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  1. 5 hours ago, 1978horn said:

    I think you told us how it was weighted on the old site. Can you go over that again here?

    There are two different weighting factor breakdowns depending on if the school is using baseball or hockey (if neither sport has scored for them then they default to the hockey table).

    Both breakdowns are based on an initial weighting of Football 50, Basketball 30, Baseball/Hockey 20. Then those are adjusted by the number of teams that have earned at least one point in the sport in NCAA history. The more unique schools that have earned a point, the more competitive the sport is assumed to be. Right now the two breakdowns are:

    Football 41.8
    Basketball 37
    Baseball 21.2

    or

    Football 49.9
    Basketball 44.2
    Hockey 13.2

  2. Jesus H. Christ on a cracker. It was the right fielder's responsibility 100%. Stop trying to convince yourselves of anything else. He had the best angle, he could have gotten there, and he is an outfielder coming in towards a ball versus infielders going out. Right fielder's fault. I don't care if the second baseman was literally on fire, pointing a gun at him, and screaming to get away because it was his ball. The right fielder would STILL have priority to catch that ball and he absolutely should have called everyone else off.

     

    And the fact that the second baseman was on a dead sprint makes it MORE the right fielder's fault, not less. As an outfielder, if you see that happening out of the corner of your eye, then you know it's an even more difficult catch than usual for the infielder. So you have even more of a reason to call him off.

     

     

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  3. 2 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

    He’s probably too old now but Fox should have swooped in and hired Ron Franklin after ESPN fired him. 

    Franklin was an all time great but he was losing it pretty badly at the end.

  4. 57 minutes ago, Big Frog II said:

    Why include hockey when so few schools play it?  

    It is weighted much lower for precisely that reason. The reason it's included at all is that it's much more important for midwestern schools than baseball, primarily due to weather. So each team gets point for either hockey or baseball, whichever is better for them.

  5. Ha, yeah, I see a bunch of message board posters and journalists wanting to clarify the exact technical language behind the option. Like it fucking matters.

    Here's your option year, are you playing in Cleveland next year according to this option year? Yes or no? Who gives a shit whether it's an opt-in or an opt-out?

  6. On 6/27/2018 at 1:22 PM, d2o said:

    Winning with the Clips would do far more for his legacy than winning with the Lakers would IMO.    The Clips do have Jerry West running things now but they have NOTHING I could imagine Lebron would want to play with.   Unless he could convince Kawhi and/or PG to give up their Laker love and roll with the Clips I can't see it happening.   Even then it would take smoe massive movement to make it happen.

    I've said from the start his best move was staying with CLE and getting guys to come play with him there and I still think that is what happens ultimately.

    I don't follow NBA financials enough to know if it's even possible, but yes, winning with the Clippers would be a legacy-securing accomplishment. If James could convince enough guys to join him on the Clippers to where they won a title? Holy shit.

    As for being at the Wilt Chamberlain level in a team's pantheon, well Chamberlain is the greatest player of all time so I guess it wouldn't be all that bad.

  7. On the old board I started a thread about how the Power 5 schools have performed in the Big 3 sports (football, basketball, baseball). It morphed into a list of all schools who have made the Top 4/CFP, Final Four, CWS Semifinals, and Frozen Four. I then weighted it by importance and competitive balance. Here's the updated list now that this school year is complete:

