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  1. Look dude, what I think doesn't matter. The fact is that almost all teams played the pass first and you can tell that through film and alignment. Obviously Arch is superior at throwing the deep ball, but Quinn was superior at throwing everything else. You don't have to throw the deep ball well for teams to be scared of your passing game. If you are good hitting the crossing routes and such on the move teams will still keep their safeties deep for fear a well thrown crosser will get housed. You have to have layers to your defense. Georgia got a little to aggressive in the SEC championship and walked a safety down. Quinn pulled the RPO and threw a perfect ball that Dmo didn't have to break stride for and Dmo housed it. SEC Championship Game || Texas vs Georgia.mp4 Currently, everytime Arch plays good man teams he struggles because throwing with good timing and anticipation is his shortcoming. For examples, the ball that got batted away from Parker vs aggy was an out route that was thrown so late that Parker had to stop on the sideline to prevent from going OB. That allowed for the DB to recover and break it up. Throw it on the break that doesn't happen. Same with the interception vs Ohio State. Wingo runs an out route and instead of the ball being there on the break, Arch throws it when he is open. That allows the DB to undercut the route and pick it off. And that's okay because Arch Manning is still growing and isn't a finished product. He will get better at trusting what he is seeing and not waiting to see it, and when that happens he will be the best QB in the country. Look, both guys have their pluses and minuses, but that's not why they are losing games. They are losing games because everytime we get in a dog fight with a blue blood we lose the trench play contest. I don't care whether it is this year or last year they look exactly the same vs quality fronts. Shitty. Ohio State last year- 21 to 14 down the stretch. Quarterback play is roughly a wash. Difference in the game is they popped a big run for a TD just before halftime and we couldn't run the ball. We couldn't get a hand on their QB hardly all game and then with the game on the line our RT completely whiffs on his pass pro. Game over. This year vs Georgia they bottle up our run game without doing shit special and spy Arch, who runs 5 times for zero yards. Meanwhile Gunnar Stockton is back there behind his line doing whatever the fuck he wants. They run for 128 yards. Stockton is back there all day patting the football to the tune of 4 TD passes and 1 running. Stockton ain't better than Arch but his line is. The common theme is shitty line play in big games. So can we stop shitting on the QBs because they ain't the problem. Last year's Georgia team would've done the same thing they did to him this year. Until we improve our line play we will keep coming up short in these games. Even VY had a great O-line. The O-line was ultimately the reason Colt lost in 09 too. Texas has to start getting better linemen. We haven't had a truly good line since 2006. It's embarrassing at this point. Throw the whole safe at a line.
  2. You are just saying shit that is flat wrong at this point. Most defenses were terrified of our passing attack last year and played us with light boxes not loaded ones. You can literally see on film us in 12 personnel with opposing defenses with 2 to 3 safeties 12 yards off the ball. Only a few teams were brave enough to walk an extra man down. Georgia was one of them, and even they sprinkled it in. ASU got aggressive and they paid for it.
  3. No. I am saying no one was winning those games until we got better trench play. We've been inferior in the trenches this whole time. People like Derka are saying that Arch would change that.
  4. Shut the fuck up talking to me. I responded to a question I was asked.
  5. Huh? I didn't say this year is better. I said last year wasn't great. I'm not afraid to give my opinion. A great O-line is one that holds up in against top flight competition in some aspect of the game. When we were playing against the Ohio State's and Georgia's of the world we couldn't run or pass pro. Let's all remember that Arch stepped in vs Georgia and got his head taken off too behind that line last year, despite him being markedly better than Ewers at evading the rush. Man for man we looked the part size wise. Our line of scrimmage play is exactly why we keep losing those games. We were inferior in the trenches vs Georgia and Ohio State, and that's what wins football games. When Michigan won they were superior in the trenches too. Only on this board do we not understand that and have people blaming the quarterback when it has shit to do with that. We also lost to Washington because we didn't have a pass rush and couldn't get to Penix. The next week Michigan was all over his ass and he put up 13 points. We lost the LOS play in that one too.
  6. Texas was weak at the LG/C last year. Thats why we couldn't run inside. You are correct that the RG was great in pass pro, but that is only 50% of his job. Lacking in that other 50% is how a guy 6'6 and 315 gets drafted in the 6th round. Cam Williams was the opposite problem. Good at the run but constantly busting protections and maybe the most penalized person in college football. Which is why for all his measurables he also got drafted in the 6th round. Late rounds is the NFL saying you have some physical shortcomings or you are a project player. The only player good at both on our line last year was Banks. The LG and C couldn't make hay in the run game and the RG and RT weren't great at pass pro. So no matter what you called you always had a liability somewhere. Couple that with Sark thinking it was a good idea to have TEs blocking DEs in pass pro because 12 personnel, and all the slow developing plays. You know, like trying to fake a double screen and throw downfield in the SEC championship vs Georgia. Anyone remember that one?
