up having a decent game. There were issues with his performance and it wasn't against a good defense. It likely has very little effect on his NFL draft status unless it continues, but the fact is this isn't the first time it's happened. Yeah but what about this one bad game?!?!?!?! I don’t think NFL teams have ever drafted a QB who played poorly against a good defense before.

Defend Quinn if you like, I've no objections at all. However, Ousux is ranked 43 in the nation defensively with such stalwarts of defense like NIU, Duke, Rice and James Madison ahead of them as of Friday prior to the game. I won't argue semantics and perhaps our definition of good defense is different, but in MY definition of good defense, ousux does not fucking qualify.

I was never truly nervous, it never felt like the team was in trouble. To argue some sematics cause that better than the rest of this thread... Turf toe.. this game felt and literally had some bad turf toe going on. Literally in one or two instances. I was annoyed as shit for a good while. Then I relaxed and was no longer annoyed at all.