    ALL SCHOOLS

     
    1. Oklahoma - 12.83 (24.75 Football, 5 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    2. Texas - 12.70 (14 Football, 3 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 27 Baseball)
    3. Ohio State - 12.69 (20.5 Football, 10 Basketball, 2 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    4. Michigan - 12.32 (11 Football, 8 Basketball, 25 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    5. Southern Cal - 11.77 (17.25 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 18 Baseball)
    6. Notre Dame - 10.70 (19.5 Football, 1 Basketball, 4 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    7. Alabama - 10.04 (22.5 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    8. Michigan State - 9.92 (9 Football, 9 Basketball, 11 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    9. North Carolina - 9.08 (1.5 Football, 20 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 5 Baseball)
    10. UCLA - 8.75 (4 Football, 18 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    11. Florida State - 7.92 (14.5 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 7 Baseball)
    12. LSU - 7.16 (8 Football, 4 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 11 Baseball)
    13. Miami (FL) - 7.15 (11 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 12 Baseball)
    14. Duke - 6.75 (2 Football, 16 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    15. Florida - 6.47 (7.5 Football, 5 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 7 Baseball)
    16. Kentucky - 6.28 (0 Football, 17 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    17. Penn State - 5.81 (11.5 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    18. Tennessee - 5.65 (12 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    19. Kansas - 5.55 (0 Football, 15 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    20. Oklahoma State - 5.40 (1 Football, 6 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 13 Baseball)
    21. Minnesota - 5.21 (4 Football, 1 Basketball, 21 Hockey, 4 Baseball)
    22. Georgia - 5.19 (10 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    23. Nebraska - 4.81 (11.5 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    24. Arkansas - 4.74 (3.5 Football, 6 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 5 Baseball)
    25. Wisconsin - 4.72 (3 Football, 4 Basketball, 11 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    26. Arizona State - 4.66 (2.5 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 17 Baseball)
    27. Arizona - 4.02 (1 Football, 4 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 10 Baseball)
    28. Stanford - 3.91 (2 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 11 Baseball)
    29. Indiana - 3.58 (1.5 Football, 8 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    30. Boston College - 3.55 (0.5 Football, 0 Basketball, 25 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    31. Syracuse - 3.27 (2 Football, 6 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    32. California - 3.21 (3.5 Football, 3 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    33. Louisville - 2.96 (0 Football, 8 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    34. Auburn - 2.93 (6.5 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    35t. Boston U. - 2.90 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 22 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    35t. North Dakota - 2.90 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 22 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    37. Pittsburgh - 2.88 (6 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    38. Oregon - 2.83 (5 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    39. Illinois - 2.68 (2 Football, 5 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    40. South Carolina - 2.49 (1 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 8 Baseball)
    41. Houston - 2.48 (1 Football, 5 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    42. Colorado - 2.41 (4 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    43. Iowa - 2.36 (3 Football, 3 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    44. Utah - 2.32 (1.5 Football, 4 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    45. Clemson - 2.31 (4 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    46. Army - 2.30 (5.5 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    47t. Cincinnati - 2.22 (0 Football, 6 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    47t. Villanova - 2.22 (0 Football, 6 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    49. Georgia Tech - 2.21 (3 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    50. Cal State-Fullerton - 2.12 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 10 Baseball)
    51. Washington - 2.04 (4 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    52. Oregon State - 2.01 (0.5 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 5 Baseball)
    53. Maryland - 1.99 (3 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    54. Denver - 1.98 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 15 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    55. Navy - 1.88 (4.5 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    56t. Connecticut - 1.85 (0 Football, 5 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    56t. Georgetown - 1.85 (0 Football, 5 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    58. Wichita State - 1.80 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 5 Baseball)
    59. Harvard - 1.72 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 13 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    60. TCU - 1.69 (2 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 4 Baseball)
    61. Mississippi - 1.68 (3 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    62. Cornell - 1.56 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 8 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    63. Missouri - 1.48 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 5 Baseball)
    64t. Kansas State - 1.48 (0 Football, 4 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    64t. Nevada-Las Vegas - 1.48 (0 Football, 4 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    66. Maine - 1.45 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 11 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    67t. Dartmouth - 1.41 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 4 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    67t. Providence - 1.41 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 4 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    69t. St. John's - 1.38 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    69t. Virginia - 1.38 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    71. North Carolina State - 1.32 (0 Football, 3 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    72t. Colorado College - 1.32 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 10 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    72t. Michigan Tech - 1.32 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 10 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    74. SMU - 1.21 (2 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    75. St. Lawrence - 1.19 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 9 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    76t. Baylor - 1.16 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    76t. Holy Cross - 1.16 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    76t. NYU - 1.16 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    79t. Marquette - 1.11 (0 Football, 3 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    79t. Memphis - 1.11 (0 Football, 3 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    79t. San Francisco - 1.11 (0 Football, 3 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    82. Mississippi State - 1.01 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    83t. Bradley - 0.95 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    83t. Temple - 0.95 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    85t. Clarkson - 0.92 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 7 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    85t. New Hampshire - 0.92 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 7 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    87. Southern Illinois - 0.85 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 4 Baseball)
