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  1. I used to think you might have played football. You seem to not know what a 50/50 ball is or as the young kids call it "getting Moss'ed". You will be the only person in this thread arguing that Wingo has lived up to his billing. He drops a ton of balls and gets physically manhandled by SEC defensive backs on the regular. A 50/50 ball is a ball where you and the DB both have equal chances at it.
  2. "allowed'? Is Simms not allowed to come back or does he not come back because of how he was treated? When he is off this team and drafted we will revisit this topic. I swore to people not to speak about specifics on it but trust me when I tell you the dude can't wait to get out of here. Look at the question from the press as reason 1000 for it. I think any quarterback on our roster is going to have better passing numbers next year IF Golden comes back. If not and it could be an adventure. I simply think it's stupid to have a hypothetical question like that when we have seen both quarterbacks play this very year. "let's not compare this year when both QBs are playing with the same personnel. Instead, let's compare stats from different years when one of the QBs is gone". What kind of sense does that make. Right now we have one reliable receiver. One. Anyone arguing against that is an idiot. Sark will address this in the portal, plus we are bringing in some recruits that can help.
  3. Sark has had a 1000 yard rusher every year he has called an offense in college. What do you mean it's not a pro style run based offense? Washington............. 2009-1668 2010-2238 2011-2006 2012-1851 2013-3107 USC..................... 2014-2466 2015-2758 Bama................. 2019-2191 2020-2385 Texas................. 2021-2604 2022-2705 2023-2919 2024-2770 You guys just make up things in your head and just spit them out there as fact. This is most def a pro style offense. The constant use of pro style sets and TEs should tell you that. Sark has always been about running the football. This year we are down in both rushing AND passing. Why? Because there was a dropoff in talent at the skill positions. Big time. Last year we had 3 NFL receivers, a NFL TE, a NFL RB slasher who could make his on yards, and a 220lb 5 star back that was a punishing runner. It's weird that you guys expect the same production from a less talented group. It's also weird that you ignore obvious things like the offense was clicking prior to bond going out. Arch will get his shot next year to show what he's got. However, using the stretch of games he played in as evidence he is better is like the posters who were pointing to Murph's starts as why he should play over Quinn.
  4. Who is the pussy on the internet whining about their CFP QB getting to play in front of their fanboy crush because they love his last name? It's a dumb question because we will be a totally different offense next year. We are adding more receivers. Getting our 5 star RB back. We should be a better offense as a whole no matter who the quarterback is.
  5. We have evidence from this very year so why are we talking about next year when Quinn is no longer here? We have kids coming in and people who got hurt coming back. What do you mean no upgrade at WR or RB? Baxter isn't an upgrade? Again, at no point has Arch looked better than Quinn against like comp.
  6. Here is what I know. We can look at THIS year, you know, when both QBs have the benefit of playing with the same players. We saw Arch in 3 outings. 2 against terrible opponents. 1 against Georgia. Arch threw for 325 and 2TDs vs MSU. Quinn threw for 333 and 5 TDs in roughly 3 qtrs. He could've thrown for 400. At no time this year has Arch looked better than Quinn when playing comparable teams. Next year Arch could throw for more than Quinn but it will be a completely different team.
  7. Sorry I was away. Dad duties and such. You guys fail to understand how offenses work. Fantasy football has ruined people's idea of quarterbacking. We are a pro-style, back control offense. When things are working well we are never going to throw it a lot because we prefer to run the ball. When things aren't working right we are dropping back in long yardage situations. This isn't a 5-wide, throw it all over the place offense. Quit trying to judge it that way. Whoever said this offense is not complicated has no idea what they are talking about. It is a lot harder to throw the football with less receivers because the windows get tighter and the reads get harder. That's why completion percentages went through the roof when spread offenses were at their peak. Teams were spreading people out and taking the easy completion. That's what Colt was doing. You judge a QB by their ability to read and deliver the ball and how many throws they have in their bag. Yards and such and every Tech QB would've got drafted.
  8. Yeah but Fisher was the worst of the NFL norms of the time. Dude made every QB look pedestrian, even his good ones. He also never wanted to spend money on offensive players. I cannot remember a single receiver that VY played with there. I think they were all JAGs.
