Lagunamadre

Sure Donny, go ahead and give ol' Nancy a call and see if she will support your bill to regulate twitter. I'm sure she will get right on that for you.

You asked a question. I answered it. It is a crime. It even has a code. You might not care about it, but it's a crime. Now point to the criminal code of the "crime" of Obama waiting to sanction the Russians.

1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953

Does this mean I have to wear a mask when I masturbate now? This could get awkward.

Paige was never indicted. I doubt the public is going to find it earth shattering that a FISA was granted to listen to a guy who is a self-proclaimed "informal advisor to the Kremlin", while the Kremlin was engaged in digital warfare against the US.

I thought Barr has determined that this is no longer a crime?

I never would have thought at the beginning of this whole alternate reality that Cohen would become the only sympathetic character in Trump's orbit.

Word on the street is that EnCap shut downt their Dallas office (thanks Southland Royalty) and KA is giving a pretty big haircut to the Houston office. Anybody have any better info?

So why no indictments? What is Barr waiting on if there is already enough evidence to present to a grand jury? Not being snarky, honest question. Is this the only crime uncovered so far? A lawyer in the FBI altering three words in an email? Not saying it wasn't wrong, but not quite earth shattering.

Interesting, I never got that far in the weeds. That dude fucked up for sure but seems very unlikely that would be a crime. Possibly a violation of FBI procedure, but that would be a hard to indict on. For those that didn't get down to pg. 247. They cover email and IM exchanges between FBI agents, an FBI lawyer, and a rep from an unnamed agency, probably CIA. The FBI lawyer asks the other agency if Page was a source because they would need to include that in the FISA application. The other agency says they sent stuff about Page to them already and that he was likely a "digraph", meaning that he had interacted with the other agencies source but was not a source himself but he could be a sub-source, a source to the source. The FBI attorney eventually forwards an email exchange that includes the original email and he inserts after "digraph" - "Not a source" . The FBI agents use that as reasoning not to include that Page was a source/sub-source in a footnote in the FISA. So the crime would be the lawyer inserting his own color on the forwarded email without letting the recipient know it was his own commentary. The commentary wasn't necessarily incorrect either, as Paige was not a source to the other agency, rather a source to their source. Any Shaggy lawyers want to weigh in on this. Thank you for pointing out the page Anastasis, much appreciated.

You and I are in agreement that anybody who leaks classified information (or commits any crime) should be punished, whether it be Susan Rice or Devin Nunes. I'll take Ignatius's word for it if he broke the story.

That is not WaPo, that is an opinion piece by a conservative political pundit who has no idea where that info came from. A little advice going forward in life, when you get to the part of a paper or a website that is entitled "opinion", the views you read there are not those of the paper nor are they fact checked or vetted, they are opinions, not unlike what we post here. Here is the article that you didn't link for reference......https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/14/someone-committed-crime-michael-flynn-case-it-wasnt-him/

Here is a 568 page review of the Midyear Exam investigation, if you are interested. https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

I just re-read the executive summary of the Horowitz and must have missed that part. The Page FISA applications were certainly sloppy and there were omissions, over-statements and mis-communications between departments and agencies, but I didn't see anything about falsifying content. Horowitz called them "errors and omissions", but did not identify any crimes. "We concluded that the failures described above and in this report represent serious performance failures by the supervisory and non-supervisory agents with responsibility over the FISA applications. These failures prevented OI from fully performing its gatekeeper function and deprived the decision makers the opportunity to make fully informed decisions. Although some of the factual misstatements and omissions we found in this review were arguably more significant than others, we believe that all of them taken together resulted in FISA applications that made it appear that the information supporting probable cause was stronger than was actually the case."

I completely agree with that. And you are correct. Not an insignificant chance the leaker in this case speaks Russian.

What crime or violation have they uncovered? No speculation please. Actual crime.

I mean Russia did interfere in our election right? And Mueller report uncovered 272 contacts and 32 meetings between Russian agents and Trump's circle during that period. I'd venture to guess that is more than they had with any other country, by far. Mueller did not find a smoking (smocking) gun to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that certain individuals committed conspiracy, but he found a shit ton of collusion, which is not a crime. The revisionist history here is incredible. There was more than ample evidence to open an investigation absent the dossier. And after Trumps boys in the DOJ/NSA have poked through every single document all they can turn up is the equivalent that somebody forgot to put a cover on their TPS report.

Somebody probably needs to explain to him what a "leak" is.

Welp, it was a nice run. Guess it had to come to an end at some point.

That's what I was trying to say, but you said it better.

They need to recalibrate their expectations and try to move incrementally. You can't just ban private insurance, ban fracking, implement static wealth taxes etc. without massive negative disruptions to daily life. I think the average american and average democrat realizes that and roll their eyes at the AOC's of the world who don't invest the critical thought to realize the negative side-effects of their proposals. While their goals are commendable, they have failed to come up with a realistic pathway to get there, work on that path and get back to us in 4 years, until then most Americans aren't going to jump when they have no idea where they will land.

Somebody has had a tough week and needs his ass kissed extra hard this weekend.

A brand new golf cart costs $8K. The secret service could buy 22 golf carts with the amount they are spending to rent carts for a long weekend.

Jesus christ. "You see Obama's plan was just a packet of paper and it sucked. Our plan, as you can see here, is in a binder, so it's much better. See guys, I'm not lying to you, here is their packet, NO BINDER, and our packet, BINDER. So we have obviously been working hard. We have even purchased two 3-hole punches for the white house."