  7. Teams figured out how to exploit us in our base Cover 3/1 look. Week after week they were attacking specific people. Taafe was one of those. Taafe is best when he can roam and help. He is not a coverage guy, and teams were finding a way to exploit that. So we ran a lot of two high against aggy and even some quarters. Taafe was back to being free and you see the result. 2/man lets you walk up and be aggressive. What's cool to see is a young guy like 6 thinking outside the box. On his pick he had no responsibility so he jumped the route next to him. That's stuff Georgia does. Good shit!
  8. Maybe you've figured it out by now, but I get frustrated with you because periodically you spout wild theories based on zero football logic. Every linemen we had last year could've won every award there is to win. It wouldn't change the fact that we couldn't run the football versus quality fronts. When Sark was at Bama he ran Inside Zone? Why? Because you can run more stuff off of it like play action and RPOs. When he got here we tried to run it and the only reason it worked is because Bijan can get his own yards. However, it became pretty clear, especially once we got to the SEC, that we couldn't block worth a shit in the interior. So we changed to being Outside Zone based. Why? Because Outside Zone is the Tai Chi of running philosophies. You don't have to be strong to be good at it. You are just using the defender's momentum against him. However, when you play a fast disciplined front, they beat your linemen to all their spots, and that's why we cannot run on Georgia, Ohio State, or even ASU. Oklahoma and Aggy have talent on their fronts but no discipline. They jump around in gaps and end up leaving alleys for a guy like Wisner to take advantage of. I asked you why we couldn't run to see what your answer would be. I am surprised you didn't blame the quarterback. My irritation with your comment comes because we literally just saw a couple weeks ago what Arch would look like behind a line that couldn't run the football and had a bunch of penalties, and still you claim Arch would've won those games last year when he was literally just facing the same situation two weeks ago and we scored 10 points. Here are the 3rd down yardages Quinn saw in the SEC Championship game. Also 11 penalties for 94 yards. 5 drops too. 3rd and 4 3rd and 9 3rd and 14 3rd and 27 3rd and 14 3rd and 5 3rd and 26 3rd and 5 3rd and 4 3rd and 22 3rd and 15 3rd and 10 3rd and 3 3rd and 17 3rd and 3 3rd and 15 3rd and 5 3rd and 10 Only 7 out of 18 times were we in a realistic down and distance. Arch wasn't winning with that. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
  9. It's not about whether or not YOU or I think it was better. It's about it could not run the football vs good fronts all last year, and therefore wouldn't have offered Arch anything different to win those games vs Georgia twice or Ohio State. Arch still would've been in 3rd and long just like he was this year. Nothing would've changed. That line would've offered the same shit sandwich that this line did. You seeing what I am saying yet?
  10. How would Arch change anything about why we couldn't run the football? They spied Arch this year and he ran 5 times for 0 yards.
  11. No one has answered the question Derka. The reason we couldn't run the football is because we were extremely weak at the same two positions we are weak at now. C/RG. So we couldn't get a push up the middle vs solid fronts. Because of that Sark switched our base run to Outside Zone. But you can't run sideways against fast fronts. I said that to say this. If we had the same struggles last year running the football vs the Georgia's of the world as we did this year how do you suppose Arch would do anything different than what happened this year with the same exact problem? Explain to me how he would magically fix that and have us beating Georgia and Ohio State?
  12. You are basing your evidence on opinion. I am basing my evidence on the CONSISTENT inability to run the football vs quality fronts. That's not dishonest. I would toss in the pass pro breaking down in those same games but you would just blame that on the QB. So we can keep it to running for now.
  13. You know how these things work, right? The year prior you are on the watchlist for awards due to expectations. We came from the Big12 to the SEC. Obviously a huge difference in line play, but we were already on the watchlist. The measure of a good line is being able to run the football, right? So why couldn't we run the football against those teams? Why aren't you answering such a simple question?
  14. I'm asking a simple question of why we couldn't run the football in the 4 most important games we played last year. Michigan rushed for 172 yards on Ohio State right before we played them. Still waiting on an answer.
  15. No one is willing to answer the question?
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