  9. That throw is why "throwing the ball on a rope" isn't always encouraged. Some air under the ball and it's a catch.
  10. See this is the mentality I am talking about. Quinn cost us the Washington game? Yeah they should've connected on that last pass but our defense let a QB throw for 430 yards without nary a sack but the QB cost us the game? How did that same QB look against a competent defense the next game? 255yrds 1TD 2INTs and 13 points. Same situation in the 2nd Georgia game. Dude threw for 358. If the people around him just did their jobs at a satisfactory level the game wouldn't even be close. Commit half the penalties. Don't drop TD passes. Don't let a team who can barely throw maul you all second half in the run game. Kick a fucking field goal. In order for a QB to perform miracles the receivers have to equally be up to the task too. The O-line too. We couldn't get a finger on Klubnik for seemingly the entire second half. Dude just stood back there patting the football for what seemed like for a week. Had we lost that game we would be here talking about Quinn instead of how the defense folded. Catch the fucking ball with your hands Moore and Bond. Quit trying to basket-catch everything. While y'all are at it block. The next 50/50 ball Wingo wins will be the first one he has won in his college career. If I told you a team played Georgia and had 11 penalties, a dropped TD pass, and two missed field goals you would tell me that team lost.
  11. You mean how Quinn threw for over 300 yards and came up just short vs Georgia? Did you see Clemson receivers dropping passes? Did you see Clemson players getting called for 11 penalties? That's exactly what I mean when I say regurgitating the same talking points. Cade put the ball in the air. Some good. Some meh. Some great. The guy on the other end has to make a play. If you watched in the Georgia game no way you come away with Quinn being the issue. Also, the whole replace Quinn with Cade thing is dumb because Cade scored 3 points vs Georgia.
  12. The talking heads don't watch games. They just regurgitate the same talking point without watching the full games. If they watched the last Georgia game no way they think "Quinn is holding this offense back" when the offense ran for 31 yards and had a ton of penalties.
  13. Klubnik outplayed him how? He did what he was asked to do and played a clean game. Klubnik was asked to throw it more times. That is it.
  14. I've seen the tackle called for holding for running the rusher to the ground and both falling.
  15. All of us have watched enough football to have seen that called had Guilbeau just turned the corner a little more.
  16. Thanks for hopping in and commenting. We need more threads like this if you ask me. We have a lot of people here who see football from different perspectives depending on where their experience lies and it makes for good discussion.
  17. Watch Burke's hands and watch Simmons' hands. I would be embarrassed if a true freshman had better hands than me. With any decent hand work at all Burke would be in Klubnik's face. A little bit of effort would affect this throw and they likely don't complete it. Burke should be better than this by now. You are right about Simmons getting manhandled as well.
  18. And that's why in my post I questioned whether they were supposed to switch the routes if they crossed. That would be ideal and how high level defensive schemes deal with these man beaters by pattern matching. Either way Guilbeau is a liability. Bad technique is one thing. A general lack of effort is another. He is also awful at blitzing yet we keep firing him. Ugh.
  19. If you really wanna get pissed off about pass defense watch us vs Washington from the all 22. Penix could sit down and eat lunch back there. Rushers falling face first on the ground and getting back up and he still hadn't thrown the ball yet. Ugh.
  20. Guilbeau has bad eye discipline and situational awareness. Manny hasn't really been tested because most teams don't have time to stand back and let routes develop down the field in long yardage situations. With them catching us with run stoppers on the field and not letting us sub you have to be more cautious as a DB and not jump on all the short stuff like you usually can because you know the ball has to come out. That's really all Manny was guilty of. These guys develop a clock in their heads and know when the ball should be out. Georgia is the same way. Their DBs are jumping short routes in long yardage situations because they know the QB cannot hold the ball.
  21. We aren't Alabama. There aren't 5 stars everywhere. The only 5 stars are the QB, a receiver that has been largely a disappointment to this point, and a couple linemen. Bama was better than you at every single position on both sides of the ball.
  22. Who is insulting Arch. I am calling it how it is. Listen to you all. Dude is in the quarters of the CFP and y'all are ready to jettison this dude into the sun no matter the outcome of this season because you think the guy behind him is better than he is with no proof of that other than two games vs the two worst opponents on our schedule. Colt threw 18 interceptions in 2007 and hadn't done anything great up until then. Ewers threw 6 picks last year, won the big 12, got us into the CFP, and almost the championship game despite us letting the opposing QB throw for 430 yards on us. It's one thing to not be good. Players know when they can't play and accept their lot in life for the most part. But to already be the 3rd in almost every category. To have taken your school to two straight conference championship games, and two straight CFPs? That's a shit sandwich for someone who has helped get us back on the mountain top. In my lifetime the most hated QBs on the 40 were Simms, Ewers, and Gilbert in that order. One of these things is not like the other. Ewers is 2-1 vs OU. He threw for 452 and and 358 in his two conference championship appearances. Even last year in the CFP game. He didn't hit the last throw but dude threw for 318 and no picks. Win at a high rate. Beat OU. Get us to conference championships. Ewers has done all three and we still dislike him.
  23. He may be he may not. Kevin Jennings was a gamer until Saturday. You don't know a kid is a gamer until they face live bullets. The only sure thing was Vincent Paul Young Jr. There was no doubt he was going to wreck shop when he got to college. An absolute freak of nature.
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