    88. Tulsa - 0.84 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    89t. Wake Forest - 0.79 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    89t. Washington State - 0.79 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    91. Minnesota-Duluth - 0.79 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 6 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    92t. Butler - 0.74 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    92t. CCNY - 0.74 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    92t. DePaul - 0.74 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    92t. La Salle - 0.74 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    92t. Purdue - 0.74 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    92t. West Virginia - 0.74 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    92t. Loyola-Chicago - 0.74 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    99. RPI - 0.66 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 5 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    100t. Rice - 0.64 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    100t. Vanderbilt - 0.64 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    100t. Western Michigan - 0.64 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    103t. Iowa State - 0.58 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    103t. Rutgers - 0.58 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    103t. Santa Clara - 0.58 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    106. Lake Superior State - 0.53 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 4 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    107t. Fresno State - 0.42 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    107t. Lafayette - 0.42 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    107t. Long Beach State - 0.42 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    107t. Pepperdine - 0.42 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    107t. Yale - 0.42 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 2 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    112t. Boise State - 0.42 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    112t. Brigham Young - 0.42 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    112t. Fordham - 0.42 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    112t. Iowa Preflight - 0.42 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    112t. Randolph Field - 0.42 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    112t. Texas A&M - 0.42 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    112t. Virginia Tech - 0.42 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    119t. Brown - 0.40 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 3 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    119t. Northern Michigan - 0.40 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 3 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Charlotte - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Dayton - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Drake - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Duquesne - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. George Mason - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Gonzaga - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Indiana State - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Jacksonville - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Massachusetts - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. New Mexico State - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Pennsylvania - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Princeton - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Seattle - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Seton Hall - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. St. Bonaventure - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. UTEP - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Virginia Commonwealth - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Western Kentucky - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    121t. Wyoming - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    140t. Bowling Green - 0.26 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 2 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    140t. Miami (OH) - 0.26 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 2 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    140t. Quinnipiac - 0.26 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 2 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    140t. Union - 0.26 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 2 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    140t. Vermont - 0.26 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 2 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    145t. Cal State-Los Angeles - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    145t. California-Irvine - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    145t. Coastal Carolina - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    145t. Creighton - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    145t. Eastern Michigan - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    145t. Hawaii - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    145t. Louisiana-Lafayette - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    145t. Ohio - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    145t. Rollins - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    145t. Saint Louis - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    145t. Texas-Pan American - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    156t. Bemidji State - 0.13 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 1 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    156t. Colgate - 0.13 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 1 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    156t. Ferris State - 0.13 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 1 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    156t. Massachusetts-Lowell - 0.13 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 1 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    156t. Northeastern - 0.13 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 1 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    156t. Omaha - 0.13 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 1 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    156t. RIT - 0.13 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 1 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    156t. St. Cloud State - 0.13 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 1 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    164t. Northwestern - 0.00 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    164t. St. Joseph's - 0.00 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    164t. Texas Tech - 0.00 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)



