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ImissWallyPryor

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  1. 50 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

    First, hording would tighten up supply making everything more expensive.  Possibly out of the price range of a nutjob.  Second, a seller would be committing an illegal transaction when selling a weapon.  So right now, when they track this shooter's gun purchase, it traces back to the store, and the store has 0 liability.  One thing you will notice when mass shooting events occur is that every single time, investigators have no issue finding the point of sale or transfer that put the gun in the shooter's hands.  If these same mentally unstable individuals are forced to attempt a black market purchase, they'd be leading investigators right to the seller's door.  So the black market seller would be an accessory to mass murder once we change the law to put some liability on the seller.  This purchase is different than the typical black market gun purchase for intentional use.   A gang member isn't going to talk and isn't publishing twitter manifestos, and I don't think changes in the law will stop those targeted types of murder.  It will severely reduce the chance of random mass shooting events, however.

     

    Guns are not equivalent to drugs.  A drug addict is going to be a repeat customer.  Always going back to get a fix.  A mass shooter is a one time customer who will bring the police to the dealer's door.

    You’re right that guns aren’t drugs, and the black market wouldn’t be the same. My point wasn’t that it would be the same, just that it would exist. 

    I still think that once restrictions on gun sales reach a tipping point, there will be a black market for currently legal guns and accessories. There is already a black market for illegal weapons, ammunition, and explosives, and I think that market would explode (figuratively) if we outlawed items that people can now freely purchase simply because of the massive increase in the number of potential buyers. 

  2. 27 minutes ago, Constant said:

     

    That trend pretty much mirrors the proliferation of social media. 

    Speaking of which, my New Years Day resolutions are going to include spending less time on Surly...right after NSD. 

  3. 42 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

    Are we talking about right now when OTC sales and transfers are both legal?  Or are we talking about the future when they aren't?

    I do think a marine would have connections to obtain a weapon in that future environment.  I know guys like James Holmes wouldn't.  And I also think this marine's connections wouldn't sell or give him a weapon given his mental state.

    People that think some loner can just walk into the ghetto and buy a gun have never actually lived in or been to the ghetto.

    But if buying/selling guns suddenly became very difficult, the black market for guns would explode. I can’t think of another example, but maybe some posters will help me out. 

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  4. 1 hour ago, tjhooker said:

    I was saying political discussions should be in the CR threads because it will quickly turn this threads into a political CR debate shit show.  Not that this shouldn't be politically discussed.  

    But where can people-who-don’t-CR go to discuss these things in a more civil manner?

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  5. 1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

    Yes, because arming a server that deals with a rush of drunk people yelling their orders at them is a healthy environment to carry a firearm. 

    Fuck it.  Let's arm waiters, cashiers, or anyone in the service industry. MORE GUNS. 

     

    I’d bet mass murdering shooters (or in this case, armed robbers) would choose a different target. The argument that allowing bartenders to CC will lead to more shootings is lame because people are increasingly carrying in all sorts of places and situations that are stressful, yet CC Permit holders aren’t committing a bunch of spontaneous murders because they suddenly flip out. 

  6. 1 hour ago, landman said:

    I don't disagree with you, but the thing about nutjobs/criminals is they don't follow laws.  If they did then we wouldn't need to do background checks and be talking about banning certain types of guns or magazines.  They'll still find them/use them.  It's never going to end, unfortunately.  We are way too far gone, be it a lack of parenting, a lack of religion (cue the haters), a lack of respect for people/life, whatever way you want to look at it.  There is no fix.  Ban the large magazines, they'll use multiple small ones or come up with another way. 

    Add to the list of reasons is the instant notoriety these people get because of 24 hour cable news, the internet, and social media. We are all guilty of feeding the monster, otherwise we wouldn’t be on this thread or switching to Fox News or CNN. This has more to do with the increase in mass shootings over the same span of time when murder rates have dropped than does the availability of high capacity magazines. If it’s not for plain notoriety, these sick fucks sure have seen how they can spread their anger against a world they hate. 

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  7. 1 hour ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:


    Abusive coach situation. Did stuff like make injured players do push-ups until they vomited. Forbade certain players to talk to each other. Kicked one girl off the team right after a road game and had the team bus leave her at the stadium. No scissoring involved.

    Isn’t lacrosse French for scissors?

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  8. On 11/1/2018 at 7:54 PM, TexasBeta said:

    Forgot the best one... at least for me. Talked to George Jones after a concert he had here at Riverbend Church. I don’t really remember what I said. I was dumbstruck.

     

     

    Ran into Ronny Milsap on campus as he was going to film Austin City Limits.

     

     

    I’m not sure if I posted this, but I served drinks to George Jones in 1980 when I was a bartender at the Silver Dollar South.

    He was unable to take the stage for an prior booking because a bartender served him three too many. By that time, my usual bar was the one next to the stage. I got to meet several big name performers at that job, but The Possum was my favorite.

    Jones hit my bar between sets, and he started slamming whiskey shots. I knew I had to slow him down, so I struck up a conversation that I steered into him offering me life advice. He got weepy talking about Tammy, and told me to stay at UT and not try to chase fame because life is lonely on the road. Lulz because I had no talents that would have me chasing fame.

    The weird thing is that people generally didn’t bother the performers when they were getting drinks at my bar. There was one pretty boy (can’t recall his name) who attracted a small crowd, but that was an exception.

    After the last set, he asked me to join him and his band and crew for late night eats at Sambo’s in Sunset Valley (now Kerbey Lane). I had to decline because none of the other asshole bartenders would take over my bar and close it for me. 

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  9. 9 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

    There were like 3 dudes in front of him. I saw one crash but what happened to the others? 

    He passed them on the climbing sections. I’m not going back to find the minute mark though. I hit the skip ahead 15 secs about 100 times. 

  10. 1 hour ago, MissingInAction said:

    Take the Horns down pussies.

    Jfc what kind of safe space triggered sandy vag cunts have we become if this is even a discussion?

    Oh boo fucking hoo the opposing team/fan did something that upsets me oh boo fuck me i am such a god dam bitch ass cunt... fuck

    It bothers me not one bit. It’s like the old saying about not worrying about what people are saying about you, as long as they’re talking about you. The casual observer sees the WVU player doing that and they’re still thinking Texas instead of WVU.  How else does every fan base know that this Horns down think even exists?

    Not only does it not bother me, I kind of like it... fuck ‘em. 

  11. 7 hours ago, mulletpelini said:

    Are you a dumbass? I specifically described horns up in a fans/players face you fuckstick read the fucking quote.  Doesn't matter if its your fucking hand sign or not, you do it in someones face it's taunting.  Reading comprehension how does it work.  

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