    TEXAS SCHOOLS

     
    1. Texas - 12.70 (14 Football, 3 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 27 Baseball)
    2. Houston - 2.48 (1 Football, 5 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    3. TCU - 1.69 (2 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 4 Baseball)
    4. SMU - 1.21 (2 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    5. Baylor - 1.16 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    6. Rice - 0.64 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    7t. Randolph Field - 0.42 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    7t. Texas A&M - 0.42 (1 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    9. UTEP - 0.37 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    10. Texas-Pan American - 0.21 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    11. Texas Tech - 0.00 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)



    BIG 12 SCHOOLS

     
    1. Oklahoma - 12.83 (24.75 Football, 5 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 3 Baseball)
    2. Texas - 12.70 (14 Football, 3 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 27 Baseball)
    3. Kansas - 5.55 (0 Football, 15 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    4. Oklahoma State - 5.40 (1 Football, 6 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 13 Baseball)
    5. TCU - 1.69 (2 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 4 Baseball)
    6. Kansas State - 1.48 (0 Football, 4 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    7. Baylor - 1.16 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 2 Baseball)
    8. West Virginia - 0.74 (0 Football, 2 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)
    9. Iowa State - 0.58 (0 Football, 1 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 1 Baseball)
    10. Texas Tech - 0.00 (0 Football, 0 Basketball, 0 Hockey, 0 Baseball)



    Oklahoma passed us this year. Time to stop slacking.

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  8. 21 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    It didn't even really inconvenience our fans in the past, so I was always on board.

    At the end of the day, it's a small price to pay for Big 12 tv contracts.

    There's plenty of time for them to make the decision to mirror in Iowa. I agree with the above poster that y'all should @ Del Conte on Twitter about it.

  9. 8 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

    Should've been co-mvp. They DO NOT win without the performance by this kid.

    That seems a little hyperbolic. Arkansas scored 4 runs and 3 runs in the other two CWS Finals games that he didn't start (recognizing that he appeared in relief in one of them). Oregon State scored 5 tonight. Odds are that Oregon State wins without Abel tonight.

    The reason he should be co-MVP is that he just had the greatest pitching performance in CWS history.

  10. Suppose a woman is at a certain period in her pregnancy that the baby if removed would be at a much greater risk of developing physical & neurological disorders that last into adulthood,  mental health problems, and the more immediately noticeable problems such as chronic lung disease.  It is also known that if she waited just a few more weeks to remove the baby that these risk factors would decrease significantly.  Do you think only allowing to remove the baby after a certain term when the risks are reduced and as a consequence having the woman potentially put up with a few weeks of inconvenience is not justified by drastically reducing the risks of a lifetime worth of serious health problems?  Or do you think it would be better to accommodate this woman's busy schedule and force the baby out whenever she damn well pleases and have the baby struggle for survival in incubators and if lucky go on to live a life of generally fucked up health?
    Yes, the woman would be able to have it removed when she wanted.

    So funny watching you get all emotional when you try to act like you operate only on logic at all times. You can't even stick to your shtick anymore.


  11. You keep asking me this question, but do not accept my opinion as my own. It's different because the pregnancy was not the mother did not have any control over getting pregnant. She should take Plan B and hope that she doesn't end up pregnant. If she does want to abort the baby, it should be done as soon as possible.
    Do you feel women should be forced to have a child that was the result of rape?


    I accept your opinion as your own, it's just that your opinion is absurd. You argue above that abortion is different because a human life is killed. Yet you are okay with a human life being killed if its father was a criminal. That is a morally reprehensible position.

    My personal position is outlined above in that I believe women should be able to have the fetus removed at any point. If it is able to live with medical assistance then that assistance should be provided at society's expense if necessary. When life truly begins seems impossible to answer to me.

    But your position is based purely on emotion. "Take responsibility, you can't kill a human life because you made a poor choice! Human life is valuable! Unless its dad is a rapist then kill away!" The position doesn't merely lack moral consistency, it is completely devoid of any moral, philosophical, or legal logic whatsoever. And that is a terrible way for a government to decide when it's appropriate to interfere in its citizen's decisions.
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  12. 36 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:

    I personally think that my child was a person and had rights when I saw the heartbeat. My children were conceived with the consent of both parents. I do not believe that people should use abortion as a way to get out of their poor choices. There are plenty of ways to avoid getting pregnant.  

    Ignoring for a moment that no form of birth control other than abstinence is 100% effective, I'm curious how many other medical procedures that help people avoid the consequences for poor choices you think should be illegal?

    Do you think that chemotherapy to treat lung cancer in lifelong smokers should be illegal? Do you think that it should be illegal for someone severely injured while street racing to receive medical care? There are of course a near infinite number of analogies.

    I'm going to assume that the answer to these questions is no. Mostly because if it's not then you're just a silly person and there's no point discussing it with you.

    The likeliest reason that the answer to those questions is no but the answer in the case of abortion is yes is because you feel that another human life is negatively affected by an abortion. So assuming that's the case I circle back to the question of why a child conceived via rape is not as important to you as a child conceived otherwise. Why does a child conceived by rape have less value as a life than others?

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  13. Personally, no. I have known people with down syndrome that live productive lives. 
    So you believe that the rights of the mother are more important than the rights of the fetus. A child conceived by rape has done nothing wrong, yet you think abortion should be allowed in that case. Why?
  14. For those who want to outlaw abortion, the solution I've always proposed is that a woman should be allowed to have a fetus removed from her body, but not killed, at any time. If medical technology can save the life of the fetus then the government can foot the bill.

    For some reason saving the life of the fetus gets less important when I propose that.

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  15. 5 minutes ago, udaydanceparty said:

    At some point between conception and it's 18th birthday it becomes a living human being with it's own rights.  Killing a human being is against the law and it should be.

    The argument really needs to be defining the point at which it's no longer a clump of cells and becomes a human.  Personally, I don't believe that point is at conception but I also don't think you suddenly become human upon passing through the birth canal.  I think most people share that view but I could be wrong.

     

     

    Viability is the best dividing line but the problem is that line will move depending on the medical technology available to the pregnant woman. So a woman with better insurance and medical coverage would have a pregnancy with a different viability date than a poor woman with no insurance or ability to pay. Now that would be a fun policy debate. [/sarcasm]

  16. 7 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

    If Plan B works why should abortion be an option? The fact is that about half of americans think that abortion is morally wrong. Likely most of them because they believe that an unborn life deserves rights. So arguing from the point of view that it doesn't deserve those rights doesn't do anything but show all you really care about is looking down on those who disagree with you.

    So do those people believe that a child merely conceived in the United States should be an American citizen, or is an unborn child deserving of rights only when it's convenient?

  17. 2 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

    "Those things are hard to manipulate."

    -FIFA

    Would never happen but I think fewest number of times your goalkeeper touched the ball (other than goal kicks) would be a great tiebreaker. It would also cut down on the number of times teams play the ball all the way backward to the keeper.

    Although now that I think about it, that would just create a comical battle of long balls into the box at the end of matches.

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  18. 11 minutes ago, udaydanceparty said:

    The president's critics have already become the exact same thing they accused the president's supporters of being.

    And I'm betting you're myopic enough to think that only goes one direction. You're as bad as any of the mouthbreathers on the left, so congrats I guess.

  19. 35 minutes ago, Theo Huxtable said:

    Is there a single evangelical christian in the world who isn't a racist and overall piece of shit human? As soon as I hear the words "evangelical christian", I immediately think of the Taliban. 

    Yes, there are many. Unfortunately they are the quiet ones and they need to be louder and make their voices heard.

    The family separation thing was a good start for them.

  20. If it's reversed then the following election will be amazing and protests/political gatherings will get violent.

    And then, as I've alluded to on another thread, the right will see that they've been underestimating a frothing voter base voting with their brain stems just like the left underestimated the same thing in 2016.

  21. 10 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

    This is the correct answer. 

    There are a significant amount of voters who are fiscally conservative and socially liberal who vote Republican. They would swing HARD to vote Democrat.

    Why would those people vote Republican? In what world is the GOP fiscally conservative? I'm not talking about campaign lies, I'm talking about reality.

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